Mad Dog
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Great Post mate.It's a basket case club that doesn't sack a manager who, having been given a top six budget (confirmed by TW himself), leads the club to it's worst run of form since an infamously bad season 20+ years ago and leaves it facing relegation and having to fight teams with a fraction of the budget. A run of form not even matched during the season we dropped down to the conference.
A game or two too far? Given the supposed ambition of the club, it isn't unfair to suggest that he was lucky to not be sacked at the end of last season after a desperately poor end to the season that many saw coming after not addressing obvious problems in the January window (problems that were highlighted by KR himself after the Blackpool play-off games and not addressed that summer). To not be sacked after we discovered by October that we weren't really any better than the likes of Morecambe and FGR was deeply concerning. To then let him get all the way to the end of Feb, all the while getting even worse, was just downright negligent and utter madness.
It's tiring reading opinions that suggest that this situation we're in has just magically appeared in the last 8 weeks or so and that nobody saw it coming. The team was in a slow decline after the Wycombe loss at Wembley until the end of last season, where we then fell off a cliff. We should have made the play-offs last season, and the only acceptable counter that KR could offer to make up for that was to start this season like a train. Yet we ended the summer window not even hitting the squad cap limit with multiple gaps to fill...
As a fan base we need to shift from the plucky little Oxford mentality that suggests we can't expect too much and should consider getting to a league one play off final as success. We should now be expecting and demanding the best given what we've been told by our esteemed board. They should have been ruthless long before this point and we're now paying for it.
Did he sign any of them or get lucky with what he inherited?
I think it makes a big difference if he signed them or not. I’m pretty sure KR could get a side playing well if he had Darling and Twine…You’ve still got to get them training, and playing together, and get the best out of them. He was very nearly a runner up last season. He was never going to keep Darling and Twine. A bit like us with McNally. We are both selling clubs! The difference was last summer KR got given a war chest. Manning didn’t have that luxury.
I’m pretty sure KR could get a side playing well if he had Darling and Twine…
It’s a BIG job, and it needs to be the right man for the job.
I don’t believe Manning is that man, but I’m not making the decision.
Right. Its a no from meYou’ve still got to get them training, and playing together, and get the best out of them. He was very nearly a runner up last season. He was never going to keep Darling and Twine. A bit like us with McNally. We are both selling clubs! The difference was last summer KR got given a war chest. Manning didn’t have that luxury.
I haven't read that many opinions saying this has come out of the blue over the last 8 weeks so not sure where you are reading them all? In the summer there was a spectrum of views with one end demanding he be sacked then and there, the other end of the spectrum was a few people saying everything was fine and dandy. The majority in my view, including myself, raised real questions about the transfer policy and squad balance as we could see it had really not gone to plan (or even if there was a plan) but were also prepared to give some time to put it right.It's a basket case club that doesn't sack a manager who, having been given a top six budget (confirmed by TW himself), leads the club to it's worst run of form since an infamously bad season 20+ years ago and leaves it facing relegation and having to fight teams with a fraction of the budget. A run of form not even matched during the season we dropped down to the conference.
A game or two too far? Given the supposed ambition of the club, it isn't unfair to suggest that he was lucky to not be sacked at the end of last season after a desperately poor end to the season that many saw coming after not addressing obvious problems in the January window (problems that were highlighted by KR himself after the Blackpool play-off games and not addressed that summer). To not be sacked after we discovered by October that we weren't really any better than the likes of Morecambe and FGR was deeply concerning. To then let him get all the way to the end of Feb, all the while getting even worse, was just downright negligent and utter madness.
It's tiring reading opinions that suggest that this situation we're in has just magically appeared in the last 8 weeks or so and that nobody saw it coming. The team was in a slow decline after the Wycombe loss at Wembley until the end of last season, where we then fell off a cliff. We should have made the play-offs last season, and the only acceptable counter that KR could offer to make up for that was to start this season like a train. Yet we ended the summer window not even hitting the squad cap limit with multiple gaps to fill...
As a fan base we need to shift from the plucky little Oxford mentality that suggests we can't expect too much and should consider getting to a league one play off final as success. We should now be expecting and demanding the best given what we've been told by our esteemed board. They should have been ruthless long before this point and we're now paying for it.
Right. Its a no from me
Along with the fact he’s been proved right to take that decision after all the health problems he suffered.I'm not advocating Appleton, but let's have some perspective here. You are on £200k a year managing Oxford and then offered £500k as an assistant in a premiership side. Of course, we would all select Oxford, wouldn't we........
Most of us in this situation would take the logical decision that looks after our families and ourselves, making us sensible human beings rather than the emotive 'judas' you are implying!
Imagine if he took us down and mk stayed up instead....I don’t understand how Manning is in the running at all. Of the realistic candidates listed he’d be a distant last for me…
I know what you're saying but I don't think any new manager will have "taken us down" if we are relegated. IMO, they'll have failed to save us but KR and his team will have taken us down.Imagine if he took us down and mk stayed up instead....
.... please return to the library agent Manning, your job is done
Totally agree.My point really is that the majority are not voting for MAPP. Somebody was suggesting that there was a big movement on here behind MAPPThe next highest has 15% - less than half. That’s pretty overwhelming
Williams is like the geeky rich kid who all the popular kids let hang around with them, so that they can go in his swimming pool at the weekend.Quite a few people knew there were serious issues behind the scenes at the club for some time but I had hoped that when TW came in he would establish the cause and do something about it
Instead him and KR became as thick as thieves
It was depressing to see
How do you know that.? What proof do you have?.....and who are these "quite a few people"?Quite a few people knew there were serious issues behind the scenes at the club for some time but I had hoped that when TW came in he would establish the cause and do something about it
Instead him and KR became as thick as thieves
It was depressing to see
Rightly or wrongly, this is where we‘re heading.
And also not very alive.
But still better than KR.