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[Peterdev]

If we finish 20th I’ll be happy. I know today was a better performance but with the chances created we should win games like that.
Derby must be looking forward to adding to their goals total whilst condemning us to a record breaking bad run.
I honestly can’t see us winning in the next few weeks.
We’re in the relegation fight of our lives and we don’t look up for it.
No wonder we’re having difficulty recruiting a manager and assistant

 

[Ewes]

Welsh mate of mine has suggested Garry Monk is interested in the role.

 

[tatabanya]

If we finish 20th I’ll be happy. I know today was a better performance but with the chances created we should win games like that.
Derby must be looking forward to adding to their goals total whilst condemning us to a record breaking bad run.
I honestly can’t see us winning in the next few weeks.
We’re in the relegation fight of our lives and we don’t look up for it.
No wonder we’re having difficulty recruiting a manager and assistant

We’re having no difficulty hiring a manager. Why say things like this?

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Lennon's odds are worryingly short.

 

[Wandering Yellow]

Let's hope for an appointment sooner rather than later.

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I can not understand why there was anyone sympathetic toward KR after he was sacked. The guy totally gutted and dismantled our football club into this sorry state.

 

[Chippy]

Flattered to deceive at Lincoln? He got to a play off final?

To be fair before MAPP took over Lincoln, the Cowley’s had taken them from the Conference to League One in 3 seasons, including the League 2 play offs in the season in between, in their first season back in the EFL. As a conference side the Cowleys also took Lincoln to the FA Cup quarter finals, the first non-league team in over 100 years to achieve this.

MAPP basically continued the fantastic work and results the Cowleys had already achieved with part of the squad they had assembled. He did do well there for a season, but once some of that elite squad departed then the results went downhill. The Cowley‘s achieved way more at Lincoln than MAPP, yet everyone keeps on about MAPP‘s one great season there.

Yes the Cowleys were unsuccessful at Huddersfield but the team they took on were not their players and they only had a Jan transfer window given to them and never got the chance to build. At Pompey they had a 43% winning record but overall failed to achieve the results required and Mous is now doing well with the Cowleys squad. I wish he was still at OUFC!

I‘m not suggesting the Cowleys be given the job here, but I’m sure with time they‘d do a decent job, and overall their achievements exceed MAPP’s. I don’t buy into the hype that because MAPP was a success here once he’s bound to do it again, that’s just nonsense, though I’m not saying he wouldn’t do well. He’d clearly have a lot of instant support but the wider picture needs to be considered rather than just potential euphoria for next Saturday.

 

[Belgium Yellow]

Welsh mate of mine has suggested Garry Monk is interested in the role.

Played for us and had a public spat with Pep Clotet - that's two things in his favour.

 

[Ewes]

Assuming the rumoured interviewees are correct, have you a preference? If so, who and why?

I’d personally not welcome any of those named on here or bookies’ websites. I believe we need a hatchet man on a contract to the end of the season only: to secure Lge1 football at any cost, to sort out the players we should retain/pay off/release for next season, sort out a decent pre-season schedule which properly gets our players ready to earn points from the first game of next season, and then leave with a big bonus for having done so. Paving the way for a progressive coach being in place next season.

I can think of a couple of head coaches I’d like here next season but I’m afraid I can’t see anyone with the magic touch to be able to do the stuff needed ahead of that. A couple of months ago I’d have suggested Big Duncan Ferguson would be a good stop-gap manager but his first 7-8 games at FGR haven’t gone well.

 

[uptheus]

I don’t want MApp back, I think it will end in his quick departure and sour his previous time with us.

I looked at how he did at Leicester, when he and Shakespeare (I think it was) presided over dour football. He flattered to deceive at Lincoln and obviously didn’t do much at Blackpool. For me, and I’m speculating here, I wonder if his illness played a part in him dropping from being a sought after manager for clubs ‘with a project’ to basket case clubs (like us, currently) being linked with him.

I’d love to be proved wrong though but I just can’t see it working out for him here.

And the same can be said about any other contenders! There’s no guarantees, but we know Appleton can build a balanced, entertaining promotion contending squad.

I’d have him in a heart best, then I guess you could go for McCann who failed a number of seasons at Peterborough with good financial backing. Yes, he did well at Hull when dropping out of the Championship and having virtually the same squad, plus the parachute monies!!

If Appleton’s prepared to take the risk in his legacy, then I sure am.

Come on home Michael, you’ve got some unfinished business to attend to.

 

[Foley]

If we finish 20th I’ll be happy. I know today was a better performance but with the chances created we should win games like that.
Derby must be looking forward to adding to their goals total whilst condemning us to a record breaking bad run.
I honestly can’t see us winning in the next few weeks.
We’re in the relegation fight of our lives and we don’t look up for it.
No wonder we’re having difficulty recruiting a manager and assistant

Strange comments.
I suspect that we will have no problem recruiting a manager

 

[Ewes]

I can not understand why there was anyone sympathetic toward KR after he was sacked. The guy totally gutted and dismantled our football club into this sorry state.

On balance, I feel he had 3 1/2 good years here, compared to a poor 18mths. It’s right he left and should’ve done earlier, but I think history will remind us that he was generally good for the club, serving us well without actually winning anything.

 

[uptheus]

Well, Robinson did that with us too. (Which I thought was a fine achievement tbh, but many seem to disagree.)

And yet he went backwards when having a top 6 budget.

 

[Sharp Edges]

On balance, I feel he had 3 1/2 good years here, compared to a poor 18mths. It’s right he left and should’ve done earlier, but I think history will remind us that he was generally good for the club, serving us well without actually winning anything.

After 5 years he left us in a worse place in every way I can think of, history will not change that.

 

[werthersoriginal]

I'd take that!

Yeah what’s everyone quacking about? And Wycombe miss out!!

 

[Joey]

On balance, I feel he had 3 1/2 good years here, compared to a poor 18mths. It’s right he left and should’ve done earlier, but I think history will remind us that he was generally good for the club, serving us well without actually winning anything.

Hard disagree with this. We played some nice football for a large part of his time here but never moved the club forwards with a promotion. The budget has increased a lot since he started and yet we've got a worse squad than he inherited plus the backroom staff has been absolutely gutted under his watch making it far harder to replace them.

He's had a better opportunity than pretty much any other manager we've had and he's absolutely screwed us, potentially taking us down this season and if not setting us back a couple of years at least. That's his legacy.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

If we go down this season then that will be Karl Robinson’s legacy.

 

[Swaby39]

To be fair before MAPP took over Lincoln, the Cowley’s had taken them from the Conference to League One in 3 seasons, including the League 2 play offs in the season in between, in their first season back in the EFL. As a conference side the Cowleys also took Lincoln to the FA Cup quarter finals, the first non-league team in over 100 years to achieve this.

MAPP basically continued the fantastic work and results the Cowleys had already achieved with part of the squad they had assembled. He did do well there for a season, but once some of that elite squad departed then the results went downhill. The Cowley‘s achieved way more at Lincoln than MAPP, yet everyone keeps on about MAPP‘s one great season there.

Yes the Cowleys were unsuccessful at Huddersfield but the team they took on were not their players and they only had a Jan transfer window given to them and never got the chance to build. At Pompey they had a 43% winning record but overall failed to achieve the results required and Mous is now doing well with the Cowleys squad. I wish he was still at OUFC!

I‘m not suggesting the Cowleys be given the job here, but I’m sure with time they‘d do a decent job, and overall their achievements exceed MAPP’s. I don’t buy into the hype that because MAPP was a success here once he’s bound to do it again, that’s just nonsense, though I’m not saying he wouldn’t do well. He’d clearly have a lot of instant support but the wider picture needs to be considered rather than just potential euphoria for next Saturday.

I dispute that slightly in that it’s not like the cowley’s played 40 games of that season and he took over for the run-in. He still assembled that team every week to achieve what it did over a season, including navigate a play off semi final.

Sure, it’s always nice to join a club in a decent footing but you could also credit him for being selected for that role and carrying them on that upward trajectory.

Fully accept what you’re saying and I acknowledge the differences between that job he took at Lincoln and the one he may face here. But I’m not sure we, of all clubs, should be discrediting anyone for achieving what we have managed only once in 5 years with far greater resource.

 

[Jonny G]

I don’t want MApp back, I think it will end in his quick departure and sour his previous time with us.

I looked at how he did at Leicester, when he and Shakespeare (I think it was) presided over dour football. He flattered to deceive at Lincoln and obviously didn’t do much at Blackpool. For me, and I’m speculating here, I wonder if his illness played a part in him dropping from being a sought after manager for clubs ‘with a project’ to basket case clubs (like us, currently) being linked with him.

I’d love to be proved wrong though but I just can’t see it working out for him here.

Lincoln City haven't been in the second tier since 1959. Mapp got them to within one game of it in a league that included Hull, Sunderland, Charlton, Portsmouth and Ipswich. He kept them up in 2019/20, got 21 players out in the summer and brought in 12 new signings and 6 on loan, so it was "his" squad that got them in to the top six that season. I have no idea what their budget was, but would be amazed if at least 10 clubs (Blackpool, Charlton, Fleetwood, Hull, Ipswich, us, Peterborough, Plymouth, Pompey and Sunderland) didn't have bigger budgets.
I'd have him back on his time here alone - the thing about certain managers suiting certain clubs (Ferguson and Posh; Coleman and Accrington etc.) but he did a bloody good job at Lincoln and did about level par with budget at Blackpool. By all means disagree and suggest someone totally new (preferably McCann or Manning to Fowler, or Lennon!) but we don't need to make out that he turned in to David Kemp after summer 2017!

EDIT - Cowley(s) left Lincoln in early Sept after taking 12 points from seven games, so "kept them up" above is actually not true. However, MAPP did fairly comfortably keep them out of relegation danger whilst changing style of play from a decent start under Cowley(s).

 

[06russ]

If we go down this season then that will be Karl Robinson’s legacy.

Pretty much agree. If we stay up he may be remembered a bit more fondly by some. If we go down I think he’ll be remembered for pretty much that alone.

 

[SirAndyOfCrosby]

I dispute that slightly in that it’s not like the cowley’s played 40 games of that season and he took over for the run-in. He still assembled that team every week to achieve what it did over a season, including navigate a play off semi final.

Sure, it’s always nice to join a club in a decent footing but you could also credit him for being selected for that role and carrying them on that upward trajectory.

And yet Manning is being disregarded by many on here for doing exactly what you have just described.