National News Boris Johnson - Ousted Former PM

[SteMerritt]

Do you think people would?

Some of them are still whining about a democratic vote...

I'm sure the extreme left would carry on, but most of us don't fall into that group.

 

[ECYellow]

Boris Johnson's having a party
Bring your camembert and your chardonnay

 

[Sheik djibouti]

We are back to 'it wasn't a meeting' then, but a gathering, which was banned. If it was a government meeting, it wouldn't have people not involved with what was being discussed.

Not hard really is it Why they just don't say 'sorry, we fucked up a bit there' and we can all move on?

Because there seems to be a Tory mindset that being wrong about anything is a sign of weakness

So they opt to deflect and squirm because they fear the consequences of doing the very thing that everyone (apart from their staunchest supporters it would seem) thinks they ought to do. They are s**t scared that they will be seen as laughing at all the people who have made sacrifices and trampling on the memory of those that have made the ultimate sacrifice.

They know they have royally screwed this up and that it has created an utterly toxic atmosphere towards them. And that is on top of everything else they have royally screwed up already.

And there is more to come. . . . .we are told

Very few it seems believe a word they say any more and the pedantry over the minutae of interpretation just makes them look even more out of touch.

 

[QR]

Actually they weren't married at the time of this gathering. Minor FACT.

She is his wife - context - they are married. FACT.

Ah! You struggle with the concept of time. It explains so so much.

Edit: I think this is your 'No Dougall, the cows are further away' moment.

 

[Wallop]

Because there seems to be a Tory mindset that being wrong about anything is a sign of weakness

So they opt to deflect and squirm because they fear the consequences of doing the very thing that everyone (apart from their staunchest supporters it would seem) thinks they ought to do. They are s**t scared that they will be seen as laughing at all the people who have made sacrifices and trampling on the memory of those that have made the ultimate sacrifice.

They know they have royally screwed this up and that it has created an utterly toxic atmosphere towards them. And that is on top of everything else they have royally screwed up already.

And there is more to come. . . . .we are told

Very few it seems believe a word they say any more and the pedantry over the minutae of interpretation just makes them look even more out of touch.

Quite - they’re as popular as those lovely lawyers who use the same tactics.

 

[Marked Ox]

Do you think people would?

Some of them are still whining about a democratic vote...

Not now the Govt have made it a massive issue by their repeated response to it.

 

[Eaststanding]

Quite - they’re as popular as those lovely lawyers who use the same tactics.

Which ‘lovely lawyers’ would they be @Wallop

 

[Wallop]

Which ‘lovely lawyers’ would they be @Wallop

I was being sarcastic.

 

[Eaststanding]

I was being sarcastic.

I get that, I was looking for examples to support the sarcastic comment

 

[Essexyellows]

Actually they weren't married at the time of this gathering. Minor FACT.

We are talking about it now and, at this moment in time, she is his wife....... context, facts, grist to the mill......

 

[m]

We are talking about it now and, at this moment in time, she is his wife....... context, facts, grist to the mill......

You're right.

If I ever find myself on a shoplifting charge I will simply purchase said item from another boutique and then present it to the judge and remind him to consider the context and facts.

 

[Essexyellows]

You're right.

If I ever find myself on a shoplifting charge I will simply purchase said item from another boutique and then present it to the judge and remind him to consider the context and facts.

I know.

The best you could hope for is being described as either an alleged shoplifter (charged) or a convicted shoplifter (found guilty).

Just say "Sorry" covers anything these days...

 

[Wallop]

I get that, I was looking for examples to support the sarcastic comment

I searched on 'Lawyers good deeds' - there aren't many results

 

[Eaststanding]

I searched on 'Lawyers good deeds' - there aren't many results

Some very broad generalisation there I’d say, perhaps you haven’t met the right one yet..

 

[chuckbert]

Just say "Sorry" covers anything these days...

In which case it would be refreshing to see the government saying it for once.

It’s not the infringement that is frothing people up, it is the hypocrisy.

 

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Snowflake lib-tard socialist darts fans making their views on the PM heard at Ally Pally

 

[QR]

At PMQs yesterday Johnson said the government's warm home discount was £140 a week. In fact, he said it twice! It isn't, it's £140 a year!!

In this instance I don't know if Johnson was

a) an unashamed, bare faced liar
b) so incompetent it was a genuine mistake, twice! or
c) had been told £140 per annum but simply could not believe it and, because he is so far detached from other people's daily financial reality he thought it must be £140 per week.

Which is it?

 

[38yearsofpain]

At PMQs yesterday Johnson said the government's warm home discount was £140 a week. In fact, he said it twice! It isn't, it's £140 a year!!

In this instance I don't know if Johnson was

a) an unashamed, bare faced liar
b) so incompetent it was a genuine mistake, twice! or
c) had been told £140 per annum but simply could not believe it and, because he is so far detached from other people's daily financial reality he thought it must be £140 per week.

Which is it?

All 3 are correct.

 

[Sheik djibouti]

At PMQs yesterday Johnson said the government's warm home discount was £140 a week. In fact, he said it twice! It isn't, it's £140 a year!!

In this instance I don't know if Johnson was

a) an unashamed, bare faced liar
b) so incompetent it was a genuine mistake, twice! or
c) had been told £140 per annum but simply could not believe it and, because he is so far detached from other people's daily financial reality he thought it must be £140 per week.

Which is it?

I'd give him the benefit of the doubt here and call it a mistake (his incompetence isn't in question, surely?).

I think the reality is he couldn't give a s**t either way as it will never be an issue for the likes of him. I mean can you imagine him ever having to make a heat or eat decision?

After all, he's more familiar with weighing up the pros and cons of £800 a roll wallpaper

 

[Big Ron]

At PMQs yesterday Johnson said the government's warm home discount was £140 a week. In fact, he said it twice! It isn't, it's £140 a year!!

In this instance I don't know if Johnson was

a) an unashamed, bare faced liar
b) so incompetent it was a genuine mistake, twice! or
c) had been told £140 per annum but simply could not believe it and, because he is so far detached from other people's daily financial reality he thought it must be £140 per week.

Which is it?

Yesterday's PMQs was Johnson at his worst - lying and if you're being incredibly generous, shockingly ill-informed. The heating allowance was one thing followed by denying comments made about inflation and various claims that Labour would have forced a lockdown (Labour backed Plan B at leadership level), would nationalise the gas industry and force another EU referendum. All lies and followed by the heating VAT debacle.

Angela Rayner is generally very good in PMQs and put in another good performance yesterday