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So if Boris was to quit tomorrow what would happen next?

Firstly, a deputy would have to step in, most likely Dominic Raaaaaab, but he showed very little prowess in the job when Boris was in hospital and is lumbered with BJ by association, so would probably hold no more, and possibly, remarkably, even less authority in the role than Boris.

Meanwhile, prospective candidates to take over, such as Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Foreign Secretary Liz Truss would inevitably have to spend some if not all of their time preparing their leadership campaigns, which shouldn't be a problem given there's nothing else really happening in their spheres to focus on. I mean it's not like there is y potential military conflict or debt mountain to deal with is there?

Then we'll have the leadership election itself, with the campaigning kicking in, TV debates, more mud-slinging and 73 rounds of voting over a period of 2-3 months before a new leader is finally elected.

They will then take a couple more weeks to finalise a new cabinet with the winner needing to be replaced in their old role and potentially one or more other leading players stepping away.

Having established their team, they will then have to set out a new (post Boris) direction to get the party, first, then the public on board, and try to convince them, that things are going to be different now.

This will inevitably not work as too many in and around Westminster will either naturally disagree, or will do so in order to further their own ambitions.

Eventually, the new PM will have enough of this infighting, and (with a public who will be screaming about the newcomer as not having a mandate) have to go to the country 'to move forward'.

Thus, everything grinds to a halt while the battle buses are wheeled out, the labour party suddenly have to think up some policies of their own, red wall Tories start promising all kinds of guff to cling on to their seats, Cummings (having manipulated the vote to get the leader he wants) dusts off his Labour folder and starts drip feeding all the scandal he's been saving up from that side of the house for years, the Scots and the Irish start demanding all kinds of things or they'll take their ball home, and Nigel farage will return with another oddly named party that stands for nothing concrete but allows him to blabber on with all to great regularity.

We will then be left with either a Tory govt with too small a majority to do anything significantly different, a coalition (probably constructed using all kinds of unkeepable promises) even less effective than the last one, a hung parliament meaning we have to do it all again, or a labour government, elected pretty much by default but still riddled with division and indecision that will soon remind everybody why they didn't want them at the previous three elections.

And thus it continues..... with new cabinets to build, new compromises to make, new promises to forget, and all the while nothing useful ever actually getting done.....
 
You wouldn't have any TV Debates, they wouldn't be needed as we (the public) won't be having a say.
 
All true - and quite depressingly so.

Of course, the alternative is to leave in place a PM who seems to treat lying to the house, misusing stats from the ONS (they keep having to write to him to ask him to retract what he has said), trying to protect his MP mates who have taken money for things they shouldn't have, casting unfounded aspersions on other politicians etc as perfectly fine.
 
So if Boris was to quit tomorrow what would happen next?

Firstly, a deputy would have to step in, most likely Dominic Raaaaaab, but he showed very little prowess in the job when Boris was in hospital and is lumbered with BJ by association, so would probably hold no more, and possibly, remarkably, even less authority in the role than Boris.

Meanwhile, prospective candidates to take over, such as Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Foreign Secretary Liz Truss would inevitably have to spend some if not all of their time preparing their leadership campaigns, which shouldn't be a problem given there's nothing else really happening in their spheres to focus on. I mean it's not like there is y potential military conflict or debt mountain to deal with is there?

Then we'll have the leadership election itself, with the campaigning kicking in, TV debates, more mud-slinging and 73 rounds of voting over a period of 2-3 months before a new leader is finally elected.

They will then take a couple more weeks to finalise a new cabinet with the winner needing to be replaced in their old role and potentially one or more other leading players stepping away.

Having established their team, they will then have to set out a new (post Boris) direction to get the party, first, then the public on board, and try to convince them, that things are going to be different now.

This will inevitably not work as too many in and around Westminster will either naturally disagree, or will do so in order to further their own ambitions.

Eventually, the new PM will have enough of this infighting, and (with a public who will be screaming about the newcomer as not having a mandate) have to go to the country 'to move forward'.

Thus, everything grinds to a halt while the battle buses are wheeled out, the labour party suddenly have to think up some policies of their own, red wall Tories start promising all kinds of guff to cling on to their seats, Cummings (having manipulated the vote to get the leader he wants) dusts off his Labour folder and starts drip feeding all the scandal he's been saving up from that side of the house for years, the Scots and the Irish start demanding all kinds of things or they'll take their ball home, and Nigel farage will return with another oddly named party that stands for nothing concrete but allows him to blabber on with all to great regularity.

We will then be left with either a Tory govt with too small a majority to do anything significantly different, a coalition (probably constructed using all kinds of unkeepable promises) even less effective than the last one, a hung parliament meaning we have to do it all again, or a labour government, elected pretty much by default but still riddled with division and indecision that will soon remind everybody why they didn't want them at the previous three elections.

And thus it continues..... with new cabinets to build, new compromises to make, new promises to forget, and all the while nothing useful ever actually getting done.....
Hey, that's democracy. Overrated eh.
 
Or, we could have PR, and a coalition of like-minded parties who have to work together and compromise to find a solution which represents the will of the majority of the population, rather than the insane FPTP undemocratic nonsense which we currently put up with
That'll be the day!
 
So if Boris was to quit tomorrow what would happen next?
The earth would stop turning, stars would fall from the sky and hell would freeze over.

You heard it here first.....
 
So if Boris was to quit tomorrow what would happen next?

Firstly, a deputy would have to step in, most likely Dominic Raaaaaab, but he showed very little prowess in the job when Boris was in hospital and is lumbered with BJ by association, so would probably hold no more, and possibly, remarkably, even less authority in the role than Boris.

Meanwhile, prospective candidates to take over, such as Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Foreign Secretary Liz Truss would inevitably have to spend some if not all of their time preparing their leadership campaigns, which shouldn't be a problem given there's nothing else really happening in their spheres to focus on. I mean it's not like there is y potential military conflict or debt mountain to deal with is there?

Then we'll have the leadership election itself, with the campaigning kicking in, TV debates, more mud-slinging and 73 rounds of voting over a period of 2-3 months before a new leader is finally elected.

They will then take a couple more weeks to finalise a new cabinet with the winner needing to be replaced in their old role and potentially one or more other leading players stepping away.

Having established their team, they will then have to set out a new (post Boris) direction to get the party, first, then the public on board, and try to convince them, that things are going to be different now.

This will inevitably not work as too many in and around Westminster will either naturally disagree, or will do so in order to further their own ambitions.

Eventually, the new PM will have enough of this infighting, and (with a public who will be screaming about the newcomer as not having a mandate) have to go to the country 'to move forward'.

Thus, everything grinds to a halt while the battle buses are wheeled out, the labour party suddenly have to think up some policies of their own, red wall Tories start promising all kinds of guff to cling on to their seats, Cummings (having manipulated the vote to get the leader he wants) dusts off his Labour folder and starts drip feeding all the scandal he's been saving up from that side of the house for years, the Scots and the Irish start demanding all kinds of things or they'll take their ball home, and Nigel farage will return with another oddly named party that stands for nothing concrete but allows him to blabber on with all to great regularity.

We will then be left with either a Tory govt with too small a majority to do anything significantly different, a coalition (probably constructed using all kinds of unkeepable promises) even less effective than the last one, a hung parliament meaning we have to do it all again, or a labour government, elected pretty much by default but still riddled with division and indecision that will soon remind everybody why they didn't want them at the previous three elections.

And thus it continues..... with new cabinets to build, new compromises to make, new promises to forget, and all the while nothing useful ever actually getting done.....
Yeah better stick with Karl even though he should have signed a left back.
 
Labour and Conservatives should fragment into their many factions. Neither are geared up to challenges of 21st century politics.
The old Labour battlegrounds of large communities built around industry are gone. Modernising to globalisation has meant moving to the right, and leaving many of their voters behind and does little for their communities.
Then putting social injustice front and centre of their policies doesn’t address the problems faced by the majority of voters outside the big cities.

The Conservatives moved from the traditional way things always were, to exploiting globalisation. Again, to the benefit of the few. And once the public rebelled against globalisation (Brexit) they have been reduced to an Orwellian level of lies and misinformation.

Both Parties are screwed in their current form.
 
So if Boris was to quit tomorrow what would happen next?

Firstly, a deputy would have to step in, most likely Dominic Raaaaaab, but he showed very little prowess in the job when Boris was in hospital and is lumbered with BJ by association, so would probably hold no more, and possibly, remarkably, even less authority in the role than Boris.

Meanwhile, prospective candidates to take over, such as Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Foreign Secretary Liz Truss would inevitably have to spend some if not all of their time preparing their leadership campaigns, which shouldn't be a problem given there's nothing else really happening in their spheres to focus on. I mean it's not like there is y potential military conflict or debt mountain to deal with is there?

Then we'll have the leadership election itself, with the campaigning kicking in, TV debates, more mud-slinging and 73 rounds of voting over a period of 2-3 months before a new leader is finally elected.

They will then take a couple more weeks to finalise a new cabinet with the winner needing to be replaced in their old role and potentially one or more other leading players stepping away.

Having established their team, they will then have to set out a new (post Boris) direction to get the party, first, then the public on board, and try to convince them, that things are going to be different now.

This will inevitably not work as too many in and around Westminster will either naturally disagree, or will do so in order to further their own ambitions.

Eventually, the new PM will have enough of this infighting, and (with a public who will be screaming about the newcomer as not having a mandate) have to go to the country 'to move forward'.

Thus, everything grinds to a halt while the battle buses are wheeled out, the labour party suddenly have to think up some policies of their own, red wall Tories start promising all kinds of guff to cling on to their seats, Cummings (having manipulated the vote to get the leader he wants) dusts off his Labour folder and starts drip feeding all the scandal he's been saving up from that side of the house for years, the Scots and the Irish start demanding all kinds of things or they'll take their ball home, and Nigel farage will return with another oddly named party that stands for nothing concrete but allows him to blabber on with all to great regularity.

We will then be left with either a Tory govt with too small a majority to do anything significantly different, a coalition (probably constructed using all kinds of unkeepable promises) even less effective than the last one, a hung parliament meaning we have to do it all again, or a labour government, elected pretty much by default but still riddled with division and indecision that will soon remind everybody why they didn't want them at the previous three elections.

And thus it continues..... with new cabinets to build, new compromises to make, new promises to forget, and all the while nothing useful ever actually getting done.....

Sounds about right.

But at-least if Labour get in we will remove all the sleaze, VAT will be removed from fuel costs, NMW will increase to £12 p/h, unemployment will vanish, the working week will be reduced to 4 days, productivity will soar, taxes for the majority will fall, spending on all public services will be hugely ramped up, all health care and NHS issues will be resolved, waiting lists will vanish. food banks will vanish, the cost of fuel will fall and debt will not increase.

Looking forward to it 😳
 
Sounds about right.

But at-least if Labour get in we will remove all the sleaze, VAT will be removed from fuel costs, NMW will increase to £12 p/h, unemployment will vanish, the working week will be reduced to 4 days, productivity will soar, taxes for the majority will fall, spending on all public services will be hugely ramped up, all health care and NHS issues will be resolved, waiting lists will vanish. food banks will vanish, the cost of fuel will fall and debt will not increase.

Looking forward to it 😳
So Labour DO have some policies then......


Interesting:unsure:
 
Sounds about right.

But at-least if Labour get in we will remove all the sleaze, VAT will be removed from fuel costs, NMW will increase to £12 p/h, unemployment will vanish, the working week will be reduced to 4 days, productivity will soar, taxes for the majority will fall, spending on all public services will be hugely ramped up, all health care and NHS issues will be resolved, waiting lists will vanish. food banks will vanish, the cost of fuel will fall and debt will not increase.

Looking forward to it 😳
And when the Tories are in opposition neither they nor their supporters will claim that they’d do any better than the current government, and will instead insist that any problems would be similar under them 🤔🤔🤔
 
And when the Tories are in opposition neither they nor their supporters will claim that they’d do any better than the current government, and will instead insist that any problems would be similar under them 🤔🤔🤔

Exactly this……but nothing will ever change of any real note.
 
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All assuming he is going.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he stays until the next election which could be 2023 if the rumours are correct.
I can’t imagine he’d go for a full five year term as that would be another Christmas election.
My bet is it will be in June 2024.
Have to say that there are not many viable alternatives as a leader. Truss and Sunak are tainted choices
 
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