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Pre the current Conservative incumbent wasn’t it a Labour MP in Grimsby? If things were going so badly under Labour why wouldn’t they have voted to change that? Why would they go straight back to the party that ignored places like Grimsby to court the metropolitan and student vote?

Labour lost a lot of votes in poorer areas because they took the P**s and thought they were always going to get voted in, not certain it’s stupid of the electorate to tell them where to go, keeping on voting for them certainly wasn’t working.
What 'took the P**s' like investing in the NHS and schools (the public sector is a significant employer in such places that offers well paid and previously secure jobs) . Give yer head a wobble.
 
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There are clearly many politicians who are beneath contempt. Currently most of those are Tories because Labour, Lib Dems and others are staying below the parapet as they realise starting quiet is the best way to ensure a non-Tory government next time around.

I have particular local contempt for Lia Nici, Tory MP for Great Grimsby. Yes, Great Grimsby, once the world's leading fishing port but left to flounder and decline by successive governments. So the usual ardent Labour adherents in this town decided on a change 'for the better' and welcomed Nia.

Despite her promises, the port continues to decline. Youngs have just announced the closure of another fish processing plant. Grimsby relies on processing of imported Icelandic fish nowadays since its own fleet disappeared.

Nia helpfully suggested that the 285 people to be laid off should 'look for other opportunities and re-train'. I can only assume Nia rarely visits Grimsby or understands it's plight.

Still, never mind, even as the Tories flutter from power next time NIa will probably retain her seat and her salary because the locals will still believe she will somehow turn things around. There appears to be nowt as stupid as the British electorate.
@Pete Burrett - there is a separate thread for fish related puns!
 
Yes Austin Mitchell was Labour MP for Grimsby for decades, followed by Melanie Onn 2015-2019. No party in recent history has had a cogent plan to revive Grimsby. Labour relied on the working class to keep voting them in. That was stupid, arguably.

Vox pop around 2019 suggested voters just wanted change. Change, any change. I don't recall any deep-thinking being expressed. Fact is, that change hasn't worked. Lia Nici may well get voted in again. That will also be stupid.
And that's why the liar in chief won the election in 2019 on his get Brexit done "promise".

Many could see it was utter hogwash akin to that promoted by the leave campaign, but enough people "hoped" that Boris could pull it off.
As @Pete Burrett said up the thread and as that vote proved, there really is nowt so stupid as the British electorate.

I mean...fancy believing that firstly Boris might be telling the truth and secondly, that he would actually ever deliver anything.
 
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Well this report on JRM, Dorries, Patel etc etc trying to undermine the privileges committee is a shock.......

 
Well this report on JRM, Dorries, Patel etc etc trying to undermine the privileges committee is a shock.......

Can honestly say I haven't been so shocked since they called Boris a liar. No siree...didn't see that coming at all . . . .

Said nobody.....ever.
 
It's the same little gang of Johnson sycophants: most of whom are no longer in powerful positions, but are still likely to be tainted by association unless they double down and try to persuade everyone that there really was nothing to see here. Slightly pathetic and certainly laughable (much like the orange one's protestations over the pond).

Has Dorries actually managed to resign as an MP yet with immediate effect? ;)
 
It's the same little gang of Johnson sycophants: most of whom are no longer in powerful positions, but are still likely to be tainted by association unless they double down and try to persuade everyone that there really was nothing to see here. Slightly pathetic and certainly laughable (much like the orange one's protestations over the pond).

Has Dorries actually managed to resign as an MP yet with immediate effect? ;)

Goldsmith is still a Govt Minister. Even the Head of ConservativeHome has said Sunak should sack him after this report.
 
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It then raises the question as to whether sitting MPs should be allowed to host TV/radio shows?

As a guest on any programme, anyone is free to give their opinion and face any comeback based on that.

But as host there is the grey area between what is their personal opinion and what is being presented as fact. Then there is also consideration that some of what is being said is done to prompt or draw out a guest, or is indeed a company/station based opinion/stance.

Noone should be prevented from giving their opinion, whether in conversation or through the media, but perhaps there needs to be restrictions on the position from which those views are given
 
It then raises the question as to whether sitting MPs should be allowed to host TV/radio shows?

As a guest on any programme, anyone is free to give their opinion and face any comeback based on that.

But as host there is the grey area between what is their personal opinion and what is being presented as fact. Then there is also consideration that some of what is being said is done to prompt or draw out a guest, or is indeed a company/station based opinion/stance.

Noone should be prevented from giving their opinion, whether in conversation or through the media, but perhaps there needs to be restrictions on the position from which those views are given

I don't think this is about preventing free speech, it is about challenging what was a concerted and purposeful attempt at undermining the Committee and its members by Johnson's allies. There are suggestions that Tory committee members were pressured/intimidated over their contribution by those covered by the report such as public attacks on Bernard Jenkin. On top, Nadine Dorries (she who has resigned but hasn't, sod her constituents) for instance called the Tory MPs who vote for the report as being Tories in name only. Then there was the constant comments trying to undermine Chair Harriet Harman.

Remember these MPs had been voted in unanimously by Parliament.
 
The objecter is very likely a member of FoSB as well, judging by the amazing amount of research done. 😆
 
Objection from Thomas Rex….. I know his sister Di Knosaw
 
And now Starmer is wondering why a policy that is, as above, the initial spawn of Mayor Boris "sticks" to Mayor Khan now he has run with it...... 🤷‍♂️
 
Great to see boris’s 29 year old PA Charlotte Owen sworn in to the House of Lords today, looking forward to the country benefiting from all her sage wisdom and experience.

Clearly nothing dodgy about it and the associated media silence whatsoever.
 
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