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[Peterdev]

With Labour edging ahead in the polls I suspect the man in grey suits will be petitioning Sir Graham Brady for a change in leadership.
Boris Johnson even with many of his cabinet supporting him, has made so many gaffes and lied so many times that many will question whether he can be trusted. Peppa Pig May cost him.
There will be many candidates I’m sure. I think we will see much posturing from Jeremy Hunt, the unofficial health spokesman.
Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak will definitely figure as mightMichael Gove.
Liz Truss has already been setting her position as the attacker of Russia over a possible attack in the Ukraine, and I’m sure will get support on the right.
The Conservative Party will not want to lose in 2024 and deposed Thatcher despite having a majority of 100 just three years before.
I expect a challenge to be made in the new year of Labour stay ahead. I always thought the election coming up was going to be a fight for Starmer but Boris had made it so much easier for him.
Sunak or Truss? I think Truss will edge it.

 

[MJB]

With Labour edging ahead in the polls I suspect the man in grey suits will be petitioning Sir Graham Brady for a change in leadership.
Boris Johnson even with many of his cabinet supporting him, has made so many gaffes and lied so many times that many will question whether he can be trusted. Peppa Pig May cost him.
There will be many candidates I’m sure. I think we will see much posturing from Jeremy Hunt, the unofficial health spokesman.
Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak will definitely figure as mightMichael Gove.
Liz Truss has already been setting her position as the attacker of Russia over a possible attack in the Ukraine, and I’m sure will get support on the right.
The Conservative Party will not want to lose in 2024 and deposed Thatcher despite having a majority of 100 just three years before.
I expect a challenge to be made in the new year of Labour stay ahead. I always thought the election coming up was going to be a fight for Starmer but Boris had made it so much easier for him.
Sunak or Truss? I think Truss will edge it.

Truss is inexplicably popular amongst the membership so could surprise Sunak in a leadership contest.

 

[Wandering Yellow]

Neil Warnock is available and would steady the ship

 

[MJB]

Neil Warnock is available and would steady the ship

Would please the Brexit wing of the party.

 

[Sheik djibouti]

Would please the Brexit wing of the party.

And as he relishes being called a w@nker, he'd fit right in.

Whichever way they turn it will be shambolic. There's plenty more to come out about antics over the last two years with Boris in charge, which could end up hamstringing any successor for a good while yet.

Cokey Gove supposedly has ambitions, but never quite has the balls when the opportunity arises. Raab can;t find his own a**e with both hands and a torch... but will do anything to be in the media.

Ritchie Sunak....maybe, but not sure the Tory party en masse are ready to accept him as leader (or that he'll even want it), we'll see.

If they go with Truss it will be "Global Britain" front and centre with as much Thatcheresque posturing as she can muster (but there's an awful lot of bridge building to be done there since Boris has spent the last 2 years trashing our global reputation). Fun fact about Truss - both her parents are dyed in the wool socialists: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/jul/12/elizabeth-truss-reform-thinktank

Many of the more sensible thinking part of the party were effectively jettisoned into the wilderness when Boris had his Brexit purge, and as a result the Tories may end up facing a Labour-scale battle for the heart and soul of the UK Conservative movement (which has been lurching ever more to the right across the globe).

So do they carry on in this similar vein, or do they change direction....and where exactly do they go??

Thursday could be interesting for Boris if the Tories get anywhere near losing North Shropshire (which really should be dead sheep territory for them). Lots of "big beast" Tories heading there over the next few days, so they'll get to hear from the man in the street just what they think of Boris first hand.....not that many of them will care of course.

 

[Peterdev]

I’d agree that the writing is on the wall for Boris.
The by elections do look crucial to how the general election when it comes will go.
The problem the Conservatives realise they fax, I think, is the danger of the Reform Party. It took 6% of the vote in the last by election. There was a very small turnout 33% so it may be difficult to read much into that. I think that the people at large are fed up with the lies coming out from 10 Downing Street, his appearance leaves a lot be desired, and a lot of other niggling things adding up with dissatisfaction. He gives the impression of upsetting foreign leaders without considering what he’s saying.
Many people, including myself, had high hopes in 2019, and feel let down.
I do still think, that there are able people in the cabinet than those in the shadow cabinet, something I feel Starmer will need to work on if he is able to lead the country.
Many thought Labour would be out of office for decades but I for one think Boris is losing it

 

[Sarge]

Shropshire by election 'safe seat' will be an interesting result methinks .... a huge 'protest' vote there may cause tsunami style waves with the 1922 committee ?

there again Bojo's tailor will be working overtime on a new teflon coated suit

 

[Northstandboy]

I think the final 3 would be Truss, Sunak and Gove.

Who wins? Only Members decide.

 

[Marked Ox]

Truss will win the members vote I reckon based on polls etc where she has a comfortable lead.

 

[MJB]

Truss will win the members vote I reckon based on polls etc where she has a comfortable lead.

Yup. Much as he might be a very canny political operator, I imagine Labour would love it to be Gove as I think he would turn off many voters.

 

[werthersoriginal]

I think the final 3 would be Truss, Sunak and Gove.

Who wins? Only Members decide.

Truss is a moron, Gove is creepy and has stuff in his private life that will come out to embarrass him, it’s got to be Sunak, who seems intelligent but is another rich luvvie. Not sure they’ve got an obvious populist candidate.

 

[QR]

Watch and weep.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1469667741053460482

 

[QR]

 

[MJB]

Watch and weep.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1469667741053460482

 

[bazzer9461]

I think the runners for this would be Sunak and Tryss

 

[greatunclekip]

Boris or Liz Truss. It is akin to asking whether you would rather hack off your left or right bollock with a rusty saw.

 

[werthersoriginal]

I think the runners for this would be Sunak and Tryss

Let the pork market decide

 

[m]

Is it controversial to ask whether someone who is 'starting to question whether Boris can be trusted' should even be allowed to dress themselves, let alone vote in a general election?

 

[Peterdev]

These allegations have taken a year to come out.
Why so long and who is out to discredit him?

 

[Wallop]

Public Enemy don’t fancy Liz’s chances: