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[Whingit]

The flaws of populism soon become apparent when things actually need to be done.

 

[Essexyellows]

Oh so govt knew this was going to happen from July 10th.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1295616647127015429

What you know and what is politically expedient to say are two different things.
The complexity of the situation needed a pretty unique solution. Easy option "Take the Teachers prediction", but that needs some counterbalance, how does this school normally perform historically.
And that is where the problems start, then you have to consider the introduction of improvement targets and measures across society.
That is another of those internal industries that often does more harm than good.

 

[QR]

What you know and what is politically expedient to say are two different things.
The complexity of the situation needed a pretty unique solution. Easy option "Take the Teachers prediction", but that needs some counterbalance, how does this school normally perform historically.
And that is where the problems start, then you have to consider the introduction of improvement targets and measures across society.
That is another of those internal industries that often does more harm than good.

Is that your responce to, not only a bare faced lie from Williamson, but a bare faced lies that was obviously going to call out as such? Why do you side with and try and defend liars?

 

[Essexyellows]

Is that your responce to, not only a bare faced lie from Williamson, but a bare faced lies that was obviously going to call out as such? Why do you side with and try and defend liars?

Ever known politicians to either give a straight answer or tell the truth?
Irrespective of political colour they all lie...... once you get your head around that the froth will reduce.
Remember Mr Blair`s "imminent threat" ? That was a lie.
And the Magic Grandpa`s "inaccuracies" when being put to the fire by Andrew Neil?

Politics is about protecting people from the unpalatable truth and lies are told.

 

[Gary Baldi]

Some posters on here....

2016 - F**k experts. No, we must believe in experts
2017 - we must listen to experts and not people's opinions
2018 - we must listen to experts and not people's opinions
2019 - we must listen to experts (and autistic kids) and not people's opinions
2020 - we must listen to experts (and autistic kids) and not people's opinions. Oh crap, we listed to experts and something went wrong. Maybe we should not listen to experts so much and blame the Govt for listening to experts. They should know better and not listen to experts verbatem

Do I have it right? ? ?

And for the frothers and triggers, I am being very sarcastic here. You can stand your outrage down

 

[FalmouthOx]

What you know and what is politically expedient to say are two different things.
The complexity of the situation needed a pretty unique solution. Easy option "Take the Teachers prediction", but that needs some counterbalance, how does this school normally perform historically.
And that is where the problems start, then you have to consider the introduction of improvement targets and measures across society.
That is another of those internal industries that often does more harm than good.

They did the right thing in the end taking the teachers grades - that is all they could do. f*****g algorithms. With so many A* etc than usual and the same number of places on offer its now down to the universities to test/interview the students and with 4 times as many applicants then 1/4 get in. At least everyone still has the opportunity to go to a top uni - even if they were never really going to get an A* - just we now have competition for places (which is correct if no one sat exams). There now needs to be close scrutiny though over the entrants exams/procedures so that it doesnt become nudge nudge wink wink and all places awarded anyway to students from elite schools. Not planning ahead comes back to bite- a bit like the EFL not knowing in advance how they would decide final places IF a pandemic broke out and season cannot be finished. What happens if season abandoned after one game next year? Have they even considered? There was no forward planning/agreement on a formula by all clubs....pathetic

Education also needs a major shake up - big business and creating debt for young people often with no mention of how the kids will use their degree to be able to make a living and pay off the loan. It becomes deferred national debt the day they start. Surely "David Beckham" degrees and anything which is uncommercial should not be funded 100% through state loans. My daughter graduated in photography and art and is brilliant but almost impossible to make a living. You have to compromise your style in favour of becoming commercial. There was no career advice as part of the course of "where do I go from here". She always says she wished she had know how hard it was to make ends meet before doing the course although luckily she didnt have to repay the loan (overseas ed). My son became a doctor of AI and earns at the sharp end so a good education investment from a state perspective. A big part of our national debt comes from uncollectable student loans for "useless" degrees

But why had we never even put a contingency in place of students not being able to sit exams? The pandemic risk assessment at some stage in the near future was about 2%. You teach the fire crews how to deal with a plane landing with engines on fire with odds way below .01% but Boris and his cross party chums ignore science. Our governers, across the political board, are seriously f*****g useless. Epic eton boys fail after epic eton boys fail.

 

[Pete Burrett]

Reference to 'autistic kids' by GB. All you need to know about his moral compass. Refers to 'frothers and triggers' in unflattering terms, yet his whole raison d'être on this board is to provoke the very people he clearly despises. A very odd character.

 

[FalmouthOx]

Reference to 'autistic kids' by GB. All you need to know about his moral compass. Refers to 'frothers and triggers' in unflattering terms, yet his whole raison d'être on this board is to provoke the very people he clearly despises. A very odd character.

Whats really sad is that maybe we all saw it but an autistic kid took the reigns when we/politicians buried our heads in the sand and did nothing about it. People laughed 5 years ago - now we have the hottest day "ever" and then flash floods across the country. My son, the doctor of AI, is also on the aspergers spectrum. I suspect him and his nerdy friends will the innovation behind our future. Dont mock the messenger. She has done more good than harm and continually questioning Government conventional wisdom is surely essential after so many f**k ups. Talk about the opposite of the Midas Touch

 

[Essexyellows]

Reference to 'autistic kids' by GB. All you need to know about his moral compass. Refers to 'frothers and triggers' in unflattering terms, yet his whole raison d'être on this board is to provoke the very people he clearly despises. A very odd character.

Autism as a diagnosis has only stood alone since the 1980`s and only developed a spectrum since the 1990`s.
Prior to that it was a seen as a form of schizophrenia derived from poor or cold parenting.

People of a certain generation still see them as little ? who need some discipline in their lives.
Sadly we are now in a minority and discipline is a "bad thing".

 

[Big Ron]

Reference to 'autistic kids' by GB. All you need to know about his moral compass. Refers to 'frothers and triggers' in unflattering terms, yet his whole raison d'être on this board is to provoke the very people he clearly despises. A very odd character.

It's OK though Pete, he said he was being 'sarcastic', rather than just espousing his normal views.

 

[Pete Burrett]

People of a certain generation still see them as little ? who need some discipline in their lives.
Sadly we are now in a minority and discipline is a "bad thing".

You say 'sadly we are in minority', I say 'thank goodness you're in a minority'. Vive la difference. I suspect GB finds even discussing the difference as 'frothing'.

 

[FalmouthOx]

You say 'sadly we are in minority', I say 'thank goodness you're in a minority'. Vive la difference. I suspect GB finds even discussing the difference as 'frothing'.

"theres no point frothing when you understands nothing" - Boris Johnson

 

[mooro]

Personally, I am not comfortable with the idea of only teachers predictions being used, because this method is clearly open to either malicious or just optimistic over-grading. Inevitably, even the fairest and most responsible teachers may be guilty of predicting what their students might get on a good day, with the right questions and a following wind, but there are also those who will overpredict to boost their own performance rating within their own school, and then is there anything to stop teachers predicting A* for their entire class, just to try and play the system? Imagine being a teacher who did the honest thing and scored some borderline students down because they weren't quite there, and now are seeing other less-able children who have been wildly overgraded by a less scrupulous teacher/school just trying to get as many through as they can being waved through unchecked....

The few figures I have seen have clearly indicated that this happened on quite a scale - that 40% of grades needed downgrading shows the extent to which it happened, while I heard one school whose A* rates rose from 7% to 13% after the change yesterday.

The question though, is whether these decisions about grades only affect children in the 2020 A-level/GCSE cohorts, or whether there are longer term impacts upon children in other years past and future?

If the only stage at which these grades are really used is straight away to determine University places for A-levels and college places for GCSEs, then to a large extent using predicted grades only perhaps doesnt matter so much in the wider scheme of things - students will be in some semblance of the right order and it is up to these institutions to do their best to accomodate all those that they have made offers to.

However, the problem for me comes in 12 months time, when students in the year below come to take their exams, despite having missed/had to try to do 15-20% of their course from home. They are going to be graded properly, and in the right/standard proportions, despite some not having been able to complete the full syllabus, but then face a whole bunch of students from this summer who have deferred, or not got places this time round despite their 73 A***s, who will be competing for the same number of, if not fewer, places than normal.

THEY are the ones who are going to be betrayed by all this, not those that whose teachers were happy to believe/pretend that they would have improved their mock 'D' up to an A*, just with a bit of extra cramming....

 

[Sharp Edges]

Personally, I am not comfortable with the idea of only teachers predictions being used, because this method is clearly open to either malicious or just optimistic over-grading. Inevitably, even the fairest and most responsible teachers may be guilty of predicting what their students might get on a good day, with the right questions and a following wind, but there are also those who will overpredict to boost their own performance rating within their own school, and then is there anything to stop teachers predicting A* for their entire class, just to try and play the system? Imagine being a teacher who did the honest thing and scored some borderline students down because they weren't quite there, and now are seeing other less-able children who have been wildly overgraded by a less scrupulous teacher/school just trying to get as many through as they can being waved through unchecked....

The few figures I have seen have clearly indicated that this happened on quite a scale - that 40% of grades needed downgrading shows the extent to which it happened, while I heard one school whose A* rates rose from 7% to 13% after the change yesterday.

The question though, is whether these decisions about grades only affect children in the 2020 A-level/GCSE cohorts, or whether there are longer term impacts upon children in other years past and future?

If the only stage at which these grades are really used is straight away to determine University places for A-levels and college places for GCSEs, then to a large extent using predicted grades only perhaps doesnt matter so much in the wider scheme of things - students will be in some semblance of the right order and it is up to these institutions to do their best to accomodate all those that they have made offers to.

However, the problem for me comes in 12 months time, when students in the year below come to take their exams, despite having missed/had to try to do 15-20% of their course from home. They are going to be graded properly, and in the right/standard proportions, despite some not having been able to complete the full syllabus, but then face a whole bunch of students from this summer who have deferred, or not got places this time round despite their 73 A***s, who will be competing for the same number of, if not fewer, places than normal.

THEY are the ones who are going to be betrayed by all this, not those that whose teachers were happy to believe/pretend that they would have improved their mock 'D' up to an A*, just with a bit of extra cramming....

Best post on this subject by a country mile.

Its a long time since I took A levels but I would bet a pound to a pinch of s**t my maths teacher didn't predict I would fail (dismally), but I knew I would and asked to drop out to concentrate on the other two subjects and give myself a chance of better grades in them. He talked me into continuing and wasting my time, in hindsight I would also bet this wasn't for my benefit but so he didn't have to explain why I was dropping the subject. The previous year I had done A/O or was it O/A level and found it really tough going but eventually it clicked and I did well in the exam but A level was completely beyond me, I knew it and so should he.

I reckon the algorithm results would have been closer to reality but that doesn't mean individuals would have been given lower grades than they could have achieved. We now have a situation where a large amount of students will have grades above what their likely outcome was and this seems to be regarded as "right".

 

[LowerSouth]

Personally, I am not comfortable with the idea of only teachers predictions being used, because this method is clearly open to either malicious or just optimistic over-grading. Inevitably, even the fairest and most responsible teachers may be guilty of predicting what their students might get on a good day, with the right questions and a following wind, but there are also those who will overpredict to boost their own performance rating within their own school, and then is there anything to stop teachers predicting A* for their entire class, just to try and play the system? Imagine being a teacher who did the honest thing and scored some borderline students down because they weren't quite there, and now are seeing other less-able children who have been wildly overgraded by a less scrupulous teacher/school just trying to get as many through as they can being waved through unchecked....

The few figures I have seen have clearly indicated that this happened on quite a scale - that 40% of grades needed downgrading shows the extent to which it happened, while I heard one school whose A* rates rose from 7% to 13% after the change yesterday.

The question though, is whether these decisions about grades only affect children in the 2020 A-level/GCSE cohorts, or whether there are longer term impacts upon children in other years past and future?

If the only stage at which these grades are really used is straight away to determine University places for A-levels and college places for GCSEs, then to a large extent using predicted grades only perhaps doesnt matter so much in the wider scheme of things - students will be in some semblance of the right order and it is up to these institutions to do their best to accomodate all those that they have made offers to.

However, the problem for me comes in 12 months time, when students in the year below come to take their exams, despite having missed/had to try to do 15-20% of their course from home. They are going to be graded properly, and in the right/standard proportions, despite some not having been able to complete the full syllabus, but then face a whole bunch of students from this summer who have deferred, or not got places this time round despite their 73 A***s, who will be competing for the same number of, if not fewer, places than normal.

THEY are the ones who are going to be betrayed by all this, not those that whose teachers were happy to believe/pretend that they would have improved their mock 'D' up to an A*, just with a bit of extra cramming....

Thought I read that the maximum grade that can be given by teachers is an “A”.
Is that correct ??

 

[Sheik djibouti]

In case you were wondering and for the avoidance of doubt, here's a handy list of the achievements of the current government. I can't claim credit for compiling this, but I'm sure some in the Tory Party will be quite proud of it:

Posted yesterday on FB & Twitter: “It’s Tuesday, #TheWeekInTory is already 80 points long, and I’m very sorry you have to read it.

And even more sorry I had to write the bloody thing.

Anyway, here goes.
1. The govt announced quarantine for people returning from France

2. It waited until everyone had made travel plans, then brought the policy forwards 24 hours

3. And then an MP using the name “Grant Shapps” helpfully told everybody the wrong date for the start of quarantine

4. Irony’s own Bermuda Triangle, Priti Patel, said migrants were only coming here because the French are all racist and Germans torture people

5. Days after MoD said Patel’s plans for channel protection were “completely potty”, the Navy refused to send warships into the Channel

6. And the UN said her ideas were “very troubling” and would cause “fatal incidents”

7. The govt proceeded with plans to end the furlough scheme, after think-tanks predicted would cost 2 million jobs

8. Universal Credit requires £11bn extra investment to make it cope with current levels of claims, and here come another £2m

9. So naturally, the govt made applications for Universal Credit “online only”, after removing 4000 computers from libraries and job centres since 2015

10. The govt claimed 90% of homeless people were helped off the streets, but data actually showed rough-sleeping rose sharply

11. So govt will scrap the ban on evictions in 5 days’ time, predicted to cause 220,000 extra people in England to become homeless just as winter starts

12. The National Residential Landlords Association said the ban on evictions was “an unnecessary hindrance to our members”

13. 28% of Tory MPs are landlords, and I'm going to mark that down as "an incredible coincidence" and ask no further questions

14. News of unnecessary hindrances brings me to top fireplace salesman Gavin Williamson. He started the week modestly, with a cheery pledge to starve 175,000 children of immigrants, by stopping their free meals while their families cannot legally work or claim benefits

15. All the way back in the mists of time (in May) the govt instructed Ofqual to tell teachers to spend hours per-pupil creating estimated grades, which were reviewed and approved by headteachers

16. But then toothsome mantis Gavin Williamson decided teachers know less than quickly-written and badly-tested software does, and commissioned an algorithm to invent grades for this year's students, based largely on totally different students from different years

17. The Royal Statistical Society (RSS) offered to help assess the outcome of the algorithm after staff at Dept for Education raised concerns. But the govt put barriers in the way which would prevent the RSS from operating properly for 5 years. So they couldn't help.

18. Gavin Williamson is on record instructing Ofqual to design a system that could not allow grade inflation

19. But this week, in a wildly unpredictable turn of events, he blamed Ofqual for - brace yourself - designing a system that did not allow grade inflation

20. But private schools did get grade inflation, an average 8x the increase state schools got

21. On average, 40% of state schools results were downgraded, and in Northern England it was as high as 84%

22. In some subjects, 98.9% of results from private schools were inflated

23. The Times reports the govt still plans to use the algorithm for GCSE’s, but will not downgrade any results, only upgrade them: which only benefits private schools

24. And then a maelstrom of policy changes began: first, students were barred from appealing against results

25. Then they were permitted to appeal results, at a cost of £113 per exam

26. Then it was announced schools would pay the fees, even though schools are not only closed, but broke, having had £7bn cut from their budget by Tories

27. And then it was announced the appeals would be free, even though Ofqual has no facilities to handle that number of appeals

28. And then they cancelled the appeals program completely

29. All that appeals stuff happened in just 48 hours

30. When Scotland used the algorithm, it led to a crisis and had to be abandoned, and Tories called for the Scottish Education Minister to resign

31. Regardless, the UK govt implemented the algorithm that had just been proven to fail, and seemed surprised when it failed

32. The Minister of Innovation said A-Levels don’t matter as much as “grit and determination”, and his failure at Harrow “taught me how to hustle”. He is the 5th Lord Bethan, and “hustled” his way to a hereditary peerage as a result of his Dad dying. Good hustling, dude!

33. Gavin Williamson said there would be “No U-turn, no change”, which I think he got from a sign outside a toll-booth on the M6

34. Boris Johnson said, “be in no doubt about it, the exam results that we've got today are robust, they're good, they're dependable for employers”

35. The Daily Mail – yes, even them – reported the govt only changed its mind after the headmaster of Eton – yes, even them – complained about the unfairness

36. The UK Equalities Watchdog warned it would intervene because the algorithm results were discriminatory

37. Gavin Williamson claimed he only spotted the flaws “at the weekend”, but hours later it was revealed the Commons Education Dept warned him of all these flaws and dangers, in person, and then in a report sent to him on 10th July

38. On the steps of Downing St the day he became PM, Johnson said “My job is to make sure your kids get a superb education, wherever you are from. I will take personal responsibility. The buck stops here”.

39. Boris Johnson is busy “glamping”, so in his absence it was decided the buck stops at the head of Ofqual, who simply followed ministerial instructions; and at Gavin Williamson’s permanent secretary, who was unceremoniously sacked for doing what his boss told him

40. Meanwhile, Williamson felt the best use of his time was to pose for a photo with little on his desk but a cup, a seemingly empty file, and a whip (for reasons that bewilder, but are in keeping with his apparent background as a mildly disturbing minor Addams Family character)

41. Winston Churchill’s grandson, a Tory MP, said of Gavin Williamson “what could have been in the Prime Minister’s mind that led him to appoint so mere, so unreliable, so wholly unsuitable a man to one of the most important jobs in Government”

42. A Tory MP said “It was as clear as day that there would be an issue, given what happened in Scotland, yet they fucked around”

43. A poetic Tory MP said the govt was “w*****g into the void”, and if that’s not the name of a band by midnight, what’s the point of anything?

44. There are now calls for Ofqual to be abolished and replaced with something that will probably be worse, but as yet no news on which unqualified but vaguely aristocratic Tory MP’s wife will run it. I'll keep you posted.

45. Meanwhile, Gavin Williamson had promised to provide laptops to disadvantaged students during the lockdown, but only half the required laptops were delivered, and 27 Academy Trusts got just 1 laptop each, to be shared between over 2000 students

46. After the stunning success of this bit of Artificial Intelligence, the govt announced plans to boost Whitehall AI spending by £200m. The money will go to Faculty AI, which has links to [checks notes] a Mr Dominic Cummings, resident of Whitehall and Specsavers in Durham

47. Rumours that the govt has an algorithm that turns every minister into Chris Grayling are unfounded

48. Chris Grayling – I mean, Gavin Williamson - now has to persuade parents that he’s competent enough to make schools safe for their kids to return. Good luck with that, Gav.

49. The govt had 5 months to plan and execute one exam policy affecting 335,000 students

50. The govt now has 4 months to plan and execute over 2000 Brexit policies affecting 67 million of us, and every business in the country. Brace, brace.

51. On the subject of Brexit, this week Boris Johnson said there would only be a customs border in the Irish Sea “over my dead body”.

52. The same Boris Johnson signed the Withdrawal Agreement that creates a customs border in the Irish Sea

53. Trade Secretary and part-time punchline Liz Truss promised “I will consign these unfair tariffs to the bin of history” when she makes her stern demands in a trade deal between USA (world’s biggest economy) and UK (2% of global trade). I bet the USA is shitting itself.

54. Meanwhile, after Liz Truss sang the praises of a potential deal with NZ (value: 4% of the trade we will lose with a No Deal Brexit) the NZ deputy PM said “Britain is not match fit for trade talks” and was “beset with inertia”

55. Boris Johnson promised “lower costs and a bonfire of red tape” as a result of Brexit

56. So imagine my shock when this week the govt pledge £355m to help companies in NI deal with “a new wave of red tape”

57. The govt scrapped Public Health England in the middle of a pandemic. Cos that’s what we need. Not testing. Just a new sign over a door.
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58. It then appointed Dido Harding to the replacement organisation, even though the replacement organisation didn’t exist at the time

59. Some notes on Dido Harding, in case you're unfamiliar with her impressive record of failing upwards

60. The Evening Standard – a Tory-supporting paper – wrote of her “Dido Harding's utter ignorance is a lesson to us all”

61. She ran the programme that spent 15x the worldwide average building a tracing app that she was told wouldn’t work, unsurprisingly didn’t work work, and which it then scrapped without publishing accounts of where that £13m went

62. She runs Test and Trace, described as “not fit for purpose, let alone world-beating” by the chair of NHS Providers

63. Her £100m Test and Trace programme traced only 56% of cases, compared with Blackburn council, who traced 98% without a penny of new funding

64. She is a Tory peer, married to a Tory MP, who is adviser to a group that campaigns for the defunding, break-up and sale of the NHS; and if you wanted that, putting somebody famous for "utter ignorance" in charge would be a good first step

65. She’s on the board of The Jockey Club, which is based in Matt Hancock’s constituency and gave tens of thousands in donations to Matt Hancock, and then coincidentally got dispensation to stay open for 180,000 unwitting fans when the Covid 19 outbreak began

66. A major Jockey Club sponsor is Randox, to whom her husband is an adviser, and which coincidentally got a £133m contract to produce testing kits without any other providers being allowed to bid for the work

67. Her husband – get this – is a “Govt Anti-Corruption Champion”

68. More govt anti-corruption, and Serco got a £108m contract, just months after it was fined £2.6m for buggering up a previous contract. The minister awarding the contract? A former Serco lobbyist. Chief exec of Serco? A Tory MP.

69. Meanwhile, Medical Examiners have been instructed not to make public the results of investigations into hundreds of deaths of NHS workers who didn’t have PPE

70. The value of utterly useless PPE rose from a mere £50m last week to £300m this week

71. And who got the contracts for useless PPE? A company part-owned by a friend and advisor to Liz Trust. Did I say Trust? I meant Truss. Definitely not Trust.

72. Meanwhile, Sajid Javid, employed full-time as an MP, also took a job at banking giant JP Morgan; cos if the last 10 years has taught us anything, it’s that there’s no danger in MPs or bankers not fully concentrating on what they’re doing

73. The Royal Society issued a report saying relaxing the lockdown early would “inflate deaths and deepen recession”

74. So obviously, the govt relaxed the lockdown in Leicester

75. The Chief Exec of the care home charity CIC said the care sector was “being left to prepare for a second wave alone” as it has received no advice or assistance from govt

76. 10% of care home residents died of Covid in the first half of this year. Not laughing now, are you

77. Weeks after it was proven Russia was regularly attempting to pervert UK democracy, a report found “an ongoing risk of cyber security incidents within Cabinet Office due to the vulnerability of legacy IT systems”, and Michael Gove is directly responsible for fixing it

78. Michael Gove was found to use an insecure email account under the name “Mrs Blurt” (and boasting of blurting as a way of deterring spies is, shall we say, novel) to discuss govt business with Dominic Cummings. So I don’t have terribly high hopes

79. The govt continued to focus on the big stuff, by converting a privy council room in number 9 Downing St into a TV studio it dubbed “the best in the world” – but then again, isn’t everything in this list?

80. The “best in the world” studio isn’t big enough to fit socially distanced journalists, the PM hasn’t even got an official spokesman, and Civil Service regulations prevent one from being appointed but the govt hadn’t realised that."

So, so proud........

 

[Essexyellows]

When someone has to break paragraphs into sentences to make a "list of 80" you suddenly realise what a waste of space,energy & time Twatter is. ? ? ?

 

[Sheik djibouti]

But nothing on the veracity of those points[emoji848]

Complaining because where it came from and because it is split into 80 points is no defence you know....surely you can do better than that.....[emoji848][emoji16]

 

[Gary Baldi]

Reference to 'autistic kids' by GB. All you need to know about his moral compass. Refers to 'frothers and triggers' in unflattering terms, yet his whole raison d'être on this board is to provoke the very people he clearly despises. A very odd character.

Pete, I was clear that I was being very sarcastic and for your own reasons, you have read significantly more into it than was there. The problem is yours. Again.

 

[Essexyellows]

But nothing on the veracity of those points[emoji848]

Complaining because where it came from and because it is split into 80 points is no defence you know....surely you can do better than that.....[emoji848][emoji16]

To be frank it made it difficult to read!

As an example.......... anyone booking a holiday in a GLOBAL pandemic might reasonably expect some potential disruption!
Of course "entitled" types think it won`t happen to them, but then whine like a hungry baby when the rules change.

Illegal migrants in boats.............. simple solution........ collect them up, fill a ferry & send them back to France. It`s safe and they have entered illegally the clue is in illegal.

I could go on .....