There has to be something going on..

Oxvox are a supporters trust with a committee democratically elected by the membership ( of around 1000 members)

Oxvox are not a secret society akin to some sort of illuminati with all manner of hidden agendas

Oxvox is (only) as strong as its membership .... the more members it has, the bigger the impact of what can potentially be achieved on behalf of Oxvox members (and ALL OUFC supporters, by default) by the elected committee

If 'you're' not a member, maybe join up,.... if 'you' think the elected, by the membership, committee aren't doing as well at the job they've been elected to do, ( voluntarily, in their own time), and 'you' believe you could do better, as an Oxvox member 'you' could stand for election, and maybe show 'everyone' how it should be done?:unsure::unsure::unsure:

Why can a member not speak up if they don't like the way the trust is dealing with something. Isn't that the whole point of a representative group?

The "you can't criticise if you can't do better yourself" is batshit. If that's the case, none of us can debate players performances because we haven't played premier league football ourselves.

Yes they are volunteers. "Voluntary" means to want to do something, they are not forced.
 
the consensus is leaning very much towards something (many things) arent as they should be at OUFC.....

the question I'd and some others presumably want answers to about on and off field matters ...over to the late great Marvin' ....
 
Too many of our fans are too passive and docile to get some fire in their belly and demonstrate!

I would support proper coordinated demos, but it needs to have a coherent message and be done to maximum effect like the Charlton fans with crisp packets etc.

Also who would you demonstrate against?, Tiger, the slum landlord, the council?
 
Oxvox are a supporters trust with a committee democratically elected by the membership ( of around 1000 members)

Oxvox are not a secret society akin to some sort of illuminati with all manner of hidden agendas

Oxvox is (only) as strong as its membership .... the more members it has, the bigger the impact of what can potentially be achieved on behalf of Oxvox members (and ALL OUFC supporters, by default) by the elected committee

If 'you're' not a member, maybe join up,.... if 'you' think the elected, by the membership, committee aren't doing as well at the job they've been elected to do, ( voluntarily, in their own time), and 'you' believe you could do better, as an Oxvox member 'you' could stand for election, and maybe show 'everyone' how it should be done?:unsure::unsure::unsure:
No point being on a committee where the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing
 
This isn’t a pop at oxvox - I’m going to sign up as I think there’s more need for a strong independent supporters group at this moment in time than there has for a very long time, but I do have a couple of questions.

1) Were they aware that the football club and local councils were going to issue this joint statement today? Were they even aware that the stadium talks between club directors and councillors had taken place and were they invited to have an input?

2) Is this announcement directly linked to the ‘Interesting news’ that they were expecting to reveal soon? And has today’s statement affected the timescale of when they will issue any statement

3) Do Oxvox know the details of the 5 prospective sites in question and when their whereabouts will be revealed to the general public? Again has their been any direct involvement from Oxvox in identifying these sites?

Just to reiterate I’m not looking to cause mischief, just looking to gauge Oxvoxs feelings on today’s news.
 
I see it that we have 2 options.

[option 1 - available to a club owner]

[option 2 - available to a different sort of club owner]

It all comes down to as fans what do we want from our football club? Success or a community hub that is a great place to go to get away from every day stress.

It really has very little at all to do with what we want as fans.
 
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Too many of our fans are too passive and docile to get some fire in their belly and demonstrate!

I would support proper coordinated demos, but it needs to have a coherent message and be done to maximum effect like the Charlton fans with crisp packets etc.

Also who would you demonstrate against?, Tiger, the slum landlord, the council?

There lies the problem. The club is in such a confused state that it isn't clear what action would lead to a decent outcome.
This is why I made the point of saying that as a fan base we need to understand what we want from our football club first and then come up with a plan of making that happen.
It might even be a case of setting up a new club in spite of the current one. A bit like what fans did when setting up FC United.

As for the comment regarding fans being too passive, i'm not sure that is true. I think fans are just feeling a bit meh over the whole situation and its not like it used to be when a demonstration on the pitch would actually be effective. These days owners have that much money and that much power than it would make little difference.

Unfortunately I can't see this ending well for the club and I can see a fair few years of struggle ahead. That being said, we might get the same affect as we did back in the conference days when it seemed to pull the fans closer together.
 
the consensus is leaning very much towards something (many things) arent as they should be at OUFC.....

the question I'd and some others presumably want answers to about on and off field matters ...over to the late great Marvin' ....
Sarge some of the stuff you say I totally disagree with but it’s all about opinions.

But the music is spot on and puts me in a different place, where I wish I was again ?
 
Slightly changing the story...........................I'm a football fan. You people who come on here, whether they're OUFC fans, or trolls from other clubs, are all, none the less, football fans. It is, to some extent, a 'religion' to us. Investors in clubs, with all their wads of cash, are mostly from foreign countries. When are people here going to get the message; these investors (where ever they are from) are here to make money. The more the better (for them). At this point, I'm not going to write down what's totally on my mind, for fear of being banned on here, or sued by whoever. But I will say this; in the 70's and 80's, football hooligans were prevailant in the game. They quite rightly, were condemmed by our press. We were warned that hooliganism would kill our great game, if it wasn't controlled. Fair point. Then along came the big money men. Football was meant to be a game for the working-class to enjoy. Such was the success of this great game, it was too much for the greedy capitalists to pass over. Capitalists and working class together? Only one winner. The hooligans won't ruin this game. The greedy money men are already doing it.
As far as our club goes? Please don't hate me for saying this, but the only way I can see us winning this latest battle against you-know-who and whatshisname, is for the club to close down and start again, somehow.
I've been to over a thousand games, over the last fifty years, watching different forms of Oxford United. The sorry state that we are in today, really hurts me.
Coventry fans stay away in their numbers. man U fans have their green and white scarves. Protests won't hurt the uncaring (because that's what they are) money men in this sport. Closing down the clubs and being re-born without them, will.

Dave (f*ck the money men) Cudd


Would you support a move by supporters to form a new club and start again as been suggested ? A club with the heart of Oxford United called Headington United starting in the lower leagues and ground sharing in the first instance at Court Place Farm. Do you believe there would be enough support to make this happen or do we stick and wait and see? Is this feasible?
 
Slightly changing the story...........................I'm a football fan. You people who come on here, whether they're OUFC fans, or trolls from other clubs, are all, none the less, football fans. It is, to some extent, a 'religion' to us. Investors in clubs, with all their wads of cash, are mostly from foreign countries. When are people here going to get the message; these investors (where ever they are from) are here to make money. The more the better (for them). At this point, I'm not going to write down what's totally on my mind, for fear of being banned on here, or sued by whoever. But I will say this; in the 70's and 80's, football hooligans were prevailant in the game. They quite rightly, were condemmed by our press. We were warned that hooliganism would kill our great game, if it wasn't controlled. Fair point. Then along came the big money men. Football was meant to be a game for the working-class to enjoy. Such was the success of this great game, it was too much for the greedy capitalists to pass over. Capitalists and working class together? Only one winner. The hooligans won't ruin this game. The greedy money men are already doing it.
As far as our club goes? Please don't hate me for saying this, but the only way I can see us winning this latest battle against you-know-who and whatshisname, is for the club to close down and start again, somehow.
I've been to over a thousand games, over the last fifty years, watching different forms of Oxford United. The sorry state that we are in today, really hurts me.
Coventry fans stay away in their numbers. man U fans have their green and white scarves. Protests won't hurt the uncaring (because that's what they are) money men in this sport. Closing down the clubs and being re-born without them, will.

Dave (f*ck the money men) Cudd
I remember those white flares of yours..
 
I was taking some time off posting on the forum but a quick question for you. The 2 people you mention were they the ones who sold the ground and moved etc because in that instance protest is pointless here as the 1 who owns the stadium doesn’t give a f**k in Monaco and whoever owns the club is operating with 1 arm tied behind their back. We all want a championship club but in our current position I’m afraid top half of league 1 is the best we can hope for.

Protest outside his property* in London at all hours, that please him and ingratiate him with his neighbours.

*Assuming he still owns it.
 
Protest outside his property* in London at all hours, that please him and ingratiate him with his neighbours.

*Assuming he still owns it.
He doesn’t give one. Also bear in mind what sort of people are in these hotels as they don’t give one either
 
Why can a member not speak up if they don't like the way the trust is dealing with something. Isn't that the whole point of a representative group?

The "you can't criticise if you can't do better yourself" is batshit. If that's the case, none of us can debate players performances because we haven't played premier league football ourselves.

Yes they are volunteers. "Voluntary" means to want to do something, they are not forced.
Oxvox members ARE invited to voice opinions ...thats why Oxvox vote on committee members to raise members questions with the people best positioned to ask them

Oxvox committee members presumably dont gain mindreading powers nor do they gain super powers to force key individuals to meet with them on demand, at the drop of a hat, when elected.

Oxvox committee members tend to have work and home lives, as well as being OUFC supporters and, (out of choice), elected to act on behalf of Oxvox members.

juggling that precious spare time to fit round those they arrange to meet with or communicate with isnt always something that can be arranged instantly Id assume. As for reporting back to Oxvox members , and the fan base in general too (by default), again its something that takes time especially for the report to be approved as correct, most Oxvox members Id guess would prefer an accurate report as opposed to one that is incorrect. Patience its said is a virtue


Forums are a place to debate

Oxvox committee aren't perfect, but those elected to the committee, endeavour to carry out what they're supposed to do, to the best of their ability, .... perhaps some of the current crop of first-team squad players should adopt???.... an absolute certainty is being an Oxvox committee member IS a thankless' job'

Oxvox is a supporters trust made up from its members, your above post intimates you are an Oxvox member @Jerome'SAle (?) , if you are, perhaps ask yourself the questions you were asking earlier, if you don't have an answer for them, then maybe ask one of the committee members that you elected?..... bear in mind, they may not reply instantly as they may be earning a living at that particular moment, or spending time with their family, you will, however, I'm sure, get a reply sooner or later.( albeit may not be the answer you'd like.... which is sometimes the case)

there's also an Oxvox section on this very forum too ...a good section to raise Oxvox members and committee matters I believe?

It used to amuse me no end when working at an Oxford factory to hear work colleagues referring to 'The Union' when they were working in a closed shop (ALL shopfloor employees were Union members), as if their elected workplace representatives were some remote and shadowy organisation, instead of realising the obvious which was they, the individual workers, were ALL a part of what actually constituted' the union' they were referring to.

Likewise, Oxvox is a supporters trust, consisting of its members, who elect Oxvox committee members to act on behalf of the membership ( and OUFC supporters in general), if you are a member of Oxvox , you are an integral part of Oxvox, if you're not, as is yours and everyone's prerogative, finger pointing and erroneously apportioning blame to Oxford United supporters, which is what Oxvox supporters trust are made up of -,who as a supporters trust are recognised by both OUFC and other key organisations,to, at the least communicate with, on behalf of Oxford United supporters, -for all you appear to believe is wrong currently at Oxford United isn't right, in my opinion.

When Oxvox committee have something to report to the membership, there is invariably a report issued.... if there's no daily bulletin forthcoming, I think its fair to assume there's nothing currently to report back on, certainly not without being in possession all the currently available information, of anything that's worth reporting back on
 
I would be open to supporting a new ‘AFC Oxford’ scenario but it would have to remain OUR club next time.
 
f**k the notion of AFC Oxford and f**k the trolls who suggest it.

Pathetic.
 
He doesn’t give one. Also bear in mind what sort of people are in these hotels as they don’t give one either
Come on. Mr Kassam said he wanted to leave a legacy referring to the Grounds name.
He will be really upset that he may have to benefit yet again financially from selling the land for houses.
 
f**k the notion of AFC Oxford and f**k the trolls who suggest it.

Pathetic.
Very eloquent retort m well done, credit to the forum. Let’s just see where Tiger and his benelevent Oxford Utd loving chums have taken us in 12 months time. Hopefully it’ll still only be an option not a necessity.
 
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