Chris Wilder

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If they sack him this season it’s a big pay out for him then he will get the next big championship job going, his recent cv means he is fine whatever happens. He has put himself in a great position since leaving us, shame he couldn’t do it here after the conference promotion.
 
If they sack him this season it’s a big pay out for him then he will get the next big championship job going, his recent cv means he is fine whatever happens. He has put himself in a great position since leaving us, shame he couldn’t do it here after the conference promotion.
He actually did a quite exceptional job here, given the structure of the club during his time was bare bones to say the least. No analysts, no medical team outside of a basic physio setup, not a single full time scout let alone a head scout / recruitment manager, a small coaching staff of around three underneath him (who, god bless them, weren’t the best coaches ever), a Chairman back and forth across the Atlantic as though he were hopping on a bus, and such tight financial restrictions by a totally disinterested owner that there were some very ‘creative’ alternative funds having to be found, just to be able to get players of any calibre in let alone decent ones. And yet despite this he had us in the top half of L2 every season after we got promoted, and left us top in January when he eventually had enough. People can say the wheels were coming off anyway that season, but that isn’t true - they came off because he left, not because they were doomed to regardless. Look at everything he has achieved since he left. Miraculously keeping Northampton up when they were dead and buried, getting them promoted as champions with nearly 100 points a couple of seasons later when they were practically in administration, two promotions in three seasons with Sheffield Utd to get them into the Prem... he was excellent here. Appleton’s first season saw him finish lower than Wilder ever did with us in L2, and it required a late charge just to get 13th after a season long relegation battle. Bedding in or not, he had five times the structure being built around him that Wilder ever had.

Whether you like him or not as a man, and whatever you thought of some of the football by the end, the guy over performed here.
 
Thing is we keep saying how strong the championship is, then you look at the premier league table and the gap between it and the premier league seems to be getting wider. I don't think I have watched a single player in league one this season who has looked good enough to play for even a mediocre prem team, the gaps between divisions are getting even bigger.
 
Sheffield Utd were in a ropey financial state at the end of last season so instead of investing in the squad, this season's money was used to plug the gap.

This season was always a write-off.
But they will go down with a 5 year parachute payment and attempt to climb back up again. How many clubs in the Championship currently have this unfair advantage?
 
But they will go down with a 5 year parachute payment and attempt to climb back up again. How many clubs in the Championship currently have this unfair advantage?
No they won't.

The current rules are that you get three years parachute money after relegation. However, if you only manage a one year stay in the Premier League, then that is reduced to two years of parachute money, which is what Sheff Utd will get.
 
How much is promotion worth - £200 million? Then another hundred million in parachute payments over 2 years? Still worth getting the hammerings for that money.
That depends on how much you get yourself into debt to get there in the first place, and how much you spend trying to stay there. There is a reason there is a massive debt problem in The Championship...
 
That depends on how much you get yourself into debt to get there in the first place, and how much you spend trying to stay there. There is a reason there is a massive debt problem in The Championship...

I suppose its better to get the promotion and money after getting into the debt chasing it than just miss out like Derby, Reading etc and then have that debt in the championship/league one.
 
6-0. Good job Arsenal eased off 2nd half. they could could have had 10. they hit the bar as well before scoring the first one. Whether it is Wilder of anyone else, they are doomed to relegation
 
Listening to Radio 5 live they were saying the Premier League is effectively 26 teams with 6 in the Championship with a massive advantage over the rest.

If you get to the PL on a sensible budget the returns can be huge.

Spend £100 million on players and then receive £200 million for reaching the hallowed land, then 2 years of £100 million when you drop out.....

The "pyramid" is getting a very flat top!
 
Chrissy has blown all of his hard earned reputation by going back to the Blades. That first half was the most one sided game of football I have ever seen at the top level. Gormless coaching and team set up. Made Des look like Jurgen Klopp.
Think having a terrible start to the 22/23 season with Boro and going on the insane Watford merry-go-round had already done a fair bit of damage to be fair.
 
Listening to Radio 5 live they were saying the Premier League is effectively 26 teams with 6 in the Championship with a massive advantage over the rest.

If you get to the PL on a sensible budget the returns can be huge.

Spend £100 million on players and then receive £200 million for reaching the hallowed land, then 2 years of £100 million when you drop out.....

The "pyramid" is getting a very flat top!

Even being in the PL doesn't stop the racking up of losses:
 
No they won't.

The current rules are that you get three years parachute money after relegation. However, if you only manage a one year stay in the Premier League, then that is reduced to two years of parachute money, which is what Sheff Utd will get.
I stand corrected, Colin, but even 3 years doesn't make for a level playing field. Isn't it just a reward for failure?
 
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I stand corrected, Colin, but even 3 years doesn't make for a level playing field. Isn't it just a reward for failure?
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm dead against the current structure of the parachute payments, as I think they wildly distort the playing field in The Championship.

There needs to be a better distribution method throughout football, as it's far too top heavy at the moment. If that could be arranged then the next step would be a better method of ensuring that clubs didn't overspend beyond what is financially sustainable.

Unfortunately greed rules, and those at the top are the greediest of all, so I can't see the kind of changes we need coming voluntarily. Maybe the football regulator will be the answer?
 
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm dead against the current structure of the parachute payments, as I think they wildly distort the playing field in The Championship.

There needs to be a better distribution method throughout football, as it's far too top heavy at the moment. If that could be arranged then the next step would be a better method of ensuring that clubs didn't overspend beyond what is financially sustainable.

Unfortunately greed rules, and those at the top are the greediest of all, so I can't see the kind of changes we need coming voluntarily. Maybe the football regulator will be the answer?
Haven’t the EFL/EPL been threatened by FIFA/EUFA if we did have a regulator? I may have misheard but I thought there was some sort of threat towards the football in this country.
 
My view of Wilder has mellowed over the years, I was never one of the haters but the way he quit left a bit to be desired.

In some ways there are similarities to Manning in that they both came in when the club and players were at a very low ebb, steadied the ship and progressed the club.

The playoff final against York at Wembley was one of great day in the history of our club, and Wilder played a big part in that.
 
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