Chris Wilder

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Yellow River said:
My view of Wilder has mellowed over the years, I was never one of the haters but the way he quit left a bit to be desired.

In some ways there are similarities to Manning in that they both came in when the club and players were at a very low ebb, steadied the ship and progressed the club.

The playoff final against York at Wembley was one of great day in the history of our club, and Wilder played a big part in that.
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Wilder shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Manning. At least Wilder got the job done in a pretty much life or death situation for the football club, and didn't f*ck off as soon as someone else came calling (not that his pushing for a move didn't get tiresome in that last year, mind).
 
bazzer9461 said:
Haven’t the EFL/EPL been threatened by FIFA/EUFA if we did have a regulator? I may have misheard but I thought there was some sort of threat towards the football in this country.
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The UEFA/FIFA rules preclude government interference in the running of football in a country. The regulator is proposed to be independent of government, so in principal not an issue. The two outstanding concerns are apparently "scope creep" - ie needs to be firmly established what the boundaries of responsibilities are, and have a process to prevent expansion without agreement. Also, there is currently proposed a clause taht the regulator to consider the “foreign and trade policy objectives” of the UK government when taking decisions - but would imagine this will be lost quite quickly (it is a hangover from the last government).
 
Berliner said:
Wilder shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Manning. At least Wilder got the job done in a pretty much life or death situation for the football club, and didn't f*ck off as soon as someone else came calling (not that his pushing for a move didn't get tiresome in that last year, mind).
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He was just trying to play politics with the owners after Kelvin Thomas left - think had KT stayed it wouldn't have been an issue.
 
Yellow River said:
My view of Wilder has mellowed over the years, I was never one of the haters but the way he quit left a bit to be desired.

In some ways there are similarities to Manning in that they both came in when the club and players were at a very low ebb, steadied the ship and progressed the club.

The playoff final against York at Wembley was one of great day in the history of our club, and Wilder played a big part in that.
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Agreed apart from the Manning comparison.
 
How we left was awful, but what he achieved won't be bettered, Appleton getting us to League One and Des to the Championship were both fantastic, but I truly believe Wilder saved this football club, we barely had a pot to p**s in and further seasons in the Conference could have been the final nail in the coffin.
 
Yellow River said:
My view of Wilder has mellowed over the years, I was never one of the haters but the way he quit left a bit to be desired.

In some ways there are similarities to Manning in that they both came in when the club and players were at a very low ebb, steadied the ship and progressed the club.

The playoff final against York at Wembley was one of great day in the history of our club, and Wilder played a big part in that.
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Totally agree with the notable addition that I feel it was Us fans who partially drove him out. We moaned that he was dour and the football largely unentertaining despite the results.
 
OUFCGav said:
The UEFA/FIFA rules preclude government interference in the running of football in a country. The regulator is proposed to be independent of government, so in principal not an issue. The two outstanding concerns are apparently "scope creep" - ie needs to be firmly established what the boundaries of responsibilities are, and have a process to prevent expansion without agreement. Also, there is currently proposed a clause taht the regulator to consider the “foreign and trade policy objectives” of the UK government when taking decisions - but would imagine this will be lost quite quickly (it is a hangover from the last government).
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Thank you
 
Carpy said:
How we left was awful, but what he achieved won't be bettered, Appleton getting us to League One and Des to the Championship were both fantastic, but I truly believe Wilder saved this football club, we barely had a pot to P**s in and further seasons in the Conference could have been the final nail in the coffin.
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And he signed Beano on a permanent
 
Ewes said:
Totally agree with the notable addition that I feel it was Us fans who partially drove him out. We moaned that he was dour and the football largely unentertaining despite the results.
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We stagnated. What was, it - 12th, 9th & 9th again in the three full seasons of his back in the Football League? And never scoring more than 60 goals in a season. Maybe we would have held on for a playoff spot in his final season, but we weren't world beaters that year either.

The job he did to get us promoted out of the Conference, and then re-established in League Two was utterly outstanding.....and then I think a few years later, it just ran its course. He wanted to move onto something new, we wanted to move onto something new (crowds had dropped significantly)......we each went our separate ways, and it ultimately worked out best for both of us. No hard feelings.
 
Twiggy85 said:
Wilder in my eyes deserves an aweful lot of respect, if I remember correctly when he took over we were mid-table at best in the conference and going backwards. Getting promotion out of that nonsense of a league was far from a given - i seriously fear where we would be now had he not come in to turn it around,
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I reckon barring a fax machine related points deduction we would have done it a season sooner too. He gave the 2008-09 team made up of bits-and-pieces players a load of confidence. I reckon they would have won the playoffs that year.
 
I respect what he did in his first 18 months at the club, but after that he got a lot wrong and we stagnated in League Two, never even making the play-offs.

He dismantled the promotion side too early, and we never had the momentum that promoted teams usually do. He was stubborn and obstinate, and we stagnated, as @tonyw says.

Not a likeable man though, and I can't stand him as a person.
 
Colin B said:
I respect what he did in his first 18 months at the club, but after that he got a lot wrong and we stagnated in League Two, never even making the play-offs.

He dismantled the promotion side too early, and we never had the momentum that promoted teams usually do. He was stubborn and obstinate, and we stagnated, as @tonyw says.

Not a likeable man though, and I can't stand him as a person.
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I know that you will have had more exposure to him than me Colin, so have better insight as regards the club.

I’ve met him a couple of times round Sheffield and my brother knows him to speak football with, and he is a straight up what you see is what you get Sheffielder! Very mixed bag, can be a miserable sod or good craic depending on the day..

The job he did in turning a sinking club around and restoring pride was incredible. You went to games actually expecting to win again.

His whole managerial record is pretty astounding bar the last couple of appointments at Boro and Watford.
 
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