Gary Baldi
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The one for the ITK sauce. Currently Brown Sauce, but Gravy is making a good go of itWhich appointment is that then?
The one for the ITK sauce. Currently Brown Sauce, but Gravy is making a good go of itWhich appointment is that then?
SoyThe one for the ITK sauce. Currently Brown Sauce, but Gravy is making a good go of it
Unlike Wilder, who I dislike as a human being, I had no personal animus about Pep. The man seemed like a non-entity to me, characterless, bland and dull.
The reason I was so keen for OUFC to fire him was simply that (in my opinion) he was destroying what had been a good set of footballers that retained a decent nucleus and attitude when he arrived and was going to relegate us. I still think we would be relegated if he was manager. Tactically inept, a pathetic leader, he eradicated any passion from the players so that they played like they didn't give a f**k.
He was a disaster, Clueless Pep Clotet.
Sol bloody Campbell has won the premier league. Not sure that has anything to do with his coaching ability. So far stam has had 1 good season and 1 s**t season.
Both Bobby Moore and Bobby Charlton won more than a few trinkets at national and international level as players. However, that doesn't equate to ability as manager or coach.... if memory serves ,Bobby Moore wasn't much good as Oxford city fc manager, nor did Bobby Charlton shine as a manager, pne was his one dabble, I think?
Yup. In my view one of the very worst managers we have ever had. Given a huge budget by OUFC historic standards he squandered it on a toxic mix of has beens and never will bes.Unlike Wilder, who I dislike as a human being, I had no personal animus about Pep. The man seemed like a non-entity to me, characterless, bland and dull.
The reason I was so keen for OUFC to fire him was simply that (in my opinion) he was destroying what had been a good set of footballers that retained a decent nucleus and attitude when he arrived and was going to relegate us. I still think we would be relegated if he was manager. Tactically inept, a pathetic leader, he eradicated any passion from the players so that they played like they didn't give a f**k.
He was a disaster, Clueless Pep Clotet.
Er no. You need to have played at some level at least (but Mourinho and Hodgson have never played a professional competitive game, Klopp and Wenger were both lower league players. In fact, I would turn it on its head- the better the player, the more difficult it is for him to relate - as a manager- to less gifted players...I never said success as a player indicates success as a manager. Mourinho barely played did he? What I said was that there is "no guarantee, because there’s a lot more to it than that".
I was more referring to dealing with players on a one-to-one level as opposed to tactics or the like. Pass on advice on dealing with big match nerves, or give inspiring anecdotes of how to get back into the team once you've been dropped by Fergie, etc.
The journals and twitterati seem to be putting Robinson as the frontrunner now, so this debate may be rendered fruitless, but I'm sure you can understand the potential benefits that come with a manager having had success as a player?
Historically, most of the greatest managers had relatively modest playing careers.I never said success as a player indicates success as a manager. Mourinho barely played did he? What I said was that there is "no guarantee, because there’s a lot more to it than that".
I was more referring to dealing with players on a one-to-one level as opposed to tactics or the like. Pass on advice on dealing with big match nerves, or give inspiring anecdotes of how to get back into the team once you've been dropped by Fergie, etc.
The journals and twitterati seem to be putting Robinson as the frontrunner now, so this debate may be rendered fruitless, but I'm sure you can understand the potential benefits that come with a manager having had success as a player?
SoyThe one for the ITK sauce. Currently Brown Sauce, but Gravy is making a good go of it
Thai Green Sauce going forwardFish, Shirley?
Err Brian Clough -modest playing career?? - I think you'll find he was a top class strikerH
Historically, most of the greatest managers had relatively modest playing careers.
Fergie, Clough, Mourinho, Wenger - it is a different job and 'show us yer medals' just doesn't work any more....
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Historically, most of the greatest managers had relatively modest playing careers.
Fergie, Clough, Mourinho, Wenger - it is a different job and 'show us yer medals' just doesn't work any more....
Yup. In my view one of the very worst managers we have ever had. Given a huge budget by OUFC historic standards he squandered it on a toxic mix of has beens and never will bes.
He then instituted a low intensity training regime that robbed us of our fitness edge, went back to the awful 4231 system, and gradually turned even good players like Ledson into confused, demotivated losers. He fell out with his staff, developed a habit of going out on the town and gradually lost the plot entirely.
The fact that we were still mid-table when he left was solely owing to the first 6 games (12 points) - we had been playing very poorly for months.
His epitaph will be the 0-7 defeat, the worst result in our clubs history. The moment he declared that acceptable, he should have been fired. The following month was just an inevitable degeneration.
Ron Atkinson?H
Historically, most of the greatest managers had relatively modest playing careers.
Fergie, Clough, Mourinho, Wenger - it is a different job and 'show us yer medals' just doesn't work any more....
Err Brian Clough -modest playing career?? - I think you'll find he was a top class striker
LolWow. 10 days trekking in the Annapurna region (nepal). Back on line today and still no Manager! ? KR looks a pretty decent appointment though if true.
Chas’s football knowledge isn’t great compared to many on here.
Err Brian Clough -modest playing career?? - I think you'll find he was a top class striker
Brian Clough was one of the most prolific goal scorers ever to grace a football pitch
Brian Clough was one of the most prolific goal scorers ever to grace a football pitch