Chairman Done Deal - New owner is Tiger

U must have missed Colin’s post earlier which says all info is due to go out to members next week? U don’t think it might be a bit professional to let the man announce his own plan? Rather than just blurting it out at the first opportunity? That would look great at the press conference wouldn’t it, I’d like to present my new manager- we know Oxvox already told us . Oh ok well my aim is - we know they told us that as well.

The main point is they were there, they asked the questions, as they did with sartori. Details of which haven’t been published either. And I’m sure that if the answers to those questions from either party had not been satisfactory then they would have done something about it. We elect them to act on our behalf.

Yeah I did to be fair as I was catching up on the few pages or so since I looked earlier or this morning.

I do take some of my comments back RE OxVox and the sale but I do find the line between themselves and the club very blurred at times. Perhaps the minutes will answer more questions.

As I said perhaps I expect something that isn’t what a supporters group is formed to do.
 
U must have missed Colin’s post earlier which says all info is due to go out to members next week? U don’t think it might be a bit professional to let the man announce his own plan? Rather than just blurting it out at the first opportunity? That would look great at the press conference wouldn’t it, I’d like to present my new manager- we know Oxvox already told us . Oh ok well my aim is - we know they told us that as well.

The main point is they were there, they asked the questions, as they did with sartori. Details of which haven’t been published either. And I’m sure that if the answers to those questions from either party had not been satisfactory then they would have done something about it. We elect them to act on our behalf.

Yeah I did to be fair as I was catching up on the few pages or so since I looked earlier or this morning.

I do take some of my comments back RE OxVox and the sale but I do find the line between themselves and the club very blurred at times. Perhaps the minutes will answer more questions.

As I said perhaps I expect something that isn’t what a supporters group is formed to do.

I think it’s been a pretty exceptional circumstances , especially after Darryls frustration s about the sartori deal being played out in public. Plus Oxvox is an easy target for some to vent their frustrations. I’m still happier they are in the room than locked out of it and knowing nothing
 
So 'shareholders' don't make or lose money when the company they own does well or badly? You need to join Corbyns economics team.
When a business is losing money, the shareholders pay what the losses are in proportion to their holding. If they do not then their shares are diluted.
Similarly, when a company makes money, it pays a dividend, again in proportion to the shareholding.

What do you know Charlie?, you are only a minor little man business wise.

I bet I have created more revenue in blue chip business than a minor mental pygmy like you...
 
I think it’s been a pretty exceptional circumstances , especially after Darryls frustration s about the sartori deal being played out in public. Plus Oxvox is an easy target for some to vent their frustrations. I’m still happier they are in the room than locked out of it and knowing nothing

I don’t care about Eales frustrations, nor any of our previous owners. I care about Oxford United (which we all do on here).

Until we see what happens or what’s in the notes I can’t really say I’m happy or not if they were in the room. I do know some current and previous members and know they have the best interest of the club at heart! Which is very important.

Agree RE an easy target, it always is for those who step above the parapet on either side.
 
Fair comments. You were right about Kassam and I admit I was fooled for a number of years. I only cottoned on around the time that he binned his mate JMG and Diaz.

Ian Lenagan was relatively successful in that he managed to bring in Wilder and get us promoted back into the football league. He did also implement the idea of a development squad of young players which we should have been carried forward. IL was let down by Nick Merry and also by Kelvin Thomas who both spunked away his cash.

Darryl has been successful but you seem very critical of him as a person as well his abilities as Chairman. Basically implying that his only success was the recruitment plan which was implemented by Mark Ashton. A recruitment policy which was only setup to line Darryl's pockets.

As you say, only time will tell if Tiger is going to be good for Oxford United.

Bitter may have been the wrong word and I appreciate the calm response to my criticism. You do come across as an arrogant a**e when responding the likes of Dave T and LondonRoader, which is pretty much 90% of your posts.

If you look at the tone those two adopt to me, I would need to be saintly to respond politely. I'm far from that. They have an agenda, work to orders from above and therefore are not dealing straight when they come on here.
However if someone wants to have an honest, respectful conversation then I shall always be up for that, even if it includes criticism of me or disagreement on what I am saying. Myles and I became mates on that basis!
For the record, I do not think that our club is in a very good way at the moment. A lot of good people have left, and huge swathes of operations - commercial and marketing - have been abandoned. Those things take years to build up. Ashton was pretty hopeless at that side of things, so it's not solely Darryl's fault but he has now had two years to put them right and they have got even worse.
The Academy has had cuts to its budget in the last year, and spent almost a year without a director. (Something that would have led to loss of academy status in a matter of weeks if Dan hadn't come in, presumably at tigers instigation).
The development squad was binned off when Ashton left, making it harder to develop young players. The head scout left and wasn't replaced.
In short, over the last two years we have gradually been becoming a potemkin village of a club. Shiny and bright on the outside (until recently) but increasingly no substance behind the scenes.
So - given that business results always lag the decisions that make the difference - its no great surprise to me that results have in the end deteriorated. We have 29 points from the last 27 games, which is relegation form over a protracted period of time. That doesn't happen by chance when you have a 3 million quid budget (certainly top 10 if not higher).It is the result of relentlessly poor decision-making over 18 months to 2 years.
I have no idea if Tiger will be any good for us or not. But the way we were headed was pretty damn awful, so I welcome what will be at least a change of direction.
More immediately, though, the players are the same and we need them to get 3 or four wins in the next 9 games (dont fancy our run in much). The next three games are all against sides below us. 6 points or more and we will be on the road to safety. 5 points a good step in the right direction. 4 points treading water and still anxious. 3 points or lower and we would be in the mire. So a heartfelt COYY!
 
So who do we work for then Charles? As the only people that has ever fed me information from above to post on here is u and Myles, and I’m guessing that is the same with londonroader. Maybe that is why we have an issue with u. Look at the tone u adopt with us and others, yet some how we manage to remain saintly enough to not drop down to childish name calling and personal insults. But hey ur the super educated pr guy. Never ur fault.
 
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I can see why you say that, but I don't think that it is a fair characterisation. I have been questioning of ALL new owners of the club, from Kassam onwards (maybe even back to Tim Midgeley!). That included Nick Merry, and the then shadowy Ian Lenagan, and now includes Tiger.

I have to admit, I was aggressive about Kassam because - unlike other supporters, bar Rosenthal - I could see all too clearly what he was doing. But the rest of it has been gentle scepticism, not some shouty denunciation. When little Dave made the same accusation earlier, I asked him to find the posts I had made against Darryl and he apologised and said that he had made a mistake. I hadn't.

My "associates' in trying to buy the club were Donald, the first time around. The second time I was only peripherally involved by introducing Donald to Sartori. I had no financial dog in that fight - they're both far too rich for me.

Am I bitter that Stewart and Juan don't own the club? No. Wrong word. I am disappointed, because I know them to be two decent, very wealthy, passionate football guys who had a good plan. Honestly, if Tiger has likewise then I will be delighted (as will Stewart). But one would have to be a pretty seriously lobotomised individual not to raise a quiet hand at the back of the class when an individual who extracted cash from Reading FC whilst claiming he couldn't afford to run it then pitches up on our doorstep.

And that is what it is. I've seen nothing to suggest that Tiger isn't a nice guy, or that he has any machiavellian plan. But nor, yet, have I seen any well-funded positive plan. So judgement will have to be suspended until that comes along. Of course, it goes without saying that he could have a great plan, and fund it munificently, and it could still go wrong. That's football, isn't it?

Where you spoke earlier re Daryl making approx 1 million are your figures including player sales? The reason i ask is that it's fairly normal for these payments to be made in stages so not sure if all monies from sales would have been received?...if that is the case then that Debt owed to Oufc i presume becomes potentially Tigers or am i way off the mark?
 
Where you spoke earlier re Daryl making approx 1 million are your figures including player sales? The reason i ask is that it's fairly normal for these payments to be made in stages so not sure if all monies from sales would have been received?...if that is the case then that Debt owed to Oufc i presume becomes potentially Tigers or am i way off the mark?

No. You are correct that some transfers are made in stages. Hence last summer there was an additional 1.2 million from Roofe and o'Dowda but additional small payments to be made on Marvin and Ledson. So the net incoming was 1.1 million.
Plus Lundstram and Sercombe (both paid for upfront) and the compensation for Appleton plus the first 1.5 million for Marvin.
In theory, those future payments are the property of the club and its future owners. But in the negotiations with Sartori, let's just say that our now previous owner didn't see it that way! Lets hope that Tiger has stood firm on that one, as he will need every bit of future cashflow available to him.
 
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I have no idea if Tiger will be any good for us or not. But the way we were headed was pretty damn awful, so I welcome what will be at least a change of direction.

More immediately, though, the players are the same and we need them to get 3 or four wins in the next 9 games (dont fancy our run in much). The next three games are all against sides below us. 6 points or more and we will be on the road to safety. 5 points a good step in the right direction. 4 points treading water and still anxious. 3 points or lower and we would be in the mire. So a heartfelt COYY!

I too welcome the change in direction... looking forward to staying in League 1, with a good finish to season under Bellamy, and then an interesting build for next years promotion to Championship! Off to Sixfields now. Amazon sorted my pre game prep ... although difficult to drive in ...
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COYY!
 
No. You are correct that some transfers are made in stages. Hence last summer there was an additional 1.2 million from Roofe and o'Dowda but additional small payments to be made on Marvin and Ledson. So the net incoming was 1.1 million.
Plus Lundstram and Sercombe (both paid for upfront) and the compensation for Appleton plus the first 1.5 million for Marvin.
In theory, those future payments are the property of the club and its future owners. But in the negotiations with Sartori, let's just say that our now previous owner didn't see it that way! Lets hope that Tiger has stood firm on that one, as he will need every bit of future cashflow available to him.
Hence why, presumably, that DE has retained some interest in the club?
 
No. You are correct that some transfers are made in stages. Hence last summer there was an additional 1.2 million from Roofe and o'Dowda but additional small payments to be made on Marvin and Ledson. So the net incoming was 1.1 million.
Plus Lundstram and Sercombe (both paid for upfront) and the compensation for Appleton plus the first 1.5 million for Marvin.
In theory, those future payments are the property of the club and its future owners. But in the negotiations with Sartori, let's just say that our now previous owner didn't see it that way! Lets hope that Tiger has stood firm on that one, as he will need every bit of future cashflow available to him.
I guess there could be an issue over whether Eales has any Director loans left at the club. If he does then he may have made an agreement that he gets paid that debt on receipt of outstanding player transfer income?
 
I imagine the 1st March meeting will be interesting. Wish I was going.

An awful lot of the great and the good here seem to know loads about Tiger but has anyone on here actually ever met him?


Not going today - predict we’ll get turned over .

We’ve been waiting for Bellamy to rock up for a week now - why isn’t he in the dug out today?
 
What do you know Charlie?, you are only a minor little man business wise.

I bet I have created more revenue in blue chip business than a minor mental pygmy like you...
Dunno what all this bickering is about, but WTF is ‘England Rangers’?
 
Who would have thought it, tiger to outline his plans , in person on Monday. What’s the bets that Oxvox then release details of their meetings on the same subject to members shortly after [emoji849]. Professional
I asked Jem yesterday if OxVox were aware of Tiger's plans for the club. His reply? "Not really Myles"

So, it will certainly be interesting to see what snippets of information OxVox did actually garner in their meetings. But it also raises the question as to why an independent supporters' trust should issue a press release, co-ordinated with the club, welcoming a new owner on board when a) they don't seem to know what his plans are and b) that new owner has baggage which raises significant concerns.
 
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