EPL VAR

[Common Villager]

Refs aren't helped by ever increasing levels of gamesmanship from players and managers alike. Introducing a stopping clock is, in my view, the best way to deal with that as it would take a lot of pressure off of the refs.

I absolutely hate VAR, but cannot see it being scrapped as it generates additional talking points and, therefore, clicks, and clicks = £££.

 

[bazzer9461]

Also managers have a lot to answer for.

How many times did you hear "I've seen it back and...." then that manager imply that single refereeing decision was the reason they lost?

I’m still waiting for Fergie Jr to come out and say “ I’ve looked it back it was never handball as it hit Joe Bennet in the face and I was wrong “
Mind you them pigs are flying high

 

[Emilio]

I’m still waiting for Fergie Jr to come out and say “ I’ve looked it back it was never handball as it hit Joe Bennet in the face and I was wrong “
Mind you them pigs are flying high

Can you imagine if he were to ever acknowledge that?

 

[werthersoriginal]

Pay me what PL refs are paid then sure!

Yeah they just do it for the money. You'll have to change your shoes and get new glasses, but other than that you should be good to go.

 

[Marked Ox]

The Premier League has to do what it's members decide, so you never know... Unless the big clubs start throwing out their toys as usual.

Not enough clubs backing it according to a football journalist (can't remember who) on R5 live earlier. The clubs aiming for Europe are likely to vote against and there are a couple of others as well.

 

[Steve Gilbert]

This does my head in, everyone has spent all season saying how VAR has ruined the game and yet when there is a chance of getting rid of it, pundits, radio presenters, ex players suddenly say we shouldn’t get rid of it as it won’t look good that ‘the best league in the world’ won’t have the latest technology.

Stop being sheep, get rid of it and let’s get back to football being a game for the fans in the stadium rather than a TV show and except that there will be human error with referees, just like players make mistakes many times in a game.

 

[SteMerritt]

Stop being sheep, get rid of it

Yet people keep buying Apple phones. Mad isn't it.

 

[Foley]

I saw something on Sky when it was said that decisions have gone from 84% accuracy to 92% ( from memory- maybe slightly different), since VAR.
Surely VAR should be to stop clear and obvious errors.
IF they did get rid of VAR, I wonder how long it would take managers to moan when the inevitable occasional bowlers are made?

 

[holdsteady]

I saw something on Sky when it was said that decisions have gone from 84% accuracy to 92% ( from memory- maybe slightly different), since VAR.
Surely VAR should be to stop clear and obvious errors.
IF they did get rid of VAR, I wonder how long it would take managers to moan when the inevitable occasional bowlers are made?

They moan now, they moaned before and they will moan in the future, it’s the only thing more certain than life and taxes that football managers will blame a bad result on refs/var decisions.

Steve Evans has never lost a game of football fairly, 100% win record if the decisions had have been right.

 

[Marked Ox]

I saw something on Sky when it was said that decisions have gone from 84% accuracy to 92% ( from memory- maybe slightly different), since VAR.
Surely VAR should be to stop clear and obvious errors.
IF they did get rid of VAR, I wonder how long it would take managers to moan when the inevitable occasional bowlers are made?

Who has decided they were accurate decisions? Not the same group of officials making the decisions I'd hope as that would be marking your own homework? And considering plenty of decisions are actually subjective how does that play into the stat?

This isn't aimed at yourself, rather general questions as these stats of accuracy seem to be just accepted.

 

[tonyw]

Who has decided they were accurate decisions? Not the same group of officials making the decisions I'd hope as that would be marking your own homework? And considering plenty of decisions are actually subjective how does that play into the stat?

This isn't aimed at yourself, rather general questions as these stats of accuracy seem to be just accepted.

They have a panel (the 'Key Match Incidents Panel') that reviews every VAR decision that gets made to decide a) if the decision itself was correct, and b) if VAR should indeed have intervened. Here's their latest work:

Manchester City should not have had first penalty versus Wolves - panel

Manchester City's first penalty against Wolves should not have been given, an independent panel says

www.bbc.com

Assume they get their "We're awesome and get everything 99.9% right" stats from that.......

 

[Marked Ox]

They have a panel (the 'Key Match Incidents Panel') that reviews every VAR decision that gets made to decide a) if the decision itself was correct, and b) if VAR should indeed have intervened. Here's their latest work:

Manchester City should not have had first penalty versus Wolves - panel

Manchester City's first penalty against Wolves should not have been given, an independent panel says

www.bbc.com

Assume they get their "We're awesome and get everything 99.9% right" stats from that.......

Cheers.

So the decision is wrong (again subjective and not unanimous) but the VAR Officials are right not to intervene even though Man City get a huge advantage from a 'wrong decision'.

Further highlights the pointlessness of VAR as it doesn't correct a major advantage to a team based on the weekly changing target/get out clause of 'clear and obvious'.

 

[Essexyellows]

Was shocked by this....................

Premier League vote in favour of keeping VAR

Wolves' proposal to scrap VAR has been voted down at the Premier League's annual general meeting.

www.bbc.co.uk

I mean if someone's toenail being "offside" gets you a lucrative European slot......................

 

[Left Wing Cross]

Norwegians make a fishy protest:

Norway Football: Match abandoned after fishcakes and tennis balls thrown on pitch

Watch as the Norwegian Eliteserien match between Rosenborg and Lillestrom is abandoned as fishcakes and tennis balls are thrown onto the pitch in protest against VAR.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Londox]

Good on them! VAR sucks the life out of the sport.

 

[Essexyellows]

VAR works in some sports.

Tennis........... instant replay, visible to the crowd, and the ball is either in or out - limited number of appeals.
Cricket...........instant replay, visible to the crowd, and the decision is either in or out - limited number of appeals.
Rugby Union - instant replay, visible to the crowd, only used for grounding, foul play at the referees choice.

Why did football get it so wrong?

 

[m]

VAR works in some sports.

Tennis........... instant replay, visible to the crowd, and the ball is either in or out - limited number of appeals.
Cricket...........instant replay, visible to the crowd, and the decision is either in or out - limited number of appeals.
Rugby Union - instant replay, visible to the crowd, only used for grounding, foul play at the referees choice.

Why did football get it so wrong?

Because football wasn't interested in getting it right.

Football was interested in column inches, in social media, and even in people talking.

 

[Grumpy Git]

VAR should use the trunk and head of the body, from the head down to the a**e and not include the players arms and legs.

 

[chuckbert]

VAR should use the trunk and head of the body

For elephant polo?