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Do people think we may have a new lockdown

  • Yes

    Votes: 29 43.9%

  • No

    Votes: 30 45.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • Total voters
    66
Well there is now another cobra meeting taking place this weekend. Midweek announcement next week to ruin everyone's Christmas?
 
OX14 said:
Well there is now another cobra meeting taking place this weekend. Midweek announcement next week to ruin everyone's Christmas?
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It is to discuss with the devolved nations "what to agree on".
Might be a bleak New year for hospitality/clubs etc.
Expect something like "restrict who you mix with at Christmas"........
The generic reply to that would possibly be Foxtrot Oscar, especially after the recent headlines and news.
We have 4 households here for 3 days, and there isn`t anyone calling that off.
We are all either double jabbed and/or boosted and we are all doing LFTs before travelling/arrivals.
The house has more sanitiser than my office at work and we can open the windows/patio doors as per the guidance.

That's what you are getting Boris, we are using our "common sense". 🤷‍♀️
 
I assume a lockdown will only happen if the NHS stands to be overwhelmed. Bear in mind it's under strain every winter and we're about to go into Christmas where more are mixing during super transmissible Omicron, then I really wouldn't be surprised to see a lockdown in the New Year.
 
I'm afraid I regard it as inevitable, albeit a circuit breaker or whatever the term is. If you look at it from an entirely dispassionate point of view, (hard I know) this is an incredibly transmissible variant with pretty horrific daily numbers. The likely outcome is that greater numbers (even though a small percentage, which would still be a big number) will produce some level of illness, and no we dont yet know how ill, will require treatment. This in turn is going to further impact upon the NHS. A break gives time to slow the numbers and increase booster jabs. It also gives time for the production and distribution of the new 'treatments' for those who become ill to be treated at home. Politically unpopular, but from a virus control perspective perhaps it has some merit.
 
Initial results suggest that Omicrons' ability to spread VERY rapidly comes at the "cost" of its disease severity.
This is a good thing for the majority of people, however, if lots get infected then lots of those will, in turn, end up very poorly. That is just a percentage/numbers fact.
Combine that with people isolating on a scale not seen before and things could get very tricky.

Get jabbed, pop a mask on, avoid people. (y)
 
Essexyellows said:
Initial results suggest that Omicrons' ability to spread VERY rapidly comes at the "cost" of its disease severity.
This is a good thing for the majority of people, however, if lots get infected then lots of those will, in turn, end up very poorly. That is just a percentage/numbers fact.
Combine that with people isolating on a scale not seen before and things could get very tricky.

Get jabbed, pop a mask on, avoid people. (y)
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Unfortunately the "disease severity" drop is not looking very well supported:
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/232698/modelling-suggests-rapid-spread-omicron-england/ says
The study finds no evidence of Omicron having lower severity than Delta, judged by either the proportion of people testing positive who report symptoms, or by the proportion of cases seeking hospital care after infection. However, hospitalisation data remains very limited at this time.

Given that delta was 3 or 4 times as severe as vanilla sarscov2 infections, a more infectious and no less severe covid could be unpleasant.
 
chuckbert said:
Unfortunately the "disease severity" drop is not looking very well supported:
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/232698/modelling-suggests-rapid-spread-omicron-england/ says
The study finds no evidence of Omicron having lower severity than Delta, judged by either the proportion of people testing positive who report symptoms, or by the proportion of cases seeking hospital care after infection. However, hospitalisation data remains very limited at this time.

Given that delta was 3 or 4 times as severe as vanilla sarscov2 infections, a more infectious and no less severe covid could be unpleasant.
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Measure that with population vaccination and immunity ....... despite London having gone "off the scale" for cases hospitalisation has "only" increased by 28% so far.
The R number is now accepted as "over 4" in some places so avoiding people is a good thing!

Post Christmas circuit breaker - don`t make plans for New Year!
 
Talk is now of a circuit breaker lockdown.
Another u turn by the government looking likely
 
Peterdev said:
Talk is now of a circuit breaker lockdown.
Another u turn by the government looking likely
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How is that a u turn? He and the government hoped to not have one but there was always the possibility that there would be one, they just never mentioned it.
 
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