Thomas/Brock/Jones
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We had a signing all lined up then Robbo goes ' you're the one for me , fatty ' and it all fell through !!
God knows I'm miserable nowWho doesn’t love the Smith’s!
Most people on this thread are listening to Panic on repeat!Who doesn’t love the Smith’s!
Yeah, meaning Big Mouth Strikes Again.We had a signing all lined up then Robbo goes ' you're the one for me , fatty ' and it all fell through !!
I wish both were stayingWish Sykes was staying and Moore going…
“No. There was a yellow shirt that we were, and – if anybody wants me to phone them on a Zoom and, and uh”Right, I re-listened to the transfer bit again from KR and typed it out too in case slowed down it made more sense.
The yellow shirt starter? The offer of a Zoom call? Why are we 'way off where we want to be' still?
Ramblings even our Bazzer would be proud of.
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NC: You could have done deals this week but they weren’t the right ones, things can still happen and it’s not all about money. Is that what you said basically before the game?
KR: No. There was a yellow shirt that we were, and – if anybody wants me to phone them on a Zoom and, and uh – I’ve had some great conversations with people, really good people. One or two things have fell flat this week. And, for me, my team means more to me than any individual and if somebody – I’m not going to get into it, it’s not the time – but there’s been some really positive conversations with some people who want to be here for the right reasons. There’s been some conversations with people for the wrong reasons. Shove it. Do one. ‘Cos we don’t need you. Whoever that is.
NC: Sorry, is that players coming in or players here already?
KR: A number of things! Like, this club means more – there’s no one person who is outside this football club or in this football club is bigger than the club! There’s no manager stood on this touchline who is greater than the badge, and the fans, who have been here for years. We are all a cog in that. Some players I’ve spoke to are dead excited about coming here. And can we make it work? We don’t know. But there’s enthusiasm to ‘can we have a conversation? Can we talk about this?’ Brilliant. But should I be chasing people? Should I be going backwards and forwards between a number of people? Shove it where the sun don’t shine. Because this football club is way off where we need to be still. And we’re in those stages – and for me, I am quite comfortable with who we are. And I think that’s err – and it’s not just people who will think it’s them. And there’s six things that have gone on this week and I’ve gone ‘Oh come on! Really?’. And that doesn’t really sit well with me. And there’s been two or three conversations this week where I’ve gone ‘Oh wow! I didn’t expect that. That is really exciting’ and it’s really refreshing. And you have these conversations with people all the time. Some people lift you to clouds and to dream, some people drag you in the doldrums sometimes and err – a player who skips on this pitch is far greater than someone I have to pull onto it. And that’s it. You cross that white line in a yellow shirt, it’s got to mean something to you ‘cos I think it means an awful lot to me, the players and the fans.
You could have a PHD in complex decoding from the University of Bletchley Park where your tutor was a certain Alan Turing and still struggle with that.“No. There was a yellow shirt that we were, and – if anybody wants me to phone them on a Zoom and, and uh”
Can someone who’s ‘ITK’ explain to me what the hell this means please?
Am I missing the point?with respect you're missing the point. Any player can only be gotten within your budget....The Agents play games touting clients here there and everywhere and will keep coming back with club B are now offering +£££££.
Karl is right we cannot mortgage the club and if what we offer along with our potential is not enough then move on it is that simple and people can complain but that is this world of modern football
This Transfer Thread make me feel likeGod knows I'm miserable now
“No. There was a yellow shirt that we were, and – if anybody wants me to phone them on a Zoom and, and uh”
Can someone who’s ‘ITK’ explain to me what the hell this means please?
Totally agree Kip. I live in a small town in West Yorkshire 2 miles from Halifax which is the real ale hub of the North. My large modern stone-built 4-bed detached house cost me £350k a few yrs ago. No contest.I would disagree. I am ten minutes from the most beautiful scenery in the UK in the Peak District. I am 25 minutes drive from a City with a huge selection of bars, Michelin restaurants, live music venues, and top end shops. I have a 5 bed detached for less mortgage than I was paying for a 2.5 bed in kiddy. If I'm Cole Stockton, therein lies the problem.
That is the dilemma and the chances of getting it wrong are high. On yesterday's performance by a squad that would have been substantially different if circumstances had been otherwise we realised, if we didn't know already, that we have a greater depth of talent on the books than some might have thought. Who knew for example, what a player we had in Bodin?Club enquired about a Championship striker over a week ago, but unsure whether that’s still ongoing or whether the move has been rejected by the parent club / player. Assuming (perhaps wrongly, let’s see) that the Defoe stuff over the last few days suggests it’s a no on that one. Especially as Winnall is doing his usual “I’m fit this time, I swear!” routine a week before the deadline.
The trouble with wanting to sign players when you’re at the right end of the table is that you need to try to bag ones who you won’t suddenly find aren’t good enough in a few months if you get promoted. Sometimes being further down and looking to build for the next 18 months at the same level means you’re able and more comfortable to get a deal done. You know that the player is of the right calibre for where you are and will be, the player feels comfortable with their prospects for the same reasons etc. If you’re in with a proper shout of going up then are you comfortable paying money / offering a decent contract for a good player at this level but a bench warmer at the next one? If you want to go for one who you believe can definitely hack it at the next level, are they willing to come and risk you missing out when they could definitely get a Championship club (and Championship wages) by the summer? Can you afford them if you match those financials but then get stuck at this level for the next couple of seasons?
It’s deceptively tricky.
Never thought of thatThere's a hint there!
Ruffels returning on loan?!?
Bit your miles away from the famous Oxford UnitedI would disagree. I am ten minutes from the most beautiful scenery in the UK in the Peak District. I am 25 minutes drive from a City with a huge selection of bars, Michelin restaurants, live music venues, and top end shops. I have a 5 bed detached for less mortgage than I was paying for a 2.5 bed in kiddy. If I'm Cole Stockton, therein lies the problem.
It shouldn’t be and hopefully it isn’tPlan B is the new plan A!
Clubs paying agents altogether should be outlawed, it incentivises players moving year on year and puts lower league clubs at a distinct disadvantage. Any payment for an agents services should be paid for by the player, if they want to chuck away some of their signing on bonus, let them.If you’re a talksport listener and have ever heard Simon Jordan talk about agents, it’s excellent therapy!!
It’s incredible what they get away with and how few of them operate with genuine good intentions and act like business people/career builders rather than groomers and opportunists.
One of his best arguments is that there should be some very heavy regulation on them that legally requires them to contribute financially to grass roots football on every single transaction - say 5-10% FA tax and a further premium payment made directly to the selling club if they are further down the pyramid selling u21 players to top clubs. They take millions out of the game and some communities don’t even have a safe space for kids to kick a ball around.
Though footballers earn enough for that to be less of an issue, and no one is expecting Cole Stockton to settle here permanently. More relevant may be the fact that Oxford is a small club in an area not known for football - if you walk around town you see no signs of the club, whereas I’m sure Sunderland or Portsmouth are full of scarves, shirts, and posters. Hopefully the new ground will help in that respect.I would disagree. I am ten minutes from the most beautiful scenery in the UK in the Peak District. I am 25 minutes drive from a City with a huge selection of bars, Michelin restaurants, live music venues, and top end shops. I have a 5 bed detached for less mortgage than I was paying for a 2.5 bed in kiddy. If I'm Cole Stockton, therein lies the problem.