Marked Ox
Level: Mickey Lewis
(351 Apps, 7 Gls)
130 needed.
Sport Cricket - Summer 2022
- Thread starter SteMerritt
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Level: Mickey Lewis
ZeroTheHero
Level: Phil Whitehead
(238 Apps)
I think it's going to be pretty tense!
ZeroTheHero
Level: Phil Whitehead
(238 Apps)
I think it was Lees?Crawley very lucky first ball
I understand there isn’t many threatening to replace him but he really is incredibly lucky to have had as many chances as he has
OxfordBoy
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
Yep I’ve had a shocker there lol
You’re still thinking in old England terms!
ZeroTheHero
Level: Phil Whitehead
(238 Apps)
Well I certainly was at 5.15 - with the benefit of another few hours it is completely obvious it would be a stroll in the park!
Marked Ox
Level: Mickey Lewis
(351 Apps, 7 Gls)
Well I certainly was at 5.15 - with the benefit of another few hours it is completely obvious it would be a stroll in the park!
England can still lose from this position.
- Year of First Game
- 1980
Well that didn't take long. England win by 9 wickets. Lees fell LBW for 39.
Not a comment you see regularly on this forum
ZeroTheHero
Level: Phil Whitehead
(238 Apps)
I'm caught between thinking this new brand of test cricket is quite exciting (which it is!) and mourning the lack of subtlety and batting skills (which is also true).
I suppose the acid test is going to come when we try to apply what works OK in helpful English conditions to games elsewhere in the world, where our bowlers are likely to be less effective and our batsmen less likely to be able to just attack and hope to get away with it. That's at the start of December in Pakistan, I think.
I suppose the acid test is going to come when we try to apply what works OK in helpful English conditions to games elsewhere in the world, where our bowlers are likely to be less effective and our batsmen less likely to be able to just attack and hope to get away with it. That's at the start of December in Pakistan, I think.
Mike_H
Level: Dave Langan
(136 Apps, 3 Gls)
Shame on Deepti Sharma to win the Third ODI by doing a "Mankad". Shame on the rest of the Indian Women's cricket team for not withdrawing the appeal.
Within the rules but not within the spirit of the game. I would be saying the same if England had done it.
Within the rules but not within the spirit of the game. I would be saying the same if England had done it.
I personally don’t have a problem with it. If the batter is halfway down the wicket by the time the bowler releases the ball then that is cheating - it makes it much harder for the fielding team to get a runout. Either don’t steal ground as the non-striker, or be ready to be dismissed in that way.
MJB
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
That would be fair enough but if you watch the side-on shot, the England batter is not advancing up the pitch unfairly.
- Year of First Game
- 1980
MJB
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
You can clearly see in the replay that she is watching for the flight of the ball to then decide whether to run or not.
It’s a shame but the umpires can’t be blamed either. A bit like Stokes’ dive in the World Cup Final leading to a boundary - they can only go by the rules set out.
The difference here of course was the spirit in which the fielding team approached the incident. I think most neutrals would say it was in poor taste, but others will feel it’s a legitimate way of taking a wicket.
nige01ox
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
Agree completely - and think Jimmy is spot on here. For me it's an absolutely shameful way to win/end a game. At the home of cricket of all places! I've played a lot and could never, ever do that as a bowler. Prefer to keep my integrity intact.
Sharma didn’t give a warning either. I don’t have an issue with a Mankad if some degree or warning is given to the batter but she didn’t do that. It came across as a measure to ‘win at all costs’ which is becoming a bit of a trend in Indian cricket. Did they not think they would be able to take England’s 10th wicket before England reached the total?
Men’s or women’s team, they’re way behind the Aussies now as my least favourite international cricket side.
Men’s or women’s team, they’re way behind the Aussies now as my least favourite international cricket side.
To me you don't leave your crease unless you are going to run. I have no sympathy for the England batter. It's within the rules and stops people starting their run before the batter has hot the ball. She had stolen a massive amount of distance by the time the batsman would have hit the ball.
Yeah it’s been around for a while, but fortunately you see Haley’s comet more than a Mankad.
To be fair to the Indian mens team, they allowed Ian Bell to come back out after a tea break once. Bell thought the ball was hit the ball for four on the last ball before Tea,and they started walking off. The fielder on the boundary threw the ball back in and the bails were taken off by Dhoni I think, but because they walked off for tea, and Bell’s lapse in concerntration they didn’t think it was very sporting to get him out like that, and allowed him to carry on with his innings, and I think he went and got 130+ at Trent Bridge I think it was.
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- Year of First Game
- 1980
You can't steal a 'massive distance' in the second and a half it takes to get down to the batsman from the position she was in during the delivery stride (in her ground). She was caught out by the bowler throwing an intentional dummy by not releasing the ball.
nige01ox
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
Yes, that was an act of high class by a man of high class, MS Dhoni. He quite rightly won the ICC Spirit of Cricket Award of the Decade for that action. Had it happened when Kohli was captain, I think it's safe to say the outcome would have been different. And as per usual, Indian cricket fans are being completely toxic and aggressive on social media over yesterday's events. There's none so blind..
Marked Ox
Level: Mickey Lewis
(351 Apps, 7 Gls)
She's known for it and apparently teams talk about it before the game. Doesn't change that I think the Umpire should have called dead ball as said above it doesn't look like she was even intending to bowl the ball. I hope we start targeting her or the Indians to make a point when we next play them in the same way. Once the point is made then back off again.
This nails it for me.
Mike_H
Level: Dave Langan
(136 Apps, 3 Gls)
If I was bowling what is to stop me from doing this every delivery and trying to run out the non-striker, even if they have had no intention of leaving their crease? The game would never get started. Equally fair comment about when the non-striker is clearly trying to pinch a few feet.
Hence the rule should be one warning must be given, probably one per innings rather than one per batter. Then everyone knows where they stand. Perhaps there should also be one or more penalty runs for trying to run out the non-striker when he/she hasn't left their crease.
Over to you MCC!
Hence the rule should be one warning must be given, probably one per innings rather than one per batter. Then everyone knows where they stand. Perhaps there should also be one or more penalty runs for trying to run out the non-striker when he/she hasn't left their crease.
Over to you MCC!
Just looked up on the Mankad dismissal. Kapil Dev had got 4 people out in that fashion. Yes it’s within the rules, but warn the opposing batsmen. Tell them if you want to continue to chance it, then you will be run out in this manner.
It’s definitely not in the spirit of the game, but perfectly legal. A bit of a grey area!
It’s definitely not in the spirit of the game, but perfectly legal. A bit of a grey area!
There is one way to never, ever let it happen - don’t leave your crease until you see the ball released and in the air…
Marked Ox
Level: Mickey Lewis
(351 Apps, 7 Gls)
You are Michael Atherton and I claim my £5.
