Sport Cricket - Summer 2023

Stupid question alert!!

I assume that Ireland are a recognised test nation and these wickets will count towards overall records?

Anderson going past 700 test wickets, Broad 600, and us winning back the Ashes would be a perfect summer.

The move to Test status has been a blessing and a curse for Ireland. Irish cricketers used to come over to the UK and improve as a result on the county circuit. Morgan, Joyce, Rankin, Stirling, Porterfield etc were always stalwarts on that. It's almost certainly why drastically improved from 2000 to 2015.

However, when Test status was granted, their players either had to keep playing as a county players and not play for Ireland or be regarded as Overseas Players for which there are limited spaces in county squads (and not many counties will choose an Irish player over an Aussie or Indian looking to play an English summer over here). With no proper red ball game of note in Ireland itself, they're kind of stuck in having Test status but having no pathway to it or a domestic competition to choose players from.

You essentially have an ODI squad having to completely reset itself into a Test side* every time they play the longer format.

*Which may just be Bazball, anyway! I mean, England have scored 524 off 496 in their innings which is crazy really.
 
Why were England so bloody stupid to have declared in their first innings against Australia?
 
Did anybody see any of the ODI at the Oval today?
Stokes 182 in 124 balls. Its a bit worrying that his knee still seems to be hindering him, but what a player!
Topley and Woakes bowling well.
If we can get Rachid and Wood fit we look in decent shape.
3 weeks to the WC.
It has been a very odd series of games against NZ, including the T20s. We have had 7 games now, and all 7 have been one-sided pastings. On paper the two sides are really evenly matched so the lack of tight finishes has been surprising.
 
It has been a very odd series of games against NZ, including the T20s. We have had 7 games now, and all 7 have been one-sided pastings. On paper the two sides are really evenly matched so the lack of tight finishes has been surprising.
Agreed. As someone who generally prefers the long form of the game, I think that the saving grace of the ODI and T20 (especially) formats is that you can get some very exciting finishes. As these series have shown, that is far from a given though even when (as you say) the teams look pretty evenly matched.

On a separate point, the upcoming ODI world cup is being held in India. There was some discussion on yesterdays cricket coverage of the effect that the dew would have later on in those games and some concern that effectively it could be 'win the toss, win the match'. I do hope that isn't the case!
 
On a separate point, the upcoming ODI world cup is being held in India. There was some discussion on yesterdays cricket coverage of the effect that the dew would have later on in those games and some concern that effectively it could be 'win the toss, win the match'. I do hope that isn't the case!
It has certainly been the case in recent tournaments out there.
 
They said on sky sports that the time of year might lessen the dew effect, don't know to what degree though.
There was also some discussion of the idea of letting the umpires change the ball whenever it had got too sodden. I know cricket is (and has always been) a game where the weather can have an effect, but in a one day competition where the conditions are changing so radically at a pretty consistent time every day that's a real problem.
 
Yes, I think there will be matches out there where the outcomes are determined by changing conditions which may lead to a few surprises.
Also sky put up our fixtures and NZ'S. They have a lot less travelling than us, surely that's an unfair advantage!?
 
It has been a very odd series of games against NZ, including the T20s. We have had 7 games now, and all 7 have been one-sided pastings. On paper the two sides are really evenly matched so the lack of tight finishes has been surprising.

Doesn't look as though today's game is going to be close either; NZ 126-5 after 26 overs, chasing 312. Southee is very unlikely to bat given that he broke his thumb earlier.
 
It will be interesting how much of the current approach is effective in very different Indian conditions, or whether it changes somewhat. I am slightly surprised we haven't gone somewhere a bit more 'subcontinent-ish' to prepare - but all the other teams seem to be playing as well at them moment, so perhaps we couldn't. Playing a slightly undercooked NZ in English conditions might not be the best preparation IMO.
 
It will be interesting how much of the current approach is effective in very different Indian conditions, or whether it changes somewhat. I am slightly surprised we haven't gone somewhere a bit more 'subcontinent-ish' to prepare - but all the other teams seem to be playing as well at them moment, so perhaps we couldn't. Playing a slightly undercooked NZ in English conditions might not be the best preparation IMO.
Don't worry, we have a couple of games against Ireland still to come, although I think the WC squad will have left so won't be playing. Not sure why we have these games scheduled
 
Don't worry, we have a couple of games against Ireland still to come, although I think the WC squad will have left so won't be playing. Not sure why we have these games scheduled
£££
To clarify, tickets for the game against Ireland in Bristol start at £45. This seems a lot for a meaningless, (likely) one-sided friendly
 
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It will be interesting how much of the current approach is effective in very different Indian conditions, or whether it changes somewhat. I am slightly surprised we haven't gone somewhere a bit more 'subcontinent-ish' to prepare - but all the other teams seem to be playing as well at them moment, so perhaps we couldn't. Playing a slightly undercooked NZ in English conditions might not be the best preparation IMO.

Australia playing warm up games in South Africa, and hammered in today’s match. Zappa went for 110 in 10 overs, whilst Klassen scored 174 off 83 balls.
 
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