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Yup. Seems like some are trying to shoehorn last night into familiar 'don't perform against physical sides' territory. Not what I saw at all.
Just a bad day I hope.
Just a bad day I hope.
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I think that's really generous regarding the defenders. Thorniley and Brown were never here at the same time and both appeared to be last minute thoughts almost. Mous can't be included, would you feel confident having him play 90 minutes for a few games in a row? We've had 5 defenders for 4 spots all season, 5 and half if you include Mous. We've got wingers who can "do a job" at right back but absolutely nothing for left back when it's clear Seddon needs taking out the firing line. That isn't bad luck, it's bad planning.For those saying about lack of defenders we have had the following for CB’s this season, Mous, McNally, Moore, Brown, Thornley. Thornley gets recalled so Brown is brought in so still 2 players for each CB role plus Long.
Have you seen how many midfielders and wingers we have? If you think we're fine for numbers defensively then surely it's massive overkill and a huge waste of wages having 8 or so wide players on the books for 2 spots? Across those 5 positions we've got probably 13 or 14 players, some decent players won't even get in the squad and yet our back line is picked by default.Long gets injured, McNally has a personal issue, Brown gets injured. That is bad timing/luck.
You can’t sign loads of players incase we have a injury crisis.
It probably is, although the promotion team isn't far behind I think. That doesn't mean it can't be better balanced.It was only today people were saying this is the best squad we have had in years!
Agreed HM1, I also think Seddon is getting singled out too often. Yes, he’s made mistakes but all too often he’s been isolated by a lack of cover from his team mates.Being one of the 307 last night, I dont think the 'doom' is necessary. The game last night was decided on very small margins. we had 2 chances cleared off the line (one was amazing) and the keeper made a decent save in the first 20 minutes from Holland one of those goes in and the game is totally different. Cant agree with the scapegoating of Seddon, he is being asked to predominantly be an attacking full back therefore will often be 'the wrong side of the ball' he also has not had a stable left sided centre back to work with. Also his winger always tends to be our less defensive one eg Holland or Whyte whereas Long tends to get Williams or Sykes in front who always track back. Without knowing the stats I would imagine Seddons goals/assists far outway the RB position.
Anyway onto Bolton, COYY
It was disappointing, but Accrington are a good team. They've had really decent results against the better teams in L1 this season. Oh well. How did Baldock play? Hard to tell on I player, but RadOx said his movement was excellentBeing one of the 307 last night, I dont think the 'doom' is necessary. The game last night was decided on very small margins. we had 2 chances cleared off the line (one was amazing) and the keeper made a decent save in the first 20 minutes from Holland one of those goes in and the game is totally different. Cant agree with the scapegoating of Seddon, he is being asked to predominantly be an attacking full back therefore will often be 'the wrong side of the ball' he also has not had a stable left sided centre back to work with. Also his winger always tends to be our less defensive one eg Holland or Whyte whereas Long tends to get Williams or Sykes in front who always track back. Without knowing the stats I would imagine Seddons goals/assists far outway the RB position.
Anyway onto Bolton, COYY
Movement very good and one low cross came in and he had got beyond the front post but had the quality to just feint and step over the ball and nearly created an opening. Most importantly looked fit and sharpIt was disappointing, but Accrington are a good team. They've had really decent results against the better teams in L1 this season. Oh well. How did Baldock play? Hard to tell on I player, but RadOx said his movement was excellent
For those saying about lack of defenders we have had the following for CB’s this season, Mous, McNally, Moore, Brown, Thornley. Thornley gets recalled so Brown is brought in so still 2 players for each CB role plus Long.
Long gets injured, McNally has a personal issue, Brown gets injured. That is bad timing/luck.
You can’t sign loads of players incase we have a injury crisis.
It was only today people were saying this is the best squad we have had in years!
I would assume not everyone lives on this forum, unlike some.Is it me or do some of our posters only ever watch us lose? We never see them after a win!!
With the EFL squad limit of 22, two to a position with additional depth provided by under 21's, that are exempt from said rule, seems like a rational way to divide this.
Lets compare that to the actual squad:
LB - Seddon / ?
CB - Brown/ Moore / McNally / Mous
RB - Long / Forde
Instantly it's clear we are lacking specialist LB cover.
Counter argument #1, Long can play left back.
This currently weakens our RB position as well, whilst also weakening LB by playing a player out of position, on his weak foot.
Counter argument #2, a CB can cover LB.
Due to the way that KR uses his full back to overload the opposition's midfield / defence, this limits how we attack down our left hand side, meaning oppositions know we will be attacking mainly down our right instead and adjust accordingly.
Our CB'S;
So of our four CB's, we have two clear first choice, one currently unknown quantity that has had an indifferent start and a player that has had 5 appearances in the league totalling 43 minutes in the season by Feb.
- A very talented, promising but green\raw player in McNally.
- A 35 year old player who recently had knee surgery, that despite being our only fit CB didn't get brought on with 35 minutes to go, in Mous.
(It will say more than I, this forum, or even KR ever could about how the club really see Mous this weekend should Brown not be fit.)- A loanee, that his own fan's questioned & has so far not done any thing to disprove these rumors, looking shaky in both games.
(though no decision can be made yet as he may not be fully match sharp / fit, so judgement MUST wait)- A championship calibre defender, that will ultimately end up there.
At RB, over a season as back up ford will make mistakes that lead to goals, which in turn will cost points. For the odd game as cover he is fine, a third choice emergency player. To go into a season without specialist full back cover on either side is negligence.
Your notion that this situation is just down to bad luck is wilfully ignorant or naïve at best.
This situation was created by KR building an imbalanced squad in the summer, and compounded by lack of defensive signings in January.
If you think there is no creed in anything I have said just look at the numerical data, despite having four places in defence we only have 7 players (Seddon, Moore, Long, McNally, Forde, Brown, Mousinho), in contrast to the three attacking position we have 9 players (Taylor, Sykes, Henry, Whyte, Holland, Williams, Bodin, Winnall, Baldock).
We can not expect to have to score 2+ goals in every game to win them.
(I wont even get into having only one CDM at the club, as this post is long enough already).
I would assume not everyone lives on this forum, unlike some.
When we win they go happily on with their lives, and when we lose they like to be analytical; discussing & debating what went wrong, as a form of cathartic release.
I would also assume the reverse to be true for people as well.
Nothing wrong with this.
Exactly right. To expand on your last point, there are some posters of course who are negative but also there are some whoa re overly positive. Saying "here come the moaners" every time we lose and insisting everything is great at all times helps absolutely no one.With the EFL squad limit of 22, two to a position with additional depth provided by under 21's, that are exempt from said rule, seems like a rational way to divide this.
Lets compare that to the actual squad:
LB - Seddon / ?
CB - Brown/ Moore / McNally / Mous
RB - Long / Forde
Instantly it's clear we are lacking specialist LB cover.
Counter argument #1, Long can play left back.
This currently weakens our RB position as well, whilst also weakening LB by playing a player out of position, on his weak foot.
Counter argument #2, a CB can cover LB.
Due to the way that KR uses his full back to overload the opposition's midfield / defence, this limits how we attack down our left hand side, meaning oppositions know we will be attacking mainly down our right instead and adjust accordingly.
Our CB'S;
So of our four CB's, we have two clear first choice, one currently unknown quantity that has had an indifferent start and a player that has had 5 appearances in the league totalling 43 minutes in the season by Feb.
- A very talented, promising but green\raw player in McNally.
- A 35 year old player who recently had knee surgery, that despite being our only fit CB didn't get brought on with 35 minutes to go, in Mous.
(It will say more than I, this forum, or even KR ever could about how the club really see Mous this weekend should Brown not be fit.)- A loanee, that his own fan's questioned & has so far not done any thing to disprove these rumors, looking shaky in both games.
(though no decision can be made yet as he may not be fully match sharp / fit, so judgement MUST wait)- A championship calibre defender, that will ultimately end up there.
At RB, over a season as back up ford will make mistakes that lead to goals, which in turn will cost points. For the odd game as cover he is fine, a third choice emergency player. To go into a season without specialist full back cover on either side is negligence.
Your notion that this situation is just down to bad luck is wilfully ignorant or naïve at best.
This situation was created by KR building an imbalanced squad in the summer, and compounded by lack of defensive signings in January.
If you think there is no creed in anything I have said just look at the numerical data, despite having four places in defence we only have 7 players (Seddon, Moore, Long, McNally, Forde, Brown, Mousinho), in contrast to the three attacking position we have 9 players (Taylor, Sykes, Henry, Whyte, Holland, Williams, Bodin, Winnall, Baldock).
We can not expect to have to score 2+ goals in every game to win them.
(I wont even get into having only one CDM at the club, as this post is long enough already).
I would assume not everyone lives on this forum, unlike some.
When we win they go happily on with their lives, and when we lose they like to be analytical; discussing & debating what went wrong, as a form of cathartic release.
I would also assume the reverse to be true for people as well.
Nothing wrong with this.
Again another very good post.With the EFL squad limit of 22, two to a position with additional depth provided by under 21's, that are exempt from said rule, seems like a rational way to divide this.
Lets compare that to the actual squad:
LB - Seddon / ?
CB - Brown/ Moore / McNally / Mous
RB - Long / Forde
Instantly it's clear we are lacking specialist LB cover.
Counter argument #1, Long can play left back.
This currently weakens our RB position as well, whilst also weakening LB by playing a player out of position, on his weak foot.
Counter argument #2, a CB can cover LB.
Due to the way that KR uses his full back to overload the opposition's midfield / defence, this limits how we attack down our left hand side, meaning oppositions know we will be attacking mainly down our right instead and adjust accordingly.
Our CB'S;
So of our four CB's, we have two clear first choice, one currently unknown quantity that has had an indifferent start and a player that has had 5 appearances in the league totalling 43 minutes in the season by Feb.
- A very talented, promising but green\raw player in McNally.
- A 35 year old player who recently had knee surgery, that despite being our only fit CB didn't get brought on with 35 minutes to go, in Mous.
(It will say more than I, this forum, or even KR ever could about how the club really see Mous this weekend should Brown not be fit.)- A loanee, that his own fan's questioned & has so far not done any thing to disprove these rumors, looking shaky in both games.
(though no decision can be made yet as he may not be fully match sharp / fit, so judgement MUST wait)- A championship calibre defender, that will ultimately end up there.
At RB, over a season as back up ford will make mistakes that lead to goals, which in turn will cost points. For the odd game as cover he is fine, a third choice emergency player. To go into a season without specialist full back cover on either side is negligence.
Your notion that this situation is just down to bad luck is wilfully ignorant or naïve at best.
This situation was created by KR building an imbalanced squad in the summer, and compounded by lack of defensive signings in January.
If you think there is no creed in anything I have said just look at the numerical data, despite having four places in defence we only have 7 players (Seddon, Moore, Long, McNally, Forde, Brown, Mousinho), in contrast to the three attacking position we have 9 players (Taylor, Sykes, Henry, Whyte, Holland, Williams, Bodin, Winnall, Baldock).
We can not expect to have to score 2+ goals in every game to win them.
(I wont even get into having only one CDM at the club, as this post is long enough already).
I would assume not everyone lives on this forum, unlike some.
When we win they go happily on with their lives, and when we lose they like to be analytical; discussing & debating what went wrong, as a form of cathartic release.
I would also assume the reverse to be true for people as well.
Nothing wrong with this.
Am I paranoid or is this a pattern?A win tonight feels like it could almost have us dreaming of automatics which is why I also have this bad feeling. Whenever we seem to flirt with that we seem to get a "reality check" result.
Is Hobson part of the recruitment team?Again another very good post.
IMO we haven't had a balanced squad since KR came in.
Brown was Hobsons choice in the end as we moved too late for our preferred targets. This happened last season and we ended up with Grayson. Let's hope Brown does turn out to be a better player!!
I am not sure about your view of Hanson. Apart from a couple of games most of the comments regarding Hanson have been unflattering. I was at the home Bristol rovers cup game and he cost us.I think we miss Jamie Hanson badly. He has the skill to unlock defences like Accrington’s, his pace, and acceleration would of run them ragged. I also think he would of scored from the little opportunities we had. His distribution and set pieces always find a team mate, and I think the sooner he’s back the better.
Not sure anyone thinks things are always great nor analysing when things don't work out is an issue.. The problem as i see it is that it gets tiresome when it's evident some posters dislike the manager or certain players who then jump onto a thread after a defeat seemingly eager to offer more criticism but rarely praise after a win.Exactly right. To expand on your last point, there are some posters of cpurse whonare negative but also there are some whonare overly positive. Saying "here come the moaners" every time we lose and insisting everything is great at all times helps absolutely no one.
If all else fails call on HobsonIs Hobson part of the recruitment team?
WhooshI am not sure about your view of Hanson. Apart from a couple of games most of the comments regarding Hanson have been unflattering. I was at the home Bristol rovers cup game and he cost us.
Of course, being too entrenched either way isn't helpful. It seems to be a societal thing now where changing your opinion is frowned on and then it becomes a them vs us sort of thing with almost any issue you can think of.Not sure anyone thinks things are always great nor analysing when things don't work out is an issue.. The problem as i see it is that it gets tiresome when it's evident some posters dislike the manager or certain players who then jump onto a thread after a defeat seemingly eager to offer more criticism but rarely praise after a win.
Perhaps opinions would be respected more if there was evidence of some balance throughout the season.
As an individual perhaps being reliant solely on Ifollow means i watch in a completely relaxed mode and find it easier to try and offer some balance these days.
Got me!! Must try to be sharper....Whoosh
Must be a relation of David Kemp!!
I think when building your 22 outfield player squad (They don’t include GKs) you should be able to select 2 outfield sides. Just like we can in goal with Stevens/Eastwood.
Currently I see it like this.
Long Moore McNally Seddon
Henry Kane Brannagan
Sykes Taylor Browne
____ ____ ____ ____
Bodin Gorrin McGuane
Whyte Baldock Holland
We don’t have any specialist back up for our starting back 4. The only cover you could claim is Brown who’s just come on loan but he’s now out for a while supposedly. Even the fact Gorrin is out for the season wasn’t addressed in Jan.
Instead of the the specialist 4 players (RB, CB, CB, LB) we have filled the spots with Winnall, Forde, Williams, Hanson, Mousinho, *Brown*.
Except that we don`t play with a standard RB/LB so bringing one in would be a pointless luxury.
Brown was/is supposed to be cover for Seddon at LWB.
With the EFL squad limit of 22, two to a position with additional depth provided by under 21's, that are exempt from said rule, seems like a rational way to divide this.
Lets compare that to the actual squad:
LB - Seddon / ?
CB - Brown/ Moore / McNally / Mous
RB - Long / Forde
Instantly it's clear we are lacking specialist LB cover.
Counter argument #1, Long can play left back.
This currently weakens our RB position as well, whilst also weakening LB by playing a player out of position, on his weak foot.
Counter argument #2, a CB can cover LB.
Due to the way that KR uses his full back to overload the opposition's midfield / defence, this limits how we attack down our left hand side, meaning oppositions know we will be attacking mainly down our right instead and adjust accordingly.
Our CB'S;
So of our four CB's, we have two clear first choice, one currently unknown quantity that has had an indifferent start and a player that has had 5 appearances in the league totalling 43 minutes in the season by Feb.
- A very talented, promising but green\raw player in McNally.
- A 35 year old player who recently had knee surgery, that despite being our only fit CB didn't get brought on with 35 minutes to go, in Mous.
(It will say more than I, this forum, or even KR ever could about how the club really see Mous this weekend should Brown not be fit.)- A loanee, that his own fan's questioned & has so far not done any thing to disprove these rumors, looking shaky in both games.
(though no decision can be made yet as he may not be fully match sharp / fit, so judgement MUST wait)- A championship calibre defender, that will ultimately end up there.
At RB, over a season as back up ford will make mistakes that lead to goals, which in turn will cost points. For the odd game as cover he is fine, a third choice emergency player. To go into a season without specialist full back cover on either side is negligence.
Your notion that this situation is just down to bad luck is wilfully ignorant or naïve at best.
This situation was created by KR building an imbalanced squad in the summer, and compounded by lack of defensive signings in January.
If you think there is no creed in anything I have said just look at the numerical data, despite having four places in defence we only have 7 players (Seddon, Moore, Long, McNally, Forde, Brown, Mousinho), in contrast to the three attacking position we have 9 players (Taylor, Sykes, Henry, Whyte, Holland, Williams, Bodin, Winnall, Baldock).
We can not expect to have to score 2+ goals in every game to win them.
(I wont even get into having only one CDM at the club, as this post is long enough already).
I would assume not everyone lives on this forum, unlike some.
When we win they go happily on with their lives, and when we lose they like to be analytical; discussing & debating what went wrong, as a form of cathartic release.
I would also assume the reverse to be true for people as well.
Nothing wrong with this.
We're not quite doing that well - we've got 53 points from 30 games which is an average of 1.76 points a game.
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However, match our current PPG for the rest of the season we'll be sat very happily on 81 points at the end of the season which would put us comfortably into the playoffs, and in three of the last 10 seasons would have us as high as 3rd, although you have to go back to 05/06 for the last time it was enough for autos and it certainly won't be enough this year with Wigan and Rotherham both fairly comfortably over 2 ppg thus far.
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A win tonight will be a big step towards that!
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As convincing an argument for bringing in a LB as ive heard all day tbf.
Seriously, you are building a team in your head with the parameters you want
and are not taking into account KR`s style of play or how he sets up his team.