Manager/Coach KREXIT: The 'Robbo Out' thread.

[Yellow River]

From the OUFC official site.

COACHING STAFF

Head Coach Karl Robinson

Football Advisor Derek Fazackerley

Assistant Manager Craig Short

First Team Coach Leon Blackmore-Such

Goalkeeping Coach Wayne Brown

Youth Team Coaches
Chris Hackett
Pablo Haysham

Interesting that Faz is listed one below Robinson.
I‘ve no idea if his position of ‘Football Advisor’ is something new or not.

 

[Nadi-]

Was in that photo of at Bolton
A row and a few seats away from Robinson

 

[Horse]

Isn’t Faz just another person KR can control?
I’m not convinced by the results either. Port vale missed sitters that could have given them the game. Same last night. We’re on a run of good luck, not form.

 

[werthersoriginal]

Isn’t Faz just another person KR can control?
I’m not convinced by the results either. Port vale missed sitters that could have given them the game. Same last night. We’re on a run of good luck, not form.

We were clearly much more like our old selves against Vale, the difference was striking. I agree that they missed some sitters but we ended up good value for the win albeit with a flattering score line.

 

[Yellow River]

Yes. He is occasionally at games. But he’s not usually “on the grass” in branded training gear on non-matchdays, when he lives nearly 200 miles away. The man is supposed to be effectively retired and in his seventies.

It’s good that we are using every resource available to get things back on track. It merely makes me smile because I know that somebody’s ego will be bruised in the process.

I’ve never met the man but get the feeling that Faz although being very supportive (I think he’s always had a coaching/assistant role) he’s not a ‘yes’ man, and that can only be a good thing.

Perhaps a more prominent role for Faz and the appointment of Kinniburgh is a Tim Williams initiative?

 

[BDJ]

First of all - as I’ve said on the previous post - I’m not a JR supporter - but I struggle to get my head round all this. Karl has a voice, a contract and - I suspect, a significant ego. Is he just going to step aside and let someone else take over coaching the team? Is nobody at RO or the OM picking up on this if true? It’s quite significant if someone else is taking up first team coaching duties from the - erm - first team coach…

What's this got to do with the hospital?

 

[Steve Gilbert]

Isn’t Faz just another person KR can control?
I’m not convinced by the results either. Port vale missed sitters that could have given them the game. Same last night. We’re on a run of good luck, not form.

When does an unbeaten run become good form rather than luck?

In the unbeaten run we have put 3 past Bolton at their place and 4 against Port Vale who everyone said beforehand were a well an organised side.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

When does an unbeaten run become good form rather than luck?

In the unbeaten run we have put 3 past Bolton at their place and 4 against Port Vale who everyone said beforehand were a well an organised side.

When we enter the top 6

 

[TailsWeWin]

When does an unbeaten run become good form rather than luck?

In the unbeaten run we have put 3 past Bolton at their place and 4 against Port Vale who everyone said beforehand were a well an organised side.

But hasn’t KR been claiming that bad “luck” has been the reason for our atrocious start to the season? He never claimed it was simply a “run of bad form.”
Unsurprisingly.

 

[m]

So let me get this straight...

Our former coach Derek Fazackerly has returned to his former coaching role, and has been taking training for the last few weeks, and this has coincided with an upturn in results?

If this true, then what does this tell us all, and who should the praise really be going to for our recent improvement on the pitch?

Everyone at the club should get the praise obviously.

 

[Mellowyellow]

When does an unbeaten run become good form rather than luck?

In the unbeaten run we have put 3 past Bolton at their place and 4 against Port Vale who everyone said beforehand were a well an organised side.

I think its that we have been lucky to have played teams that haven't taken their chances. Even looking back at the BBC highlights today, at the end of the game, Woking had two really good chances, which if taken would have put even more pressure on kr, if we had gone out of the cup to a non league side. Even more so with this recent information of Faz lightening his load.

 

[Mellowyellow]

Of course, if Karl has asked for/identified a need for help and been given it that is a good thing.

If it's been forced because there are challenges and concerns then of course that's a different matter.

I cannot see under any circumstances how someone who likes to keep control, would voluntarily ask for someone to take over training responsibilities. It goes along the same grain as Stevie.K coming in as Academy lead, where robinson openly admitted he wasn't involved in the recruitment of him, but agreed they were both strong minded.

 

[Mellowyellow]

Who else wanted to sign Sam Baldock on a two year deal? Who else wanted to sign Josh Murphy on a two year deal with no strings attached, with massive wages and a hefty signing on fee for him and his agent? Who else wanted to bring Findlay back from the bench in Philadelphia and give him a four year deal on very large wages for a centre back at this level? I would big up the guy who sorted me out in those circumstances. Wouldn’t you?

Several players specifically didn’t sign (or re-sign in some cases) because they don’t like him, just as some of them said they like him. That happens with every manager at every club to some extent, some more than others, but that includes him. He’s just a football manager.

This thread will go in circles until the day he’s booted out. People who love him crowing over every victory and people who don’t banging their heads against the wall every time he cocks it up. And at the end of it all, season after season, we’ll be right back where we started. In League One, talking about how we’re a midfielder and a couple of full backs away from #GoingForIt

It is what it is.

It will continue to be ground hog day, every season until the board suddenly take an interest in on the field matters and realise we are stagnating under robinson.

 

[tonto]

Well I did think we were stagnating under Karl but Im beginning to change my mind. The team is starting to click Anderson Bate Goodrham Bodin and Odonkor are really showing some serious ability to add to our existing quality and theres no doubt they are giving 100% for KR. Im getting a bit positive about this season!

 

[Steve Gilbert]

I think its that we have been lucky to have played teams that haven't taken their chances. Even looking back at the BBC highlights today, at the end of the game, Woking had two really good chances, which if taken would have put even more pressure on kr, if we had gone out of the cup to a non league side. Even more so with this recent information of Faz lightening his load.

On that basis then, the games we have lost, the opposition have been lucky we didn’t take our chances.
Only 1 of the games that we have lost, the other team had more shots than us (Plymouth). All the others we have had more shots than the other team.

 

[tonto]

There is no doubt that Karl has his faults, his treatment of Agyei and probably others was terrible. Yet he does have ability to produce teams who play very good football (eventually!). For the sake of OUFC I want him to succeed lets hope....

 

[Thomas/Brock/Jones]

Thing is Henry's sitter at Brizzle Rovers , Kyle Joseph's against Plymouth, hitting both posts against MK , Losing to wyc who only had one shot out of nothing . It works both ways and have to be balanced when saying who has missed chances in matches.
We are playing better and seem to be settling.
No excuses for poor start or dreadful transfer window .

 

[The mighty Aldo]

I don’t think the manager always does all the coaching? Sounds good if Karl is getting more help, he’s been frazzled recently. Isn’t that what people here have wanted?

Sir Alex Ferguson didn’t get involved in much coaching

Not that I’m comparing him to KR

 

[The mighty Aldo]

I think its that we have been lucky to have played teams that haven't taken their chances. Even looking back at the BBC highlights today, at the end of the game, Woking had two really good chances, which if taken would have put even more pressure on kr, if we had gone out of the cup to a non league side. Even more so with this recent information of Faz lightening his load.

Equally we should have taken chances v Plymouth Wycombe Peterborough and Morecambe but we missed a few sitters

Last season we were really fortunate that teams missed a few sitters and we went on to win. Sometimes it goes with you and sometimes it doesn’t
Also depends when teams miss opportunities if it’s before we can score it’s alright but if they do take chances it changes whole new game

 

[Mad Dog]

Everyone at the club should get the praise obviously.

Really?

So we have a manager who built a pathetically unbalanced squad of unfit, injury prone players, some of which were also well known to be difficult to work with, and the same manager also failed to even fill the available squad places.

We start the season, with most of those injury prone players injured, and players who were known to be difficult to work with, now apparently not fancying it, and not being mentally right to play, and our manager also alienates two players, who have seemingly been fit and available for selection.

The same manager and his current coach have had us playing awful for the first half of the season, hovering just above the relegation zone, and looking like a league two side, bereft of confidence and any form or ideas.

The same manager then repeatedly blames bad luck, and every man and his dog, for all of our injuries and failings this season, whilst arrogantly refusing to take any of the blame himself, as usual.

Then we bring in a retired former coach, who takes training for a number of weeks, which immediately coincides with an upturn in our form and results, and we now sit in 12th place, 5 points off the playoffs.

But you think everyone at the club should get the praise for this improvement, including our manager and coach, who up until our former coach returned, were steering us towards certain relegation, with some of the worst football seen here in years?



I had no idea Faz had returned, and was now taking training, but now I know this, I think it's pretty obvious who deserves the lion's share of the praise, and it's only strengthened my opinion, that our current manager, and the backroom team that he has assembled, are not good enough.