National News First 100 days of Boris..........

Essexyellows said:
Why should society subsidise everyone else? There is always someone at the bottom of the pile and somebody at the top....its been like that for millenia.
You can not have "one size fits all" in life, its tough but its true!
Yes, adjust their lifestyle or change things within their control but expect others to subsidise them........... no sirreee!
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a caring and civilized society looks after its most vulnerable .... actually change that, a caring and civilized society should look after its most vulnerable. Its not a case of expecting others to subsidise them, anyone who has worked has contributed via National insurance and taxes when times are good reasonable, its not subsidising if youre laid off work or made redundant through no fault of your own, youve paid in to the system, therefore the system should, rightly IMO, help people out under those and broadly similar circumstances
 
I think it might be "a caring and civilised society would look after it's most vulnerable" to be linguistically exact, @Sarge, like: it's not an option. Another example - "What's your opinion on English civilisation, Mr Cannell?" "I would be in favour of some."
 
I wasn`t saying we should not look after the most vunerable.

Yes - have a safety net (not a career choice).
Yes - If you have paid In you can take Out.

No - if you are going to sit on the sofa all day expecting others to fund you.
No - If you haven`t paid In you can`t take out. (notable exceptions for people who are unable/incapable of work).

Above all encourage people to make their lives better by rewarding work...
 
Pete Burrett said:
Which would be accepted as fair by most, I would think.

But that's different to purely advocating self-reliance as a way out of relative poverty. It has been suggested on this thread that if 'my' delivery driver doesn't like their circumstances they should get another job instead, perhaps moving elsewhere in the country.

In my view, their 'safety net' should not necessarily come in the form of benefits from the public purse, but a guaranteed true minimum hourly wage that's not circumvented by self employed status, or zero hours contracts or any other machinations designed to stack the odds in favour of the more unscrupulous amongst employers.
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Or importing poorly paid workers from other EU countries to undercut "Mrs "Self Employed" ?

As earlier, where ever HMG legislate somebody finds a way around it.............. often those who helped develop the legislation....
 
Essexyellows said:
Or importing poorly paid workers from other EU countries to undercut "Mrs "Self Employed" ?

As earlier, where ever HMG legislate somebody finds a way around it.............. often those who helped develop the legislation. ....
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In recent times its usually the sinister Dominic Cummings Ive heard ?;)
 
Essexyellows said:
Or importing poorly paid workers from other EU countries to undercut "Mrs "Self Employed" ?

As earlier, where ever HMG legislate somebody finds a way around it.............. often those who helped develop the legislation....
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But earlier you were saying unemployment is at an all time low in this country. And we’re still in the EU, and have been, ‘importing’ these hordes of low paid foreigns undercutting our good honest English workers. So how does that work? It’s almost as if you pick and choose your arguments to fit your world view...
 
Frankenstein food on the horizon it is then ....

sciencebusiness.net/news/boris-johnson-vows-ditch-eu-rules-gm-crops?fbclid=IwAR2zEbjGUHU8gB4R4yvGG2mACCoyle8Pwp-obl7x4jGIZ684QPtOz97tP0g
 
HampshireYellow said:
But earlier you were saying unemployment is at an all time low in this country. And we’re still in the EU, and have been, ‘importing’ these hordes of low paid foreigns undercutting our good honest English workers. So how does that work? It’s almost as if you pick and choose your arguments to fit your world view...
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If we hadn`t imported folk and paid a decent wage the work will still be there to be done.......... and those hard up folk would be earning a better wage..... and the "employed" percentage would probably be higher...
 
no surprise there, never mind, Johnson will make the disabled pay instead ....

sadly the link to Financial Times story re Shell paying no corporate tax in the UK in 2018 isn't working/ cut n pasting...
its on the FT.com website where it can be viewed
 
I see Richard Burgon was unable to say Corbyn was a problem - almost hilarious how he's filibustered around the point ever since the election. The Sun, blah, blah, Media, blah, blah, Boris, blah, blah. Modest Labour supporters should sigh that people like him have such a position in the party. Makes Chris Grayling look intelligent and thoughtful.

And good old Lady Nugee is running for the leadership too. What a wonderful Christmas present for all :sick:

As for Boris, good to see the Nurse's Bursary is coming back and they have at least kept one promise! (y)
 
Gary Baldi said:
I see Richard Burgon was unable to say Corbyn was a problem - almost hilarious how he's filibustered around the point ever since the election. The Sun, blah, blah, Media, blah, blah, Boris, blah, blah. Modest Labour supporters should sigh that people like him have such a position in the party. Makes Chris Grayling look intelligent and thoughtful.
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Richard Burgon and Emily Thornberry are the exact sort of people who will ensure Labour disappear as a genuine choice for the next decade. I’ve always maintained that idiots aren’t actually the biggest threat to society - it’s idiots who don’t REALISE that they’re idiots who are the biggest hazard. And those smug, self-satisfied arseholes are absolutely part of that category. Deluded doesn’t even begin to describe them.
 
Crack on Boris.................. (y)

"Although read by the sovereign, the Speech is written by the government. The programme, due to be announced at 11.40 GMT, is expected to contain the following measures:

  • Plans for an Australian-style points-based immigration system from 1 January 2021
  • New post-Brexit regulatory regimes for trade, farming, fishing, financial services and the environment
  • Increased custodial sentences of up to five years for animal cruelty
  • Action to tackle the unlawful use of drones in commercial airspace
  • Reforms to ensure fairer sharing of tips among restaurant workers
  • Plans for full fibre and gigabit broadband coverage across the UK by 2025
  • Amendments to the Human Rights Act to protect British troops from 'vexatious' legal claims
  • Legislation to ensure a minimum level of service during train strikes
  • A 50% business rate discount for small firms, including independent cinemas and music venues
Mr Johnson has said his number one domestic priority is the NHS in England, which he has claimed is in line for the "largest cash injection in its history".

The NHS Long Term Plan Bill will enshrine in law the government's commitment to spend an extra £33.9bn in cash per year by 2023-4.

It will also include a plan to fast-track visas for qualified health professionals, make it easier for hospitals to manufacture and trial innovative medicines, and scrap hospital car parking charges "for those in greatest need".

The PM's commitment amounts to a 3.4% year-on-year increase in expenditure, a significant increase on what the NHS received during the five year Tory-Lib Dem coalition government as well as under his predecessors David Cameron and Theresa May."
 
Still less of an increase than Labour were spending on the NHS between 2005-2009 when inflation is factored in ;)
 
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