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flat pitch = hard work for Archer?
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Well that turned into another disaster then, bad call to put them in as was suggested at the time. Work cut out already to salvage the series.
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If Stokes is only partially fit and unable to bowl, why play him? Crass stupidity and arrogance from us.
Needed to play a spinner. Good chance for Crawley and Pope to make an impression.
I am highly dubious of Root’s captaincy credentials. Give it to Denly or Broad IMO.
Needed to play a spinner. Good chance for Crawley and Pope to make an impression.
I am highly dubious of Root’s captaincy credentials. Give it to Denly or Broad IMO.
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agree , Root isnt all that as a Test captain
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He’s also our most potent weapon with the bat. When will we learn that giving the best player the biggest role is counterproductive? Board or Denly are more measured, older and less inclined to make rash decisions.
An example of Root’s attitude is his bowling of Archer. WTF is going on?
An example of Root’s attitude is his bowling of Archer. WTF is going on?
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Root will remain as captain unless there is a total disaster in Tests. Don't forget Silverwood is a Yorkie and has already talked about the next Ashes with Root as captain. I agree though that his batting has dipped and some of his captaincy is poor at times.
Woakes in particular had bad luck with two very marginal lbw reviews against Latham. Taylor was out plum lbw to Broad early in his innings but was given not out on review because two noises were picked up. The snicko didn't even sync with the ball passing the bat, it was his foot scraping the ground!!
David Lloyd was doing his nut at the decision.
Woakes in particular had bad luck with two very marginal lbw reviews against Latham. Taylor was out plum lbw to Broad early in his innings but was given not out on review because two noises were picked up. The snicko didn't even sync with the ball passing the bat, it was his foot scraping the ground!!
David Lloyd was doing his nut at the decision.
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Test cricket IS different to short over forms of the game....decent ODI and T20 players are not necessarily capable of making the step up to 'proper' cricket
and Root, for me , is not a test captain
come on England
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Burns and Sibley need matches. Dropping either now would be a mistake. I’m very excited to see Zack Crawley play. My personal view, having watched him play for Kent (so yes, I’m biased) is that he could well go on to become a world class opener.
We have the talent, we need to play proper test cricket to unlock it.
We have the talent, we need to play proper test cricket to unlock it.
Whilst I don't disagree with your criticism of Root, and the lack of a spinner....
....the reason you pay Stokes even if he can't bowl, is that he's now arguably our best Test batsman!
He was the top run scorer in the first Test, and scored the most runs at the highest average of any England batsman in the Ashes.
When you're going into a Test with a batting lineup that includes one debutant (Crawley), one guy in his second Test (Burns), and three others that have only a handful of games (Denly, Burns, Pope) then you absolutely definitely need Stokes in there - even if he can can't be your all-rounder.
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I see your point but...
He’s injured. Clearly injured. Quite apart from the risk of making it worse, what does playing an injured team member actually say to the rest of the squad? I love Stokes but he should not be playing in this test.
He’s injured. Clearly injured. Quite apart from the risk of making it worse, what does playing an injured team member actually say to the rest of the squad? I love Stokes but he should not be playing in this test.
Not only that, but he is now our highest ranked test batsman anyway.
https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/player-rankings/test/batting
As an aside, if ever there's been proof that cricket should do away with the frankly awful Kookaburra ball and all nations adopt the Dukes, has anyone seen the Aus v Pak series? Flat track bully Warner's test scores since returning from his ban now read:
2, 8, 3, 5, 61, 0, 0, 0, 5, 11, 154, 335*
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Decent batting overnight, Burns continues to look to have the temperament for test match cricket and lovely to see Root get a ton. It makes a difference having at least one opener who can, errrr, open the batting. Makes the Roy experiment look even more stupid in the summer.
Stokes will arguably bowl less in the next few years as his body struggles with the workload, but the batting is just so calm and thoughtful that I doubt England will be adversely affected.
Stokes will arguably bowl less in the next few years as his body struggles with the workload, but the batting is just so calm and thoughtful that I doubt England will be adversely affected.
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definitely better batting, so far, in this test from England
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Yes it's a shame they didn't pick Burns as Cook's partner three years ago when he was topping the batting averages. Instead they experimented and went back to Jennings three times!! And why didn't they pick him? Because he had an unorthodox stance/style!! He has always had the temperament for the longer game.
I can see Stokes becoming a batter who can bowl a bit.
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