Transfer targets?

Maybe. I am a bit jaundiced re Thomas. I've seen him a few times this season being kicked by L1 centre halves and clearly not liking it. I just think we can do better. I keep thinking that KR will persuade McAleny to come down south but I am sure he won't!
Dempsey from Fleetwood is player he tried hard to sign for Charlton Summer 2017. Talented midfielder. I would him & McAleny
 
24, only a year left, enjoying playing football here. I don't think Chelsea will demand a big fee for a loaned out RB with no hope of hitting the first team. Look at the price we paid for Brannagan and he'd actually played for the first team.

I've got a feeling he'll sign on permanently.
His agent is regular visitor on match days. I see lots of discussions with Todd, his family and the agent. Deal about to be agreed? I think so.
 
Your point on Mehmeti sounds very similar to what people said about Hoban. Sometimes it just doesn’t work out for various reasons - that’s where we are in my view and would be very surprised to see him here next season.
Er. I think the poor bloke had a serious injury before he could get going. I dont think it was meant to be. I feel for Agon & PEP. Pep had ZERO luck in this aspect.
 
Those who have been on this site for a number of years, will know exactly where any "love-in" of mine stands - and that is with ALL of those young lads who come through our youth setup. I worked in the U's yOUth group to protect the whole youth system from Kassam, and to keep it functioning at all in the Conference years where outside grants all dried up, so that there was something there to be revived when the Lenagans came in.
My aim and desire is to ensure that these guys get the opportunity to develop their skills beyond graduation from the U18s, with OUFC if at all possible, and to support them through that difficult transition from scholar through to senior, which it seems a lot of people believe to be a lot simpler than it actually is.
It is perhaps the nature of the world today to sit at the far end of an internet link and judge the world in simplistic black and white terms, where being the first to pronounce a verdict is more important than actually reaching a sound conclusion, and where outrage has replaced opinion and vitriol has replaced debate and open discussion.
So, I just try to state their case for them in the face of the brash, brutal and at times disrespectful comments they receive on here, and just try to remind people that it is a very difficult time for them making that breakthrough, even if they don't suffer any major setbacks such as injury or family issues.

Many people are quick to state they want more of our own to come through, but some are equally quick to pronounce that they are not good enough the second they stick their head above the parapet and actually make the first team, as though there seems to be some sort of credit or kudos to be gained for being the first to do so. Do those on here who have already concluded that Napa will not make it due to his build got such short memories that they don't remember exactly the same being said of Callum O'Dowda only a couple of years ago?
And this short term, instant gratification mentality that is so prevalent nowadays almost demands that any player that has not progressed at the same pace that Wayne Rooney did is never going to make it as a professional footballer. Sadly, there was an era where finances forced the club to employ such a view with graduates offered only 12 or even 6 months to make an impression in the first team before being discarded with many great prospects doomed into the depths of non-league before even getting a chance to succeed - Rob Lovegrove, Ben Weedon, Tom Franklin, Tom Winters, Andy Gunn, just to name a very few (and the same could well have happened to COD and Napa in that era).
Now thankfully, that era has gone, but the club has edged backwards in this respect over the last couple of years, with I feel a lot of those out on loan suffering from an out of sight, out of mind attitude from some within the club, let alone supporters. Therefore talk of the revival of the dev squad has got to be good news, with youngsters working within the fold as well as without. Loans have their place in development, but are not the be all and end all, and there needs to be more going on here, so that fringe players are not just marooned without a game to play for weeks on end (eg Josh ashby).

So, I feel the need to stress the longer term view, that having put the effort into bringing these youngsters through the age groups, they should all be given a decent time to bridge the gap into the seniors, because once the leave, so many are lost forever, because so few that drop into non-league ever make it back into league football again. When a player leaves us at 19 or 20, they are rarely on the radar of clubs much outside of the county (as thsoe clubs have their own local pro teams to focus on), so most will end up playing locally, which up until the rise of City, Brackley into the Conference setup, has meant dropping three or four levels, which in turn means having to look for other work alongside football and inevitably becoming maroooned at that level. It takes a special set of circumstances, and a massive dose of luck to maintain yourself at a decent level and get that opportunity to get back into League football. For instance, Alex Fisher had financial backing from his family to chase across Europe to get pro-football, while the likes of Matt Taylor and James Clarke - both now established football league players, got their chance by being in the right place at the right time with promotions (as has Ty Marsh now at Macclesfield) and former managers picking them up. Many that we have let go, that were arguably of their standard or better, didnt get these chances and eventually had to settle for where they were.

But it is the fact that if we can back these guys, give them the time to develop alongside but not entirely in the cauldron of senior football, then we may see more of them develop into first team players for OUFC. And it is THAT thought that means that I will continue to promote the likes of Sam Long, Josh Ashby, James Roberts et al, particularly when they have all their lives and careers severely disrupted in one way or another - Ashby and Long have serious injuries, while Roberts faced his own tragedy at a crucial point in his life and career. And again, I think that some people overlook the psychological impact of such situations on younger players still trying to gain a foothold in the industry. For the likes of Long and Ashby,recovery from a broken leg or cruciate injury is not just the time it takes for the physical injury to heal, but the additonal time to get back up to speed both mentally and physically given the more sporadic nature of the games they get to play in - that is why Long getting a sustained spell at Hampton is so important. As for Roberts, then most of us can only guess at the impact of his particular situation can have on a 19 year old boy, and the disgraceful way that some dismissed this by parroting "attitude problems" as a means for writing him off was horrible to read. Personally, I would completely discount the last couple of seasons in terms of assessing his actual future in the game, and as I said earlier, what started out promisingly at Guiseley was sadly derailed by a change of approach from a new manager who made it clear that he was not interested in loanees who were not going to be there next season.

Then finally, there is the impact of individuals at the club. Kassam made it very difficult for anyone, the Lenagans opened the door to a generation who are slowly proving their worth. Wilder was not great, Appleton was better, Clotet was very supportive, though I understand Faz was a lot less so inclined. Hopefully, Robinson will make his own decisions on this front and the revival of the Dev squad will also generate a new impetus for the next generation coming through.

Whether it is too late for some of the now older ones to still make it at OUFC, and maybe it is time for the likes of Long, Roberts and Ashby to move on, but I still think it is wrong to write them off completely, as so many seem so willing to do, because I believe all three have careers ahead of them in the top 4/5 levels of English football and that for me is cause for celebration.

Didnt mean that to be quite as lengthy as it has turned out to be, but if you can't get passionate about the things you 'love' then............???




Thank You Mooro,

Very interesting and thought provoking read.
 
..especially as the new manager at Guisely basically froze out the two loanees he had in the squad (Roberts and Crook from Forest) as soon as he took over as he wanted to focus on those players who were going to be there the following season. Forest recalled their man, but Faz left Roberts there to rot, rather than bring him back, in the same way he's left Ashby to rot with the youth team, rather than train with the seniors. He may have made the difference up front (he knew where the goal was when he first came into the squad), he may not have done, but as Yellows1 says, at least we'd have known! Guess we'll just be watching how they do elsewhere next season, as we have with Taylor, Fisher and others.

If we are going to revive the U23s/Dev squad next season (and I hope we do), we need to make sure Faz isnt anywhere near it
I really appreciate the insight. I thank you.
 
Yes that's what I recall KR saying, post Donny game on Radio Oxford
Reminds me of Mapp when he looked around the dressing room after 1-5 L2 cambridge deat on sky asked the team he inherited how many had gained promotion/be winners Not many hands went up.
 
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Mmm. I somehow suspect that Roberts especially will have nowhere near the desire that Taylor has had to make it.

Roberts has had a load of chances with different managers. He appeared to have annoyed MAPP with his attitude. Pep gave him a chance. Faz appears to have not rated him.

Add to that his stints at particularly Oxford City. If he was going to make it I suspect that he would have torn that league apart. Taylor dropped down the leagues and scored bucket full of goals. He was bloody minded, totally determined as shown when he went from Rovers to City.

I am sure that all OUFC fans would have loved to have seen Roberts fulfil his early potential. Unlike Matt Taylor, he was given a load of chances at OUFC.
To be fair Taylor went to North Leigh and scored 40 goals in Hellenic League = confidence. Joined FGR who had just been bought by ecocrity multi-millionaire. Rest is history. I know from NL owners he has fantastic attitude, @ step 8/9 of football pyramid, rare quality/was v confident in his ability. Made his own luck???
 
In the league this year he has scored 5 goals in 30 games. That is one in six. I don't think he is being 'targeted' at all - I would have been absolutely delighted if he had been a huge success wherever he had previously played. People always say a player is bring made a scapegoat when he get criticised for under-performing.
I am dyslexic.
 
I have to say I do feel sorry for both Obika and Thomas. As someone rightly said, Jack Payne was assisting for fun earlier in the season, it took until KR arrived for that void to be replaced by Henry - who in turn is bagging the goals that will keep us up.

The unfortunate criticism of both Obika and Thomas stems from a side that has no width, no pace and seems unable to cross a football into the area - as has been pointed out by the manager on several occasions since his arrival. Starve your strikers of service and they won't score goals.

Now the boo-boys have got no one to target now Gino sits on the bench, they've re-directed their anger to Obika. The ironic cheering when he headed a ball or three in the second half on Saturday was the only criticism of the day for me. When will people understand firing long high balls to a striker with no one around him, isn't likely to end productively?

Obika’s still s**t Simon, but I agree that fans shouldn’t have cheered when he finally headed a ball, but can understand why they did.

I like Thomas, but think he’s past his sell by date.
 
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Obika’s still s**t Simon, but I agree that fans shouldn’t have cheered when he finally headed a ball, but can understand why they did.

I like Thomas, but think he’s past his sell by date.
I dont agree with any of the comments. But I like a debate with a measured, considered and intelligent individual, which I know sadly isnt you.
 
Your point on Mehmeti sounds very similar to what people said about Hoban. Sometimes it just doesn’t work out for various reasons - that’s where we are in my view and would be very surprised to see him here next season.
Er. I think the poor bloke had a serious injury before he could get going. I dont think it was meant to be. I feel for Agon & PEP. Pep had ZERO luck in this aspect.

Yes that’s fair.

I’m only basing my view on what I’ve seen off him after returning to fitness. It could of course be argued that he still hasn’t managed to get himself match fit but he has been back in the playing squad for a little while now and hasn’t really made an impact.

As with my comment earlier in relation to Obika, I’ll continue to support him whenever he plays for us. However I do think it’s likely he’ll be off in the Summer if KR is able to do so.
 
I’d like us to go for Oztumer.
So would I !
But cannot see it unfortunately
Has been in L1 team of the year two years running which is very impressive considering how poor Walsall are. He'll be in the Championship. Birmingham City are interested apparently
 
Was slightly surprised to hear KR on the radio this morning saying he is hoping to tie up a couple of Loan signings. Loans? Already?
 
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