Manager/Coach KREXIT: The 'Robbo Out' thread.

[Wallop]

Swine!

Now now, he left the tea and biscuits.

 

[battman]

Robinson has been speaking with this "new" consortium for three years!! I think if he wasn't in their plans he would have been long gone by now.

It'll be interesting to see how much day-to-day involvement the likes of Thohir, Geike and Bakrie will have if they have more of a financial stake in the club itself. If they're putting all this money into a new stadium and we're floundering about in the middle of League One and not getting bums on seats, there'll probably come a point where they'll want to change things to bring in more money to the club.

Karl may have set himself up for a fall with this 'top 30 in the next 5 years' talk, I think he knows where the owners will want to go but I don't think he'll have the ability to get there when the pressure's on.

 

[horseman]

Every manager knows the score and despite what many are saying on here the guy deserves the opportunity

 

[Mellowyellow]

Unpopular opinion but I hope Robinson stays and although some of his decisions come off baffling sometimes I personally think the amount he cares about the club as a whole and with all the changes that were made in the summer (not his choice) he deserves time

After recent results and performances, team selections, happy to be 0-0 against a relegation threatened team after 60 seconds, having had 3 years in charge and achieved not a great deal?

Lets hope the new owners set their short term goals a little higher than standing still for 3 years.

 

[Mellowyellow]

Yes!! I was angry/frustrated with the last couple of games with the team never looking as they’re going to score. But what is all this rubbish about ‘Robbo out’ out. We are just 3 points off the playoff for goodness sake. Several of our key players are either injured or off form. Let’s give him a break. No I’m not Robinson, as someone sarcastically said a couple of months ago when I ventured to put something on this forum. I’ve been a supporter of this club for over 50 years.

Calm down karl, calm down mate, eh, eh!

 

[horseman]

After recent results and performances, team selections, happy to be 0-0 against a relegation threatened team after 60 seconds, having had 3 years in charge and achieved not a great deal?

Lets hope the new owners set their short term goals a little higher than standing still for 3 years.

i'll say it again HMRC uncle firoz on our case forced to sell when promotion was in touching distance, still made play off final and currently 3 pts from being in the mix which is where most thought we would be this season.

 

[Mellowyellow]

i'll say it again HMRC uncle firoz on our case forced to sell when promotion was in touching distance, still made play off final and currently 3 pts from being in the mix which is where most thought we would be this season.

You keep saying the same point, fine we get it. That can be equalled up with:
the crocks he buys
the appalling start to the season, that will possibly cost us a promotion chance.
recent team selections
embarrassing performances, Swindon, Northampton et al.
playing players out of position so often, Clare?
Laying the blame at others door

The facts are, we have given him three years, and we have made no progress. Many managers face adversities similar to those you mention.
We were rattling buckets, to pay staff wages years ago, now that's something that might affect how a manager performs. "uncle firoz on our case," come on, did that really affect kr's ability to manage? I doubt it.

 

[tonto]

There is no doubt Karl divides opinions. Some weeks I think hes very good just the right man etc. Other weeks I just want to get rid!

 

[battman]

i'll say it again HMRC uncle firoz on our case forced to sell when promotion was in touching distance, still made play off final and currently 3 pts from being in the mix which is where most thought we would be this season.

You keep saying the same point, fine we get it. That can be equalled up with:
the crocks he buys
the appalling start to the season, that will possibly cost us a promotion chance.
recent team selections
embarrassing performances, Swindon, Northampton et al.
playing players out of position so often, Clare?
Laying the blame at others door

The facts are, we have given him three years, and we have made no progress. Many managers face adversities similar to those you mention.
We were rattling buckets, to pay staff wages years ago, now that's something that might affect how a manager performs. "uncle firoz on our case," come on, did that really affect kr's ability to manage? I doubt it.

Once you throw into the mix that horrendous display against Wycombe in the final that probably negates all the good work (and somewhat fortunate results e.g. Ruffs's last minute winner vs Shrewsbury) done to get us to there.

 

[horseman]

You keep saying the same point, fine we get it. That can be equalled up with:
the crocks he buys
the appalling start to the season, that will possibly cost us a promotion chance.
recent team selections
embarrassing performances, Swindon, Northampton et al.
playing players out of position so often, Clare?
Laying the blame at others door

The facts are, we have given him three years, and we have made no progress. Many managers face adversities similar to those you mention.
We were rattling buckets, to pay staff wages years ago, now that's something that might affect how a manager performs. "uncle firoz on our case," come on, did that really affect kr's ability to manage? I doubt it.

Let's address the crocks, it was a route Mapp went down thanks to sports science etc, some come off others may not

The appalling start..... it matters not whether the poor run is at the start middle or run in you still end up with the same pts pro rata

recent team selections... Northampton everyone is on the same page re that one BUT he is accused of no Plan B and tried something it never worked but he and the players do not deserve all this over reaction since Tuesday

2 embarrassing performances in a season it can happen

players out of position Yes Clare was a mistake but let's not forget we were unable to field a settled side for weeks due to early injuries and Missed Gorrin especially

 

[horseman]

Once you throw into the mix that horrendous display against Wycombe in the final that probably negates all the good work (and somewhat fortunate results e.g. Ruffs's last minute winner vs Shrewsbury) done to get us to there.

This keeps being said, when we lose we are a poor mid table side and when we win the opposition were poor on the day

The way things have been i would of thought folk would be happy to even have opportunity to watch a game

The over reaction to losing a game of football on Tuesday with people even stating they wont watch anymore

 

[Scotchegg]

People say that Karl and the team are "bottlers" but look at some of the comments on here? We've still got 10 games to go. We're 3 points off 6th place with a fairly decent run in after the next 2 games. So it's entirely possible that we could finish in the playoffs for the second year running, and Wycombe proved last year that anything can happen once you get there.

So we could see Robinson deliver our highest league finishes in 20 years in consecutive seasons. This is on top of developing players that have been sold for big profits as well as having the likes of Brannagan, Moore, Atkinson and others who could demand even bigger fees. He's brought in several young players through the youth system which encourages more players to join us at a younger age knowing that there's real progression into the first team.

Yes he has overseen some shockers, his selections can be questionable, and he pisses off a fair few, but in the same way we accept league 1 players to have their faults, so too do league 1 managers.

Let's just see how things go in the next few weeks before we start planning a socially distancing storming of the boardroom!!!

 

[Fred]

I still like to look on the positive side having supported the Club for decades, relatively, staying mid table in div 1 for a few years is better than most years in the last 20 years! As this season is a very unusual season I was a bit surprised when the club brought players in during the last transfer window. Although perhaps the uncertainty around all teams made the club think we could take advantage of the situation.

 

[Reynolds97]

KR seems a genuinely good bloke, handles the off field stuff really well and seems to care a lot for the fans. But imo hes made some crazy decisions this season that makes you question whether or not he could get us to the next stage:
> Robbie hall staying over clare? assume that's because of his relationship with karl?
> Playing Clare out of position and keeping Long out the team?
> Treatment of Ageyi I think has crazy summed up by Hall starting over him against Tranmere and not even making bench.
> Signing of Grayson - doesn't look good enough
> Not dropping Gorrin has looked so poor lately not impacting a game incase he gets booked.
> Kelly not good enough.
Happy to be proven wrong and win tonight tho

 

[The mighty Aldo]

KR seems a genuinely good bloke, handles the off field stuff really well and seems to care a lot for the fans. But imo hes made some crazy decisions this season that makes you question whether or not he could get us to the next stage:
> Robbie hall staying over clare? assume that's because of his relationship with karl?
> Playing Clare out of position and keeping Long out the team?
> Treatment of Ageyi I think has crazy summed up by Hall starting over him against Tranmere and not even making bench.
> Signing of Grayson - doesn't look good enough
> Not dropping Gorrin has looked so poor lately not impacting a game incase he gets booked.
> Kelly not good enough.
Happy to be proven wrong and win tonight tho

Agree with all of this
I can only assume we kept Hall was because nobody else wanted him at our level or indeed the tier below
I actually think Clare is what we have been missing and playing him in front of Long/Hanson would be really good

 

[Common Villager]

As others have said, the slow start we seem to suffer every season under Karl is probably the most justifiable reason to want him out. If he is going to be here next season he simply must get the summer recruitment right, and do it early. I know the transfer market is difficult to navigate at times and I don't begin to understand all of the complexities, but we always seem to spend the first 5 games about 5 players short. He needs to learn to move on quicker from his first choice. Throwing away points in August/September/October has cost us last season and this.

 

[Mellowyellow]

Let's address the crocks, it was a route Mapp went down thanks to sports science etc, some come off others may not

The appalling start..... it matters not whether the poor run is at the start middle or run in you still end up with the same pts pro rata

recent team selections... Northampton everyone is on the same page re that one BUT he is accused of no Plan B and tried something it never worked but he and the players do not deserve all this over reaction since Tuesday

2 embarrassing performances in a season it can happen

players out of position Yes Clare was a mistake but let's not forget we were unable to field a settled side for weeks due to early injuries and Missed Gorrin especially

There's clutching at straws karl, and there's clutching at straws.
-List all the crocks kr has brought in.
-Rubbish, in plain English if you have an appalling start like we did, then you play catch up, as opposed to a good/reasonably good start.
-There have been a number of poor team selections and poor substation decisions this season.
-Players out of position, what about Agyei, amongst others?

 

[horseman]

There's clutching at straws karl, and there's clutching at straws.
-List all the crocks kr has brought in.
-Rubbish, in plain English if you have an appalling start like we did, then you play catch up, as opposed to a good/reasonably good start.
-There have been a number of poor team selections and poor substation decisions this season.
-Players out of position, what about Agyei, amongst others?

With respect you're assuming a winning run will forever be maintained, take away let's say 5 recent wins and place them at the start of the season then we still have the same number of points...
i accept a poor start is not ideal but when it happens is that not more a mental thing from a fans point of view
..it's the number of pts over the season regardless of how or when they are obtained.
You can analyse forever for example some will say if only we hadn't conceded late at home to them down the a420 but then what if we hadn't scored in added time at Rochdale and Mk Dons.... so 3 pts v swindon 1 v rochdale o v mk dons = 4 against 0 3 and 1 also =4
I repeat, we are in or around where most thought we would be

 

[Peterdev]

I don’t think a change of manager would be the right thing to do.
We‘ve had a really good winning spell lately including seven in a row. Playing some good football. Some of the players have lost form and as a result there have been some poor results. Blackpool winning wasn’t much of a surprise given they had hit form with three successive away wins.
I was far from happy with losing at Northampton, particularly in the way we lost.
A win tonight will put us back in contention.
After our poor start we were never going to make top two. The play offs are possible but there are some very good teams on strong runs at the moment. It’s not ideal all the talk about takeovers, they only unsettle players

 

[ZeroTheHero]

With respect you're assuming a winning run will forever be maintained, take away let's say 5 recent wins and place them at the start of the season then we still have the same number of points...
i accept a poor start is not ideal but when it happens is that not more a mental thing from a fans point of view
..it's the number of pts over the season regardless of how or when they are obtained.
You can analyse forever for example some will say if only we hadn't conceded late at home to them down the a420 but then what if we hadn't scored in added time at Rochdale and Mk Dons.... so 3 pts v swindon 1 v rochdale o v mk dons = 4 against 0 3 and 1 also =4
I repeat, we are in or around where most thought we would be

I think that's not quite right.

Once you've had such a poor start to the season, it piles pressure on to the players and the manager to go on the type of run we thankfully achieved - because you have to do something like that to get out of trouble. It was a record winning run. Next season, would it be better to start the season more on the front foot or to hope we go on another record run to redress the balance? I know which I would choose, and which is IMO easier to achieve.

I do think you are right though - we are about where I thought we would be before a ball was kicked: upper midtable with some sort of chance of sneaking into the playoffs. I did not expect us to arrive at this position in the way we have though.