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What's the point wit regards this image? We've had a GE since the referendum haven't we, so MPs were elected with whatever their views on Brexit known...
What's the point wit regards this image? We've had a GE since the referendum haven't we, so MPs were elected with whatever their views on Brexit known...
The MPs clearly don’t want brexit
Their view is parliament decides whether we exit the EU, the people do not.
Obviously the voters, but the choice leaves much to be desired
In 2016, out of a population of over 64, 600,00, ..... 46,400,000 were registered to vote, ( there were about 18,100,000 were not registered or not eligible to vote), of the 46,400,000 able to vote, 17.410,462 voted to leave.... therefore considerably much less than half of 'the people' (eligible to vote) in 2016 voted to leaveYou need to read @SteMerritt 's post properly. You can't make an 'it's MPs v the people' claim, as MPs have been elected or re-elected since the referendum when their views on Brexit were already known.
(In any case, for accuracy, 'the people' didn't vote to Leave. Some of the people did).
And that is a choice I have. I don't want to vote for the Brexit party, but who else will represent a Leave view without question? If the Tories change leader again, who knows what will come in?Well we agree there.
Reflecting on the glibness of my preceding post it is a shame that more moderate 'leavers' should be forced to vote for dangerous one-trick-ponies such as the Brexit Party - however well it may serve my personal beliefs.
And that is a choice I have. I don't want to vote for the Brexit party, but who else will represent a Leave view without question? If the Tories change leader again, who knows what will come in?
Fair enough. The Lib Dems are hoovering up the other side who want to Remain, so really it's a one issue polarisation of politics that we are seeing.I don't have it in me to 'like' your post but I fully accept the point you make.
Fair enough. The Lib Dems are hoovering up the other side who want to Remain, so really it's a one issue polarisation of politics that we are seeing.
Which makes Labour's position even more flimsy and confusing. They are managing to muddle voters while the others are rushing to the poles to grab what they can. The middle ground of politics is going again
That was Russel Brand's I believe.I neither know nor care what Cameron's bio is titled, but if it's not 'The Man Who Fucked The Country' it should be.
And your proof that the EU wants to be a nation state? (And I stress PROOF, not some comment read in your favourite newspaper).
Anything British businesses export will have to adhere to EU regs, which we will no longer be helping to shape. Would it really make sense for companies to produce products for the, presumably, deregulated UK market and then produce a different product for the export market? It seems inefficient to me and I can see business just making things for the more standardised, regulated market anyway.There’s no reason why the countries in the EU can’t trade with us and be friends. It’s not all about hating others, being nasty to foreigners and erecting trade barriers.
It’s about having freedom to trade.
Possibly not, but stunts like this were given an awful lot of air time and the oxygen of publicity and not once has anyone, to my knowledge, from either leave campaign apologised for it.Pete. I can’t let you get away with the assertion that most objections to the EU in the media were based on intolerance, taking back control and racist rants. This is an incorrect observation of those who object to the EU having an increasing control of our lives.
My objection is based not on the numbers who come into the country. We need doctors, nurses and arguably footballers.
It’s not about taking back control..blasé words to be honest. It is about having more say in what happens in our country.
Just because many of us would like to be governed more by our politicians than those in Brussels does not make us more intolerant. Even though some of our politicians are not great we can at least get rid of them when there’s an election.
There’s no reason why the countries in the EU can’t trade with us and be friends. It’s not all about hating others, being nasty to foreigners and erecting trade barriers.
It’s about having freedom to trade.
I hear a lot of people complaining about the state of our country at the moment. We’ve been in the EU for 40 years...has it all been good so far?
I’m just saying parliament decides as it’s up to them whether they accept the vote or dismiss it.
It’s just advisory and they can ignore what the outcome was.
That’s parliamentary democracy for you.
It’s not about taking back control..... It is about having more say in what happens in our country.