General Very Tinpot Wycombe

[Deanroger]

I hate to say it but Wycombe are looking ominously like automatic promotion contenders this season. When they came to us I thought they looked very strong and had real presence all over the pitch. They are obviously masters of the 'dark arts' too which is frustrating but very effective. I still don't think we have enough 'muscle' and 'nastiness' in the squad to grab one of those automatic spots. Let's hope I am off the mark with this gut feeling.

 

[Isle of Wight Yellow]

It’s natural that a team that’s had a season in the Championship would look strong, I’d like to think we’d be a step stronger this season if we’d gone up instead of them - even if we’d come straight back down

 

[SteMerritt]

Meh. To be honest I'd rather they went up than Sunderland, the meltdown every time they blow promotion is just epic.

 

[EastStandKieran]

For me I don’t really care if Wycombe get promoted or get relegated they’re just another team in the league as @SteMerritt says I’d rather them get promoted than Sunderland but all I’m bothered about is where we finish after 46 games

 

[Deanroger]

Me too. All I'm saying is that they look good for an auto spot at present which could mean there will only be one left.

 

[EastStandKieran]

Me too. All I'm saying is that they look good for an auto spot at present which could mean there will only be one left.

Well if there is only 1 auto spot left then Wycombe will be finishing 2nd

 

[holdsteady]

Don’t really care about any of the other teams in this division so if we don’t go up I ain’t arsed about who does. It’s a decent level with some decent sized clubs in it and it’s much better than where we were for the 16 (?) years previously but none of the clubs really get you going this year, found myself scanning the potential FA cup first round draw for either a fun away day or a game with a bit of needle.

Not knocking the club, just we have been back at this level long enough that you get used to it and we have no real malice with any of the teams, when Wycombe even get mentioned then you know that’s true.

 

[EastStandKieran]

, found myself scanning the potential FA cup first round draw for either a fun away day or a game with a bit of needle

Now your talking fa cup when is the draw for the first round id like a team from quite far down the pyramid for a decent away day and a ground with a decent support I don’t want to draw league 1 or 2 teams not to much to ask is it

 

[holdsteady]

Now your talking fa cup when is the draw for the first round id like a team from quite far down the pyramid for a decent away day and a ground with a decent support I don’t want to draw league 1 or 2 teams not to much to ask is it

Final qualifying round is the coming weekend so Monday after that probably.

 

[Golden Dr Otto]

I am excited by Wycombes success. It’s great to see the little guy doing well and punching above their weight especially as they’re close by like Oxford City and Banbury

 

[uptheus]

I am excited by Wycombes success. It’s great to see the little guy doing well and punching above their weight especially as they’re close by like Oxford City and Banbury

I’d rather it was us than them.

 

[werthersoriginal]

As a club and entity I quite like Wycombe, small local club doing well etc, but I hate the current team and setup because they basically cheat - sneaky fouls, time wasting, etc - rather than attempting to play football. Referees need to be stronger with this sort of team.

 

[Deanroger]

Unfortunately it looks like the 'Wycombe Way' is the way to get promoted. Strength and dark arts are effective at this level.

 

[Jster]

Glad to see anyone beat Franchise tbh.

 

[Oxford84]

Unfortunately it looks like the 'Wycombe Way' is the way to get promoted. Strength and dark arts are effective at this level.

good job their way is f*****g s**t if they do go up.

 

[RgYellows]

Proper odd seeing so many Wycombe fans on here during/after a play off semi final.

 

[mooro]

Dishearteningly inevitable,,..

 

[Isle of Wight Yellow]

Meh. To be honest I'd rather they went up than Sunderland, the meltdown every time they blow promotion is just epic.

I’d for sure rather they went up over Sunderland, just for the joy of reading their forum…

 

[werthersoriginal]

I’d for sure rather they went up over Sunderland, just for the joy of reading their forum…

I’d rather Sunderland went up, but it would be funny if they lost to Wycombe.

Ainsworth is a c**t and his team cheating fuckers, but they have an incredible will to win and are going to be hard to beat.

 

[LowerSouth]

I’d rather Sunderland went up, but it would be funny if they lost to Wycombe.

Ainsworth is a c**t and his team cheating fuckers, but they have an incredible will to win and are going to be hard to beat.

I didn’t see any “cheating” tonight, or,at there place,when they well and truly beat us .

 

[Londox]

We might not like his style but Ainsworth is a brilliantly effective manager.

 

[CaptainOx]

They did an excellent job on MK tonight. Mustered the early 20min storm and then successfully stopped MK from playing with an excellent pressing game. Took their chances from their strengths, a set piece and a good piece of place off a direct ball.

I hate the general directness but the effectiveness and consistency of it's success is almost admirable. No-one seems really able to prevent it. They all work incredibly hard as well, their midfield covered some ground tonight.

 

[OxfordBoy]

I hope they don’t go up because I would rather lose one of the northern teams from the division, But they are a good team with a good manager and the snobbery towards them on here is absolutely pathetic

 

[Scotchegg]

I hope they don’t go up because I would rather lose one of the northern teams from the division, But they are a good team with a good manager and the snobbery towards them on here is absolutely pathetic

I'd rather be thought pathetic than to give one ounce of respect to that horrible club, their manager or their fans.

 

[SirAndyOfCrosby]

They did an excellent job on MK tonight. Mustered the early 20min storm and then successfully stopped MK from playing with an excellent pressing game. Took their chances from their strengths, a set piece and a good piece of place off a direct ball.

I hate the general directness but the effectiveness and consistency of it's success is almost admirable. No-one seems really able to prevent it. They all work incredibly hard as well, their midfield covered some ground tonight.

When you say no-one can prevent it - it obviously can be dealt with - they lost 9 games this season and failed to win another 14.
So, to that end, I thought I'd check who they appeared to struggle against to try and gauge if there is an approach that works against their style.

- They failed to beat 7 teams over 2 games across the season - Ipswich, MK Dons, Sunderland, Pompey, Rotherham, Wigan, Wimbledon.
- So, a mix of playing styles perhaps, but with the exception of Wimbledon all clearly top half sides and 4 of the 7 are sides that finished above them (they only won 1 of the 10 games against the top 5 - Sheffield Wednesday at home a couple of weeks ago).
- Interestingly, the 2 sides that did the double over them were Ipswich and MK - the 2 sides with the highest possession based game by far - which suggests that this is the way to play against them (although last night may suggest otherwise). Even Wimbledon are far more of a possession based side than their League position might suggest.
- Perhaps one thing that Ipswich and MK have in common vs us is that they both have strong defences (4th and 3rd fewest goals conceded respectively) and solid GKs (Walton at Ipswich had great stats for the season, the 2x MK Keepers pretty average but still solid).

It appears to be that the best way to combat what Wycombe do so effectively is to actually play football and keep possession (as we do) - BUT you must also be able to deal with the few chances that they do create and keep alert to the danger. Perhaps we did this better in September than we did in January.

 

[GRB]

We might not like his style but Ainsworth is a brilliantly effective manager.

True but equally easy to see why no one has taken him from there. No way fans of any club at a higher level would be happy watching that style of play.

 

[yellowbow]

Something I sensed in the play off final a couple of years ago... Call it what you like - steeliness, robustness, stubbornness, doggedness - they do seem to have a big game mentality. A determination not to be turned over when the stakes are high. Something we are not so good at imo

 

[Basham Wonderland]

Never thought I'd see the day when Wycombe would be a stronger, more organized and better outfit than us. I'd rather they got promoted or relegated so I don't have to think about them.

 

[McVicar]

I have to say (through gritted teeth) that they played very well last night. Although MK were abysmal after the sending off.

 

[Thomas/Brock/Jones]

When you say no-one can prevent it - it obviously can be dealt with - they lost 9 games this season and failed to win another 14.
So, to that end, I thought I'd check who they appeared to struggle against to try and gauge if there is an approach that works against their style.

- They failed to beat 7 teams over 2 games across the season - Ipswich, MK Dons, Sunderland, Pompey, Rotherham, Wigan, Wimbledon.
- So, a mix of playing styles perhaps, but with the exception of Wimbledon all clearly top half sides and 4 of the 7 are sides that finished above them (they only won 1 of the 10 games against the top 5 - Sheffield Wednesday at home a couple of weeks ago).
- Interestingly, the 2 sides that did the double over them were Ipswich and MK - the 2 sides with the highest possession based game by far - which suggests that this is the way to play against them (although last night may suggest otherwise). Even Wimbledon are far more of a possession based side than their League position might suggest.
- Perhaps one thing that Ipswich and MK have in common vs us is that they both have strong defences (4th and 3rd fewest goals conceded respectively) and solid GKs (Walton at Ipswich had great stats for the season, the 2x MK Keepers pretty average but still solid).

It appears to be that the best way to combat what Wycombe do so effectively is to actually play football and keep possession (as we do) - BUT you must also be able to deal with the few chances that they do create and keep alert to the danger. Perhaps we did this better in September than we did in January.

Probably helped Sept with McNally and Gorrin playing ....and Forde at right back had a solid game including one excellent brave clearance with his head