Think we should leave it at that.......jeeeez its like talking to a 2 year old.
This is what happens when you talk to your own reflection. Its tedious I know, but you are welcome to try joining in with the grown ups at anytime.Think we should leave it at that.......jeeeez its like talking to a 2 year old.
Nope...... mind you the whole "frothing at the mouth", "free tommy" and "sign this petition" appears to have run out of steam...... the banner sounds rather apt.
I saw it last Friday, before it was defaced. Shocking. I am pleased it has been defaced.Sorry to drag up an old thread, but has anyone seen the free Tommy Robinson banner on the m40 near Thame that has a huge cock and hairy balls spray painted over it?
I think he is trying to say, IS, have and/or are attempting to hijack the Muslim faith. I could be wrong.Nurse, nurse, he's out again!!!
Nasty murderous cult? Please explain?
I think he is trying to say, IS, have and/or are attempting to hijack the Muslim faith. I could be wrong.
OK, I've watched that YouTube clip. So people are fed up with 'PC Britain' and not being able to discuss concerns about Islam, hence the 'Free Tommy' campaign.
Seriously, are people not able to see the flaws in that concept? Poor Tommy wasn't jailed for his anti-Islam beliefs, so that's a logical disconnect for a start.
And anyone is entitled to express concerns about Islamic extremists. I'm rather concerned about them myself. But I can disentangle that concern from my opinions about the vast majority of Muslims who follow that same Islam religion but don't turn into terrorists.
Islam is not the problem. The very small number of Muslims who become terrorists, usually the more feeble-minded who can be manipulated and radicalised by others, are the problem.
Poster CassOx has been quiet since branding people as imbeciles for not supporting his anti-Islam views. Well, that was because he failed to target the extremist few, preferring to brand all Muslims as a potential problem.
@Pete Burrett you are YF official Archbishop, the rest of us should feel blessed for any nuggets of wisdom you share, whether deleted eventually or notI've deleted all my posts on this thread because I've decided these threads turn into right v left wing viewpoints rather than serious discussion of the underlying issues. Not sure how you salvaged the post of mine you quoted above, but fair enough.
I've not changed my original view. I'm a 'lefty' (although I prefer 'fair-minded liberal') but have to accept, based on the evidence presented, that there may be a cultural element to grooming.
And this is the crux. A disproportionate number of grooming gangs appear to be made up of Asians, this needs to be accepted and addressed, but that doesn't mean all vulnerable youngsters need to fear all Asians.
The reason I railed against Cassox was because he used similar generalisations, stating we should all fear Islam. He then tried to differentiate between Islam and Muslims. He failed to make his point. If he dislikes Islam, he dislikes its adherents too. (And talking of name calling he the referred to those opposing his views as 'two year olds'. No moral high ground there).
PS I'll probably delete this after a few days too, depending on responses.
"not being listened to or marginalised" = I feel main reason behind Brexit. I know that's another debate, not, for this forum. Heaven help us.I suspect it's part racism and part frustration at what they perceive is they are not being listened to or marginalised. I notice Robinson has tried to reform himself but some of his followers are the same loyal sheep that they were before.
A smarter person would have understood that the "deep state" was out to get him and not be so brazen in ruining a court case.
Pete, I can assure you I havent hacked your account or the forum to dig out deleted posts, I was going to reply on saturday morning and started to respond but was interupted and when I got back to replying on sunday I just continued where I had left it.I've deleted all my posts on this thread because I've decided these threads turn into right v left wing viewpoints rather than serious discussion of the underlying issues. Not sure how you salvaged the post of mine you quoted above, but fair enough.
I've not changed my original view. I'm a 'lefty' (although I prefer 'fair-minded liberal') but have to accept, based on the evidence presented, that there may be a cultural element to grooming.
And this is the crux. A disproportionate number of grooming gangs appear to be made up of Asians, this needs to be accepted and addressed, but that doesn't mean all vulnerable youngsters need to fear all Asians.
The reason I railed against Cassox was because he used similar generalisations, stating we should all fear Islam. He then tried to differentiate between Islam and Muslims. He failed to make his point. If he dislikes Islam, he dislikes its adherents too. (And talking of name calling he the referred to those opposing his views as 'two year olds'. No moral high ground there).
PS I'll probably delete this after a few days too, depending on responses.
People usually delete posts after re reading them and realising perhaps they were wrong and came across a bit of a fool. You can detest Islam and not detest Muslims as Muslims are the people who are harmed most by that despicable cult.....hope that clears a few things up