Umm 16000The idea that you can build an 18,000 seater stadium and surrounding facilities on a green space and think it will be ecologically improved is deluded to the max.
Umm 16000The idea that you can build an 18,000 seater stadium and surrounding facilities on a green space and think it will be ecologically improved is deluded to the max.
The idea that you can build an 18,000 seater stadium and surrounding facilities on a green space and think it will be ecologically improved is deluded to the max.
I am absolutely sure biodiversity will be "promoted" on site, and the club will do what it can to mitigate damage as much as possible. But there's no a hope in hell that the new site will be preferable from an environmental perspective to the current space.
Not really, just mirroring your flippant "naive in the extreme" comment.That clearly depends on how ecologically diverse the existing green space is, and what is done to improve this.
But it looks like you're looking for an argument so I'll leave you to it.
Well I'm old enough to have seen many corporate landscaping and infrastructure schemes come and go. They tend to fall short of their targets, contain massive mistakes (wrong trees in wrong places, lack of feasible long term management plan, etc. etc.) and time and time again, ecological requirements are really just a planning inconvenience paid lip service but without any real commitment.Paul C didn't really make your point, he said that a lot of thought needs to be put into it, and that any benefits may be long term, if they happen. That's not what you said, which came across as an absolute negative on this. I was more wondering how you had arrived at your conclusion. Can a "green roof" really aid the aims, do we have information from similar schemes to draw upon?
There are obvious challenges, and I look forward to the club expanding on this should planning be granted. I think you are right to take a sceptical stance (or even a "cautiously neutral" one), but do we have enough information to decide either positively or negatively at this point?
Well I'm old enough to have seen many corporate landscaping and infrastructure schemes come and go. They tend to fall short of their targets, contain massive mistakes (wrong trees in wrong places, lack of feasible long term management plan, etc. etc.) and time and time again, ecological requirements are really just a planning inconvenience paid lip service but without any real commitment.
I've been very positive and supportive of the stadium across the various questionnaires etc. I think the stadium is the right scheme for the right location. But above any sports, sits the environment and the club need to be held accountable by us, and all Oxfordshire residents, if they don't get this right.
It's not enough to just accept the club's planning-stage statements and blindly believe a green roof will undo the damage caused by the development.
They need to actually make a positive difference here. Scepticism is the only way to get them to do it.
Probably see your comments soon on FoSB websiteWell I'm old enough to have seen many corporate landscaping and infrastructure schemes come and go. They tend to fall short of their targets, contain massive mistakes (wrong trees in wrong places, lack of feasible long term management plan, etc. etc.) and time and time again, ecological requirements are really just a planning inconvenience paid lip service but without any real commitment.
I've been very positive and supportive of the stadium across the various questionnaires etc. I think the stadium is the right scheme for the right location. But above any sports, sits the environment and the club need to be held accountable by us, and all Oxfordshire residents, if they don't get this right.
It's not enough to just accept the club's planning-stage statements and blindly believe a green roof will undo the damage caused by the development.
They need to actually make a positive difference here. Scepticism is the only way to get them to do it.
Flowers can be planted elsewhere and replaced
Couldn't care less, they've got like 100 followers and most of those are Oxford fans keeping an eye on them.Probably see your comments soon on FoSB website
If we get the green light on 19 September, it won’t be too long after that.Anyone know when the first images of the new stadium design will be released to the public? I had September in my head in line with the OCC decision on 19th.
If we get the green light on 19 September, it won’t be too long after that.
Get emails into Cabinet to help secure that positive decision to lease/sell the land and we’ll then get to see the latest version of the plans.
I think there are a lot of us who feel the same way, we've been putting up with the sub-standard Kassam Stadium all this time and are invested in getting a top-class facility for the club and community. The club owners will be held to account for these targets.I agree that OCC need to hold OUFC and CDC accountable for the best possible environmental outcomes. I want a stadium that is hitting those targets out of the park as soon as possible.
It’s possible that there will some small details included in the regular updates, but I suspect the club won’t want to reveal particularly significant information or imagery until after a decision is taken.A little teaser may prompt a few more fans to email in if they can visualise what's possible...