Manager/Coach Robinson. Stay or go?

Should Robinson stay or go?


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There is no reason for a massive delay in appointing a new manager if Robinson goes after Plymouth, other clubs manage it quickly. Let’s be honest taking ages to get the right man with the last two appointments has proved to be absolutely no guarantee of success.
 
yes & no
yes if there is someone new coming in straight away to pick up the pieces and can motivate and organise the squad we have.
no if it means leaving derry & co to fiddle on until the January window.
for me it has to be all or nothing, none of this wait hope wait and see rubbish, we are on a very slippery slope and the slide has to be halted pretty quickly..

Totally agree.
 
Exactly. 6 points from a possible 36 and bottom is abysmal! I would say that at most clubs he would be gone.
And that’s the nub of it. He isn’t gone, and if he’s survived up to this point, it seems apparent to me that he’s not going anywhere, even if we lose on Saturday. Just to make my position clear, I think he should have been dismissed after Luton - that night or the next morning at the latest, but I believe that Tiger has pinned his colours to Robinson and he’ll be here until Tiger goes, or at least the end of this season if there are performance linked clauses in his contract that make dismissing him less expensive. Let’s not forget that when Robinson first arrived his stock was still relatively high despite what most feel about him now. Tiger probably gave him some quite big assurances about how much power he was going to be given - I know what he said about Hanson not being his signing but don’t buy it, he never made those noises when the player signed - and with a part-time md and absent owner not looking over his shoulder all the time lends more credence to this thought. So for the sake of the clubs survival in this division I believe we all have to suck it up, put our feelings about how the club is being run to one side and support the club as best we can. If we can create a positive vibe just maybe it’ll relax the players enough to start performing to their potential. After all, what’s the alternative? A toxic atmosphere and self perpetuating slide towards relegation anyway.
 
Is it at all possible that Tiger will sell out to Erick Thohir as being reported at the back end of September and Tiger is just holding off until thats complete and ET can bring in his own man.
 
Is it at all possible that Tiger will sell out to Erick Thohir as being reported at the back end of September and Tiger is just holding off until thats complete and ET can bring in his own man.
Reported where?
This just seems like speculation, Tiger leading leading the money men from the front seems like the plan, now they have to start thinking about a plan b.
 
yellowbow I think a positive vibe is going to be extremely difficult to get people to create unless it is matched by performances and results on the pitch. The two people with most control of this situation are KR and Tiger and if they are not for changing we are just passengers, Unless results pick up soon it is inevitable that things will get even more toxic for probably not the team but certainly for KR. Plus the longer things go before improvement the more people will turn on Tiger. What concerns me is if no action is taken by Tiger and we do end up going down just how much damage will have been done. Faith is the management and ownership of the club will be shattered. The end result may not be anger but apathy and this will have a major damaging impact on the clubs fortunes.

Whether Tiger knows it or not his decision of lack therefore in the next few weeks will have major repercussions.
 
Mapp built a team and backed them.
Gobbo built expectations and backed the bus over individual players.
Get rid.
 
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Mapp built a team and backed them.
Gobbo built expectations and backed the bus over individual players.
Get rid.

MApp built a team over 3 transfer windows not just 1.

He also was quite happy to throw people under the bus in his early days - Brown, Newey, Hunt just to name a few.
 
yellowbow I think a positive vibe is going to be extremely difficult to get people to create unless it is matched by performances and results on the pitch. The two people with most control of this situation are KR and Tiger and if they are not for changing we are just passengers, Unless results pick up soon it is inevitable that things will get even more toxic for probably not the team but certainly for KR. Plus the longer things go before improvement the more people will turn on Tiger. What concerns me is if no action is taken by Tiger and we do end up going down just how much damage will have been done. Faith is the management and ownership of the club will be shattered. The end result may not be anger but apathy and this will have a major damaging impact on the clubs fortunes.

Whether Tiger knows it or not his decision of lack therefore in the next few weeks will have major repercussions.
I understand what you’re saying Millman and don’t disagree but I honestly do feel that it won’t take a huge amount to turn our fortunes around. Robinson doesn’t suddenly have to transform himself into Guardiola for us to beat Plymouth who, the league suggests, have been as equally shite as us this season. If we could get a positive atmosphere going on Saturday, similar to the one we had when we needed to beat Wycombe a few seasons back, we have the players to overcome them. Then things start to look a little differently. Robinson, rather foolishly in my book, gave the players an excuse to fail with his criticism of the stadium at the forum, lets remove that possible avenue by making it as positive as we can. We don’t have to pull up a forest of trees to remain in this division - it’ll still fall way short of what Robinson should have achieved this season after the big ‘larging it up’ he did in the summer, but for now it’ll have to do. Small margins maybe all it takes. This might all be over optimistic clap trap but I reiterate - what’s the alternative when the management quite clearly isn’t going to change?
 
Excellent post yellowbow. KR was Tiger's choice (WOW!) & it will put him in a very bad light amongst all his friends if he has to sack him - but, how long he can hold off is an interesting one.
 
Excellent post yellowbow. KR was Tiger's choice (WOW!) & it will put him in a very bad light amongst all his friends if he has to sack him - but, how long he can hold off is an interesting one.
Yes, but it could be said that strong leadership by Tiger would put him in a good light amongst his friends, relegation is not the option anyone wants.
 
KR moaning about Gavin Whyte's international call up on iFollow is a good example of the behaviour he needs to cut out sharpish. It achieves nothing to talk like this publicly. Chris Williams did his best to deflect and save him from himself but to no avail. So frustrating when all we ask is some signs of basic leadership from the gaffer. Back aboard the positive bus now but the manager sure does make it hard. Fwiw I hope Whyte has a blinder for NI.
 
KR moaning about Gavin Whyte's international call up on iFollow is a good example of the behaviour he needs to cut out sharpish. It achieves nothing to talk like this publicly. Chris Williams did his best to deflect and save him from himself but to no avail. So frustrating when all we ask is some signs of basic leadership from the gaffer. Back aboard the positive bus now but the manager sure does make it hard. Fwiw I hope Whyte has a blinder for NI.
I couldn’t decide if Robinson was having a pop at Whyte or the Irish FA. Or both?
 
Wait for the inevitable “We’ll, let’s give him another one/three/ thirty two games and see where we are then.” Nope. Get rid of the clown now.
 
Not sure how to feel about it all now after last night. I’m really trying to stay positive as there’s nothing else we as fans can do. I still think with the likes of Nelson and Holmes to come back in that we’ll have enough to see off Plymouth on Saturday, who by all accounts were also woeful last night. It’s not going to be a classic on Saturday that’s for sure! But I have to say Robinson is really worrying me now. When watching his pre-match interview on ifollow I was really surprised at his body language. His smugness and arrogance seems to have cranked up another notch. The post match interview on RO also smacked of the same. He rambles on like someone who’s now got used to not being challenged by anyone. I really think we’re seeing what happens when somebody with the wrong type of character gets given too much power and free reign. It’s like a child being let loose in a sweet shop.
 
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