Manager/Coach KREXIT: The 'Robbo Out' thread.

[RyanioBirdio]

What do you make of Furgusons no vote of confidence line?

He’s leaving himself open to act without denting his own credibility. He’s been quite cute about it. As a result he could sack him in a week and nobody would be able to say it was only a week ago that he said Robinson had his full confidence and support blah blah blah.

 

[tatabanya]

22 points from the last 21 league games. Almost half a season.

If anybody fancies a flutter, stick ten quid on Robinson to be the next MK Dons manager.

I’d have £10 that he won’t be… not that I think he’ll be ours much longer if we get beat on Tuesday

 

[battman]

Blah, blah, blah. It's all talk at the mo. The reality is, we're just outside the drop zone in L1 with an unbalanced squad, three-sided stadium and a clown in charge, that the board refuse to sack (yet), despite ineptitude. Critch and Edwards are Championship managers.

Is all of it? The stadium's in the pipeline, the money's there for transfers, the training ground has already been completed. I don't think Manorlounger is saying everything's ready to go, rather there's huge potential in a managerial project at Oxford.

 

[ubermeistervonmeat]

Rob edwards defiantly shouldn’t be, completely unproven at L1 level and just failed at championship level.

Not sure he failed given it was WATFORD - arguably foolish to trust them but good pay off

 

[ubermeistervonmeat]

Is all of it? The stadium's in the pipeline, the money's there for transfers, the training ground has already been completed. I don't think Manorlounger is saying everything's ready to go, rather there's huge potential in a managerial project at Oxford.

Isn't there some issue with opposition to the stadium

 

[ubermeistervonmeat]

The board can prove that to us by showing decisive leadership and sacking KR. Prove to us its not just a real estate play. We're grateful for the enhanced budget but as we've learnt KR can't be trusted with it.

The board seem to be in a simple position now - if they genuinely aim to be a Top 30 club then KR needs to go now as he has amply proved he will never take us there

If, however, they simply want to get out of L1 then he may well be their man as L2 beckons if he stays much longer

 

[Jason N]

The board seem to be in a simple position now - if they genuinely aim to be a Top 30 club then KR needs to go now as he has amply proved he will never take us there

If, however, they simply want to get out of L1 then he may well be their man as L2 beckons if he stays much longer

Agreed, if they are really ambitious and want to have a chance of the play-offs this season, then they need to sack KR now. Then make Neil Critchley an offer he cannot refuse.

 

[East Stand Fan]

Rob edwards defiantly shouldn’t be, completely unproven at L1 level and just failed at championship level.

Also nearly blew the title and promotion with Forest Green until the couple of games after going on a run that was almost relegation-material in the second half of the season. They we even being booed when in second just needing one win from the final two games they were playing that woefully.

 

[SirAndyOfCrosby]

Also nearly blew the title and promotion with Forest Green until the couple of games after going on a run that was almost relegation-material in the second half of the season. They we even being booed when in second just needing one win from the final two games they were playing that woefully.

Imagine getting promoted so comfortably that you can afford to do that.

Instead of scrapping for a playoff place by November, which is as good as it has ever got with KR.

 

[Oxford1996]

Agreed, if they are really ambitious and want to have a chance of the play-offs this season, then they need to sack KR now. Then make Neil Critchley an offer he cannot refuse.

If they wanna stay in League 1.

They need to sack KR.

 

[Golden Dr Otto]

I’ve got nothing useful to say but thought I’d come here to say Robbo Out just to process my emotions

 

[greatunclekip]

Robbo out. We are miles away from Posh and that's inecusable

 

[brassmonkey]

Robbo out. We are miles away from Posh and that's inecusable

*posh reserves.

 

[Big Ronaldo]

Some of the players are really giving all they have and that is totally commendable. However, results are coming up short far too often to see anything other than a humiliating scrap for enough points to stay up.
While I wish KR well, and thank him for some great moments, his tenure here has passed its sell by date.
With this in mind, we surely cannot contemplate entrusting KR with another transfer window when he has proved so many times that he cannot regularly deliver dynamic and positive improvements to our squad, or even provide a proper balance of personnel.
To save any hope for this season, the board have to act and act now. Three or four games time will leave us with no recovery time for his successor to rescue a stuttering season.

 

[Symp59]

I said today the head says a defeat which I've been saying alot recently the heart says a win. The heads have it the heads it. Its a joke we've become a joke. 22 points from 21 games in the league he should be ashamed he should walk.

 

[Lundinsponytail]

The thing nobody seems to be saying is that this situation is clearly affecting the players. Even if they’re trying too hard because they do care so much, it’s coming from the tension surrounding the manager. They feel panicked to me. Even if a lot of them like him loads, his presence is ultimately the source of their unease. That means that he is a problem even if every single player adores him. It’s far too linear to say that the players trying and wanting to play for him means he shouldn’t go. It does not work like that.

He’s very much becoming the source of their erratic, overly emotional behaviour. I’m not blaming him for that, I’m stating a simple fact. They’re stressed, they’re tense, they’re reacting rather than thinking calmly, and even if it does come from a good place it is producing negative results. Brannagan confronting fans the other week; Taylor losing his rag and being dragged down the tunnel today. It’s badly affecting things. I really think this is being hugely overlooked. It’s becoming far too much for them to handle.

That is the main issue I have when people say things like, “Well who could do any better? We can’t sign anyone until January anyway.” We need the players to be able to calm down, to stop being so stressed out, and for the fans to rally around them and help get them through. That is why the notion of leaving Robinson in charge just doesn’t feel like an option to me.

That's true, I think. For various reasons (not least the incessant talking about himself) the whole club seems to have become a psychodrama with only one lead actor. That's not healthy.
I agreed with Malcolm a couple of weeks ago that it was rational - if not popular - for the club to take its time. And, during that time, to inspect performances and results closely.
I think that since then we have lost to Wycombe, Sutton and Posh and beaten Exeter.
That in itself isn't a sterling case for the defence. But for me the worrying thing is that calm, clear perspective inasmuch as it ever existed appears to have entirely disappeared.
He claims that we were miles better than Wycombe and Posh. But that's not really true. They came away from home, went ahead and then sat back and let us attack. Any team can look dominant when the opposition is no longer trying to score. He needs to ask himself why, when it's 0-0, 11 a side (and therefore nothing has happened to affect the balance of the game) we routinely find ourselves going behind. Something like 70% of matches are won by the team scoring first so this is a very important issue.
Second, it's hardly a coincidence if over the first 20 or so matches of the season we find ourselves 5th from bottom and out of 2 cups. Indeed, the problem goes back further than that. We are now 40 matches into Bottom 6 form. Almost an entire season's worth of relegation football on a top 6 budget. That is long term under-performance on an epic scale. Yet apparently every single week it's bad luck. No solutions, no commitment to improve, no recognition of his role in that.
And for me it's that that is the final straw. Can't speak for Malcolm.... but, reluctantly, I've seen (and heard) enough.
Really hope to be proved wrong....

 

[Steve Gilbert]

After yet another defeat today against an average Posh side, and in all likely hood another two by this time this week, by saying we have been here before, you STILL advocate giving hi more time to turn it around.
Keep saying it slowly and I'm sure you may well begin to believe that.

The players today earnt him more time as at half time I’m pretty sure he was on the way out of the door.
Lose again on Tuesday then I think he will be gone.

Do I still hope he can turn it around? Yes
At this point in time do I think he will turn it around? It’s looking very doubtful.

I think you mistake me having a different view to you to being a massive backer of Robinson when in fact, all I want is for Oxford United to be successful. I appreciate what Robinson has done for this club and some of the football his teams have produced over the last few seasons.
I think though that he tried to change too much at once in the summer. I remember a interview at the end of last season, I think after Rotherham, where he said this team needed a rebuild after failing again. I’m not sure it did, it needed tweaks and to address the defensive aspect of our game but he seems to of tried too hard to think about playing a tighter game and neglected our attacking threat.

 

[Cotswolds Cowboy]

The thing nobody seems to be saying is that this situation is clearly affecting the players. Even if they’re trying too hard because they do care so much, it’s coming from the tension surrounding the manager. They feel panicked to me. Even if a lot of them like him loads, his presence is ultimately the source of their unease. That means that he is a problem even if every single player adores him. It’s far too linear to say that the players trying and wanting to play for him means he shouldn’t go. It does not work like that.

He’s very much becoming the source of their erratic, overly emotional behaviour. I’m not blaming him for that, I’m stating a simple fact. They’re stressed, they’re tense, they’re reacting rather than thinking calmly, and even if it does come from a good place it is producing negative results. Brannagan confronting fans the other week; Taylor losing his rag and being dragged down the tunnel today. It’s badly affecting things. I really think this is being hugely overlooked. It’s becoming far too much for them to handle.

That is the main issue I have when people say things like, “Well who could do any better? We can’t sign anyone until January anyway.” We need the players to be able to calm down, to stop being so stressed out, and for the fans to rally around them and help get them through. That is why the notion of leaving Robinson in charge just doesn’t feel like an option to me.

Spot on
No one knows where they stand with KR
But they know they've got to give 100% or they'll be thrown under to bus moments after the manager says 'I have to protect my players'

 

[Steve Gilbert]

That's true, I think. For various reasons (not least the incessant talking about himself) the whole club seems to have become a psychodrama with only one lead actor. That's not healthy.
I agreed with Malcolm a couple of weeks ago that it was rational - if not popular - for the club to take its time. And, during that time, to inspect performances and results closely.
I think that since then we have lost to Wycombe, Sutton and Posh and beaten Exeter.
That in itself isn't a sterling case for the defence. But for me the worrying thing is that calm, clear perspective inasmuch as it ever existed appears to have entirely disappeared.
He claims that we were miles better than Wycombe and Posh. But that's not really true. They came away from home, went ahead and then sat back and let us attack. Any team can look dominant when the opposition is no longer trying to score. He needs to ask himself why, when it's 0-0, 11 a side (and therefore nothing has happened to affect the balance of the game) we routinely find ourselves going behind. Something like 70% of matches are won by the team scoring first so this is a very important issue.
Second, it's hardly a coincidence if over the first 20 or so matches of the season we find ourselves 5th from bottom and out of 2 cups. Indeed, the problem goes back further than that. We are now 40 matches into Bottom 6 form. Almost an entire season's worth of relegation football on a top 6 budget. That is long term under-performance on an epic scale. Yet apparently every single week it's bad luck. No solutions, no commitment to improve, no recognition of his role in that.
And for me it's that that is the final straw. Can't speak for Malcolm.... but, reluctantly, I've seen (and heard) enough.
Really hope to be proved wrong....

Are you sure you hope to be proved wrong Charlie? Not put a bet on us to go down this season then?

 

[RyanioBirdio]

Spot on
No one knows where they stand with KR
But they know they've got to give 100% or they'll be thrown under to bus moments after the manager says 'I have to protect my players'

I honestly think that a few games under Mousinho (not Short), who is hugely respected and who the players know they can relax under, and with the fans rallying and getting behind them without any bad feelings or any distractions, is the best thing for the football club. Then the board can take their time, find the person they think is best suited to come in and start rebuilding, and everybody can look forward to a fresh start with a sense of unity.

Robinson is now too divisive and too big of a distraction. He will always be one defeat away from people wanting him out and he is too lacking in humility to calm things down. He already tried to be smug and needle people who criticised him post-Exeter, and then he loses the next two games to make himself look daft. That’s all that’s going to happen now. We win and he takes digs at the fans; we lose and the pendulum swings back at him. And all the while, the football club is in the middle getting smashed about.

It has got to stop.