General New Stadium Plans - Stratfield Brake

[christenedinjericho]

For the fans out there who are coughing and spluttering over the proposed 18k capacity (personally 21k for me - but built right I'll happily take the 18) please remember the old saying - measure twice cut once. Surely after 21 years of P**s taking even the most sceptical of fan can see that this figure makes sense first time around rather than another piece meal effort that has blighted this club and its supporter's for well over two decade's

Enough is enough.

COYY'S.

 

[TL@69]

This is what I’ve been waiting for since our current landlord turned down the first offer & then refused to attend a second meeting where a second offer was on the table for the purchase of the current stadium.
I strongly suspect that all interested parties have been in the loop for a very long time.
This meeting is a box ticking exercise . Once OUFC have the lease then the stadium will happen.
Yes there will be objections that will & need to be listened to.
infrastructure will be a challenge where ever a new development of any type is built, will arise .
My personal aspirations are some retail, family entertainment, good quality street food for all budgets,
good family pub serving wide range of drinks , must include good selection of real ales, not forgetting a micro brewery
a little wow factor please Will also be appreciated.

 

[bashamwonderland]

For the fans out there who are coughing and spluttering over the proposed 18k capacity (personally 21k for me - but built right I'll happily take the 18) please remember the old saying - measure twice cut once. Surely after 21 years of P**s taking even the most sceptical of fan can see that this figure makes sense first time around rather than another piece meal effort that has blighted this club and its supporter's for well over two decade's

Enough is enough.

COYY'S.

On that logic, why not just make it 60k then and completely f**k it up.

If I were a tailor I wouldn't make your jacket a 56" on the off-chance you became a fat bastard would I. I'd make it right for your size.

16k is the sweet spot.

 

[MJB]

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[Pompeyyellows]

Hopefully i will be able to get a train from either Pompey or Fareham direct to Oxford Parkway. So for me it will probably work better having very limited parking on site. Just means i can have a few beers for a change. Personally i think this is very exciting news, i think a lot has been going on behind the scenes which us mere mortals haven't been privy to, it wouldn't surprise either if a scaled model of the proposed project has already been built or is in the process of being built. This project is a lot further down the road than we think it is. Our new owners are very serious business guys who aint messing about. I'm 100% convinced this will happen. I will be gutted if im wrong.

 

[Oxymoron]

They will certainly need to look at the travel arrangements for those from the eastern side of the county. Currently three or four of us nip down the M40 from Chinnor - a round trip of approx 40 miles. With the free parking, that costs around 6 quid in petrol.

A day return ticket from Princes Risborough or Haddenham Parkway is (currently) £12.80. There is a rail link bus to PR for £3 return (each) but that doesn't run Saturdays or after 6:30pm during the week. There is no direct link to Haddenham, the combined tickets for the two journeys is £7.20 return (each), but again, no evening service. Car parking at the station is cheaper in any case when there are three travellers @ £8.50.

So from currently coughing up a paltry £6 we would be looking at nearly £47 for the sustainable alternative. The extra mileage to SB will make it a 60 mile roundtrip, but with the park and ride charging £2 (wonder how long before that trebles......), I think we will have little choice but to continue with the car - and I know of at least four other ST holders that make the same trip from our village every game.

 

[Oslernorth]

The arrows on the master plan could be predicted people flow?

Arrivals by train/Park & Ride being the longer arrow, from the hotel (in the triangle) being the top one and then flow around the venue being the curved one on the left?

Wouldn`t expect a "sustainable" stadium to have much more than the bare minimum of parking.

I`ve already sussed out where I`ll be dumping the gas guzzler.

Are you using a respectable auto salvager?

 

[Oslernorth]

Be prepared for comments like that to be brought up by parish councils or anybody else who is going to object.

That’s a good point. Let’s make it clear we’re all planning on using public transport.

 

[Fanatica]

They will certainly need to look at the travel arrangements for those from the eastern side of the county. Currently three or four of us nip down the M40 from Chinnor - a round trip of approx 40 miles. With the free parking, that costs around 6 quid in petrol.

A day return ticket from Princes Risborough or Haddenham Parkway is (currently) £12.80. There is a rail link bus to PR for £3 return (each) but that doesn't run Saturdays or after 6:30pm during the week. There is no direct link to Haddenham, the combined tickets for the two journeys is £7.20 return (each), but again, no evening service. Car parking at the station is cheaper in any case when there are three travellers @ £8.50.

So from currently coughing up a paltry £6 we would be looking at nearly £47 for the sustainable alternative. The extra mileage to SB will make it a 60 mile roundtrip, but with the park and ride charging £2 (wonder how long before that trebles......), I think we will have little choice but to continue with the car - and I know of at least four other ST holders that make the same trip from our village every game.

From Thame, it's £6.70 for an individual. In a group saver (3+) that ticket is reduced by a third. £4.50 each. The trains will stop there on match days, and take about 22 minutes.

If my group of 4 from Thame did a journey, we'd be looking at 2 x 5 minute £6 taxis to & from Haddenham, and £4.50 each for the train. The travel would be circa £7.50 for the day. To give you an idea, to get to the Kassam via public transport from Thame right now we're looking at a 40 minute bus to Oxford, a 20 minute bus to blackbird leys, and a 10 minute walk. Which costs around £8.20 return; oh and on week nights there's no bus back to Thame so we can't actually get home.

I appreciate you're probably closer to Risborough, but the point stands. It really isn't ALL that expensive, and you need to take into account that the Kassam is a luxury for car parking space, it has more per seat than any other ground in the country. Oxford is not a city where the car is going to be supported, whether we like it or not. Public transport is going to be huge moving forward.

 

[ljs]

On that logic, why not just make it 60k then and completely f**k it up.

If I were a tailor I wouldn't make your jacket a 56" on the off-chance you became a fat bastard would I. I'd make it right for your size.

16k is the sweet spot.

I think your suit may be a little tight quite soon.

 

[Followtheox1]

They will certainly need to look at the travel arrangements for those from the eastern side of the county. Currently three or four of us nip down the M40 from Chinnor - a round trip of approx 40 miles. With the free parking, that costs around 6 quid in petrol.

A day return ticket from Princes Risborough or Haddenham Parkway is (currently) £12.80. There is a rail link bus to PR for £3 return (each) but that doesn't run Saturdays or after 6:30pm during the week. There is no direct link to Haddenham, the combined tickets for the two journeys is £7.20 return (each), but again, no evening service. Car parking at the station is cheaper in any case when there are three travellers @ £8.50.

So from currently coughing up a paltry £6 we would be looking at nearly £47 for the sustainable alternative. The extra mileage to SB will make it a 60 mile roundtrip, but with the park and ride charging £2 (wonder how long before that trebles......), I think we will have little choice but to continue with the car - and I know of at least four other ST holders that make the same trip from our village every game.

According to my friend the internet, Chinnor to Grenoble Rd is 18.6 miles and Chinnor to Kidlington is 22 miles. So an extra 2.5 miles or so each way.

 

[SteMerritt]

They will certainly need to look at the travel arrangements for those from the eastern side of the county. Currently three or four of us nip down the M40 from Chinnor - a round trip of approx 40 miles. With the free parking, that costs around 6 quid in petrol.

A day return ticket from Princes Risborough or Haddenham Parkway is (currently) £12.80. There is a rail link bus to PR for £3 return (each) but that doesn't run Saturdays or after 6:30pm during the week. There is no direct link to Haddenham, the combined tickets for the two journeys is £7.20 return (each), but again, no evening service. Car parking at the station is cheaper in any case when there are three travellers @ £8.50.

So from currently coughing up a paltry £6 we would be looking at nearly £47 for the sustainable alternative. The extra mileage to SB will make it a 60 mile roundtrip, but with the park and ride charging £2 (wonder how long before that trebles......), I think we will have little choice but to continue with the car - and I know of at least four other ST holders that make the same trip from our village every game.

There is a group saver on Chiltern Railways for groups of 3, looking at the site now you can get 3 from HAD to OXP and back for a total of £13.20

 

[captainox]

There is a group saver on Chiltern Railways for groups of 3, looking at the site now you can get 3 from HAD to OXP and back for a total of £13.20

Current prices are probably pretty pointless examining as has been said, it will be an entirely different industry and operator set-up come the day this stadium is actually open.

You'd hope that also by the opening date, that additional service patterns into Oxford Parkway will have been added or at the very least, better connection times at Oxford for those having to change.

 

[SteMerritt]

Current prices are probably pretty pointless examining as has been said, it will be an entirely different industry and operator set-up come the day this stadium is actually open.

True, but it gives an idea of where things are at. Public transport for a group will always be more expensive than the car unfortunately.

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

Just a reminder that we encourage fans to contact their County Councillors ahead of the meeting on 18th January to make known their support for this project. You can find contact details for the County Councillors here https://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/.../oxford.../your-councillor

Done.

Simply sent an email encouraging them to support this project which I feel will benefit the whole of Oxfordshire economically whilst also being considerate to the local community and environment around the Stratfield Brake. Also, moving the ice rink and allowing the Kassam to be closed following OUFC moving out will pave the way for other projects to happen which are on their agenda.

 

[ljs]

That’s a good point. Let’s make it clear we’re all planning on using public transport.

Agreed

Well, apart from EY, Oxy and his friends...and myself (Northants) and also my brother (Glos).... Apart from those then. yes.

 

[Check His Studs Ref]

Statement from Kidlington Cricket Club - https://www.kidlingtoncricket.com/news/oufc-proposal-for-stratfield-brake-2674485.html

On the statement its says they believe that the illustrative masterplan is from 2017 and "incorrect".

 

[unification]

That's how crap the buses are it would be quicker to walk it

Would cycling it be an option? Straight down Iffley Road and then up Banbury Road. Less than 40 minutes to Kidlington Sainsburys according to Google. Oxford is a city that is well set for cycling after all.

They will certainly need to look at the travel arrangements for those from the eastern side of the county. Currently three or four of us nip down the M40 from Chinnor - a round trip of approx 40 miles. With the free parking, that costs around 6 quid in petrol.

A day return ticket from Princes Risborough or Haddenham Parkway is (currently) £12.80. There is a rail link bus to PR for £3 return (each) but that doesn't run Saturdays or after 6:30pm during the week. There is no direct link to Haddenham, the combined tickets for the two journeys is £7.20 return (each), but again, no evening service. Car parking at the station is cheaper in any case when there are three travellers @ £8.50.

So from currently coughing up a paltry £6 we would be looking at nearly £47 for the sustainable alternative. The extra mileage to SB will make it a 60 mile roundtrip, but with the park and ride charging £2 (wonder how long before that trebles......), I think we will have little choice but to continue with the car - and I know of at least four other ST holders that make the same trip from our village every game.

Is that a peak fare though? For a Saturday, a return from H&T to Oxford is £6.70 a return so fairly reasonable.

Herein, lies the benefits and problems of public transport especially in a fairly rural county such as Oxfordshire. It won't suit everybody. Some may find public transport a convenience and a reasonable cost to pay in order to leave the car behind, some will find it a pain having to join more dots with the costs racking up like you seem to.

The best bet may be taking turns as designated driver and driving a group of you to H&T or PR from Chinnor every other Saturday and taking the train from there. It would cut down the 60 mile round trip to 10-15 miles at most and a group of you could make more savings on tickets.

(Psst. I can tell you the free places to park in Haddenham too. Don't be ripped off at the station!)

 

[MJB]

I've emailed my District County Councillor, as below, and cc'd in the Leader Cllr Leffman and relevant Cabinet members Cllr Bearder and Cllr Enright, as below.

"I wanted to write to you following the announcement of Oxford United Football Club's preferred stadium site of Stratfield Brake and state that I would be strongly supportive of this happening.

I appreciate that the location is outside of your Division, but I was keen to register my view as I believe it would be a positive development for not only the football club, which has strong community ties across Oxfordshire and which has only improved during the global pandemic, but also the wider Oxfordshire region.

This includes the Division of Kingston & Cumnor - for which I am a constituent - from which I often travel to the current Kassam site with friends and family. We currently do so via car but would all revert to public transport if Stratfield Brake were to become the new stadium site as the opportunities to use bus, Park and Ride or train would be greatly enhanced. This is in addition to the sustainability and carbon reduction benefits that the stadium itself introduce as part of the planning process.

We would also be much more inclined to remain at the stadium site for a longer period, to buy food and drink and generally spend more money if the proposed development happens as the surrounding facilities would be much more appealing. I have no doubt that this would be the case for many others who are keen to spend money in the local community on an activity which would be served better at the new site and which would also offer additional employment opportunities.

Additionally, an improved stadium experience would also mean that I was much more likely to bring along my two young daughters and partner and involve them in what is a very community minded social activity. The current Kassam site does not lend itself well to bringing along our children as the site is a not very accessible or attractive one, so the move would I'm sure increase our leisure pound spending in a community activity (and also increase female engagement in what has typically been a male dominate sport over many decades).

This feels like a once in a lifetime opportunity to provide not only a community club, but also the wider Oxfordshire region, with the chance to introduce a development which will benefit the county socially, economically and sustainably and I would urge you to encourage your fellow Councillors to support this fantastic initiative."

Hope many others do the same.

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

Statement from Kidlington Cricket Club - https://www.kidlingtoncricket.com/news/oufc-proposal-for-stratfield-brake-2674485.html

On the statement its says they believe that the illustrative masterplan is from 2017 and "incorrect".

Crucially though, they support it in principle as all the stakeholders seem to be at this stage.