What does Tiger mean by thé WOW factor?

[stokeu]

is it the top ranked player on World of Warcraft who will be unleashing his magic upon us and a bolt of lightning (or whatever) on our opponents and sending a horde of Hellfire Hellhounds to drink the blood of everyone in Swind*n (or something along those lines)

 

[Big Ronaldo]

There's a really sh*t anagram in there somewhere.

Glad to oblige...
Maths kan thus jar u a thin nurs

 

[Oslernorth]

WOW could mean good or bad. If it turns out to be Di Canio my first reaction would be WOW sharply followed by WTF

 

[Marked Ox]

WOW could mean good or bad. If it turns out to be Di Canio my first reaction would be WOW sharply followed by WTF

A few other expletives would follow on from that for me.

 

[Yellow and Blue Army]

Surely it has to be the Oxford fan who set the Guinness World Record for most seasons played on Football Manager?

 

[Shaun Rice]

It’s easy to state that fans will have the wow factor when the new manager is unveiled, but does he understand the Oxford United fans and what really drives them? Has Tiger set thé bar at a height that may be difficult to reach?

Not sure another manager from the continent would be the answer to our league position and the players at his disposal. Certainly keeps us guessing though.

I don’t think it is easy to say (well it is) but it’s hard to achieve. Tigers statement not only says wow factor but also a real statement of intent of the clubs ambition.
I think it depends on your perspective. Let’s face it, of the names mentioned Sven, McClaren, Hoddle would have the wow factor if appointed. I suspect Tiger would also think PK would be a wow but imo we need someone with experience of actually managing a team day to day.
One thing is for sure those ‘names’ ain’t coming to little Oxford without a hefty budget which I think is positive.

On the foreign manager front I don’t think it really matters as long as they’re good. Let’s be honest if Pep had come in at the start of the summer and had been given money to spend and good money was offered to existing players to keep them we wouldn’t be in this mess. I’m sure the team sheet would look a lot different and even tho he was a poor manager.

One final note Tiger did also say 12 games left, new manager, win every game and make the play offs. Blimey!

 

[Scotchegg]

Good point made about thr budget. Many of the names mentioned wouldn't touch us without some evidence of budgets and plans for the future. Equally, none would tolerate the idea that Tiger would interfere with team selection or being holding half-time talks.

So whilst we are still waiting to see how wow the wow factor is, some of the immediate fears about Tiger are maybe a little unfounded.

 

[LondonRoader]

I don’t think it is easy to say (well it is) but it’s hard to achieve. Tigers statement not only says wow factor but also a real statement of intent of the clubs ambition.
I think it depends on your perspective. Let’s face it, of the names mentioned Sven, McClaren, Hoddle would have the wow factor if appointed. I suspect Tiger would also think PK would be a wow but imo we need someone with experience of actually managing a team day to day.
One thing is for sure those ‘names’ ain’t coming to little Oxford without a hefty budget which I think is positive.

On the foreign manager front I don’t think it really matters as long as they’re good. Let’s be honest if Pep had come in at the start of the summer and had been given money to spend and good money was offered to existing players to keep them we wouldn’t be in this mess. I’m sure the team sheet would look a lot different and even tho he was a poor manager.

One final note Tiger did also say 12 games left, new manager, win every game and make the play offs. Blimey!

I think you have got this wrong.
Pep did have a decent budget to move the club forward, was it not quoted as around the £4m mark which was a good increase from the previous season.
It was Peps recruitment policy that got us into this mess, or DE for giving him his head instead of sticking to the business model.
As for keeping the then existing players, Jono and Maggs were the problem, they were are highest earners and both Dunks and Lunny wanted parity, Mapp at the time thought they were not worth that extra money and they both looked elsewhere, Jono was always going as it was our business model, Maggs had a double your money offer that we couldn't justify and he couldn't refuse.

 

[pooshooter]

Oxford Mail suggesting SVEN!!!

 

[Made-in-Jericho]

Oxford Mail suggesting SVEN!!!

Where? Can’t see it online anywhere.

 

[Lundinsponytail]

£3m I think. £4m was what Charlie’s mate has told him the budget needs to be to challenge

Yes, our budget this season was originally going to be just under 3 million (hence Mapp's departure) but was subsequently increased a bit and apparently ended up at about 3.2 million. Which would be a top 10 budget, possibly top 8.
However, the problems were that we were no longer looking to pay money for players. A part of Pep's pitch was apparently that he could pick up good players on free transfers and still challenge for promotion.
Which fitted in very well with DE's strategic priority, which was to start 'realising' the full value of 'his' assets. It must have all looked so appealing! Strip out 4 million, keep budget steady (without a bolchy MApp bitching in the background) sell a burgeoning League 1 club for absolute top whack of 7 million and then keep an interest for when bright young manager gets promotion.
And then, gradually, the wall started to crumble, but by bit. Pep signs a useless bunch of old-timers, the chief scout resigns in protest, the league form starts to dive, Tiger cannot rustle up the other investors he needs, crowds reduce leading to higher monthly losses.
So, come January, the situation was looking increasingly desperate. DE was fast expending the cash he had stripped out last summer. So he stitched together a way to do the deal even though Tiger hadn't got his money together. Load the club up with hard debt.
So Tiger inherits a top 10 budget, but a bottom 8 squad losing him 2 million a year. And he cannot sell players to fund the gap, let alone the 1 million a year extra required to get a promotion challenging level. So the whole lot (including transfers in) of about 3 million a year is going to have to come from the pockets of a chap who could only manage 2.5 million to put in in the first place.

 

[Made-in-Jericho]

Glad to oblige...
Maths kan thus jar u a thin nurs

Or how about...
J Shan’t thank AA this rum run.

 

[pooshooter]

Where? Can’t see it online anywhere.

saw it on oxford mail twitter feed yesterday

 

[Paul Cannell]

I got "Ah, thank, just ran a rum s**t."

 

[Scotchegg]

Yes, our budget this season was originally going to be just under 3 million (hence Mapp's departure) but was subsequently increased a bit and apparently ended up at about 3.2 million. Which would be a top 10 budget, possibly top 8.
However, the problems were that we were no longer looking to pay money for players. A part of Pep's pitch was apparently that he could pick up good players on free transfers and still challenge for promotion.
Which fitted in very well with DE's strategic priority, which was to start 'realising' the full value of 'his' assets. It must have all looked so appealing! Strip out 4 million, keep budget steady (without a bolchy MApp bitching in the background) sell a burgeoning League 1 club for absolute top whack of 7 million and then keep an interest for when bright young manager gets promotion.
And then, gradually, the wall started to crumble, but by bit. Pep signs a useless bunch of old-timers, the chief scout resigns in protest, the league form starts to dive, Tiger cannot rustle up the other investors he needs, crowds reduce leading to higher monthly losses.
So, come January, the situation was looking increasingly desperate. DE was fast expending the cash he had stripped out last summer. So he stitched together a way to do the deal even though Tiger hadn't got his money together. Load the club up with hard debt.
So Tiger inherits a top 10 budget, but a bottom 8 squad losing him 2 million a year. And he cannot sell players to fund the gap, let alone the 1 million a year extra required to get a promotion challenging level. So the whole lot (including transfers in) of about 3 million a year is going to have to come from the pockets of a chap who could only manage 2.5 million to put in in the first place.

So why buy the club??

We hear this line time and time again but what is in it for Tiger to spend his last pennies on a club destined to fail?

DE can clearly strike a hard bargain, as the sales of Johnson, Lundstrum and others prove. But ultimately, they only agreed because the clubs involved felt that the deal was worthwhile. So, what makes buying the club worthwhile for Tiger et al?

 

[Paul Cannell]

a. he's a nutter and a bit delusional.
b. since they're clearly not buying a small unobtusive cash washer and installing in the ground I can't think of another reason.
c. Nope, nothing

 

[LondonRoader]

Yes, our budget this season was originally going to be just under 3 million (hence Mapp's departure) but was subsequently increased a bit and apparently ended up at about 3.2 million. Which would be a top 10 budget, possibly top 8.
However, the problems were that we were no longer looking to pay money for players. A part of Pep's pitch was apparently that he could pick up good players on free transfers and still challenge for promotion.
Which fitted in very well with DE's strategic priority, which was to start 'realising' the full value of 'his' assets. It must have all looked so appealing! Strip out 4 million, keep budget steady (without a bolchy MApp bitching in the background) sell a burgeoning League 1 club for absolute top whack of 7 million and then keep an interest for when bright young manager gets promotion.
And then, gradually, the wall started to crumble, but by bit. Pep signs a useless bunch of old-timers, the chief scout resigns in protest, the league form starts to dive, Tiger cannot rustle up the other investors he needs, crowds reduce leading to higher monthly losses.
So, come January, the situation was looking increasingly desperate. DE was fast expending the cash he had stripped out last summer. So he stitched together a way to do the deal even though Tiger hadn't got his money together. Load the club up with hard debt.
So Tiger inherits a top 10 budget, but a bottom 8 squad losing him 2 million a year. And he cannot sell players to fund the gap, let alone the 1 million a year extra required to get a promotion challenging level. So the whole lot (including transfers in) of about 3 million a year is going to have to come from the pockets of a chap who could only manage 2.5 million to put in in the first place.

All that waffle and the crucial money facts in the first paragraph are wrong.
Would it suprise you that this years budget was closer to £4m than the £3m you keep quoting, sort of messes up all your suppositions.

 

[Lundinsponytail]

All that waffle and the crucial money facts in the first paragraph are wrong.
Would it suprise you that this years budget was closer to £4m than the £3m you keep quoting, sort of messes up all your suppositions.

Well, hardly. In fact it makes my main point all the more relevant.
English comprehension wasn't your strongest suit, was it?
My point is precisely that the club is a financial basket case with an unsustainable budget now that your hero has removed the last possible lifeline.
He has handed it over in rotten order, with bad performance at every level. Tiger, to his credit, has already put a bomb under the merchandising and marketing areas. But they are the simpler bits. Sorting out the disastrous playing situation, skeletal commercial relationships and almost invisible community relations will be far far harder. So many good people have left the club that almost everything is going to have to be re-learned and re-established from scratch.
Good luck, Tiger. I honestly, sincerely, genuinely hope that you understand what you have taken on. Cos that is the easy bit. Fixing it is going to be man's work.

 

[MarkG]

So what did Sartori and Donald value the squad at when they were looking to buy the club, compared to what Eales "stripped out", and what were they willing to pay for the club?

 

[Scotchegg]

Well, hardly. In fact it makes my main point all the more relevant.
English comprehension wasn't your strongest suit, was it?
My point is precisely that the club is a financial basket case with an unsustainable budget now that your hero has removed the last possible lifeline.
He has handed it over in rotten order, with bad performance at every level. Tiger, to his credit, has already put a bomb under the merchandising and marketing areas. But they are the simpler bits. Sorting out the disastrous playing situation, skeletal commercial relationships and almost invisible community relations will be far far harder. So many good people have left the club that almost everything is going to have to be re-learned and re-established from scratch.
Good luck, Tiger. I honestly, sincerely, genuinely hope that you understand what you have taken on. Cos that is the easy bit. Fixing it is going to be man's work.

Now Charles, I know you like to claim that none of my posts have any substance, but may be you can answer the question I keep posing?

If the club is such a basketcase, where several millions needs putting in just to survive and pay off DE, with a valueless squad and non-existent community links etc etc, and Tiger has no money and no obvious backers - why agree to this deal?

What is in this for Tiger?

And if he is as skint as you imply, how much debt can he realistically load on to the club? With no assets to speak of, how will he finance the basic running costs and repayments to DE?