New Stadium Plans - The Triangle - Planning

[Obstructed view]

That ‘only’ is doing quite a lot of heavy lifting, though. The diversion route looks pretty inconvenient (unless I’m misreading, having to go right round via pear tree?). Even assuming it’s not also closed for the duration of the match (which would mean 5 hours total closure at least), that’s still quite an imposition. And as someone above said, closing that road for the commute run on a Tuesday night between 645 and 745 seems very unlikely - getting out of Oxford on a weekday by car is a nightmare enough as it is already without funnelling everyone through pear tree.

Don’t get me wrong, I think the stadium looks superb and it doesn’t matter to me particularly - I never take that road anyway. I’m not trying to dampen enthusiasm. I just think this seems like a pretty obvious point of contention that objectors will raise, and I’m a little surprised that this seems to be the plan.

Maybe it provides a planned opportunity to offer a seemingly big concession in the planning phase to show local people have been listened to

 

[Malc]

What difference would it be in an underpass?

You can't get thrown off an underpass.

 

[Eric Blair]

Wasn't it Christa that once mentioned "Hoards of overweight men walking through the village"

To be fair she’s described me pretty well

 

[tomoufc]

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Transport researcher here with a little knowledge of 'active travel' (walking, cycling and wheeling), which is going to be important for approval.

The devil's always in the detail with these things, but it's good to see some segregated cycling facilities, which I think if done right could be a popular way to get to the ground.

I would hope that the zebra crossings are in fact 'parallel crossings' (eg https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&url=https://leicestershirehighways.org.uk/traffic-schemes/parallel-crossing/&psig=AOvVaw3rujrk8p4RoAB7qO8nL8JO&ust=1696966374074000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBIQjhxqFwoTCJjd6cLa6YEDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD), which separate cyclists from pedestrians. 'Shared footways' shouldn't really have any place in a new development, as they put cyclists in conflict with pedestrians (although am I reading correctly that this section of the Oxford Road will be closed in match days? - that would reduce the conflict, and essentially make the entire road a car free haven for active travel).

Finally, I'm less than impressed by the renders of the on-site cycle parking, which looks tokenistic. In fact there appears to be even less provision than is currently the case at the Kassam. Good quality cycle parking would be clearly signposted, covered, much larger, not be tucked away but nearby to the main entrances and overlooked (for security), and include things like maintenance stands.

I'm excited though, and I'm sure these things will be worked out as the design progresses.

 

[Bath Yellow]

The new stadium looks superb, what we have all been dreaming off, especially after going to some of the stadiums we visit on away matches.
One point nobody has mentioned is how secure would it be, especially the proposed achway.

 

[Oslernorth]

Wasn't it Christa that once mentioned "Hoards of overweight men walking through the village"

If that floats her boat, who is anyone to argue?!
But unfortunately she’ll find the only people walking to the stadium (of any size or weight) will also live in Kidlington. So she’ll likely miss out on any increased eye candy around the village.

 

[Tomox]

To me it looks about the same size as Rotherham’s stadium despite having 4k more seats. Am I just looking at it wrong?

Looks fantastic though!

 

[holdsteady]

If that floats her boat, who is anyone to argue?!
But unfortunately she’ll find the only people walking to the stadium (of any size or weight) will also live in Kidlington. So she’ll likely miss out on any increased eye candy around the village.

She will have to buy a season ticket if she wants to spend Saturday afternoon eyeing up overweight, middle aged men.

 

[OX14]

You can't get thrown off an underpass.

It was hardly going to be an open top bridge with the amount of footfall using it.

 

[bert]

What difference would it be in an underpass?

The fighting would be hidden from the public. Us thugs could beat the s**t out of each other, P**s up against the walls and then be on our way. The villagers of Kidlington would be none the wiser, unless they want some of course.

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711465170575220885

 

[BristolOx]

I haven't seen anything about the pitch being lowered, I do like the way MK has that.

I was going to say that an underpass wouldn't be possible as you can't get under the A34, but I realise it's just meant as a means to cross the road once you've made it over the bridge. The problem with that is the space on the otherside of the road has been sold for housing / isn't ours. At least that's my assumption.

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

I've been on the forums of other clubs to keep them engaged and because they wanted to be kept informed. Some responses from Brighton:

 

[Ovaltoyou]

I hope there is not too much sun on match days, that shadow on the pitch looks awful.

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

Comment from the Norwich forum:

 

[bazzer9461]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711465170575220885

But @Paul P is there any room for graffiti in the men’s toilets for the gossip?

 

[Matt W]

Wasn't it Christa that once mentioned "Hoards of overweight men walking through the village"

I often wonder why it is ok to ridicule people on appearance in this way? Would it be ok to describe members of FOSB physically online? I think no

 

[Johnox37en]

How can anyone object to this fantastic new stadium and all that it stands for, including the knock on effect which will come for the local economy is beyond me. There's always one though!

 

[Scotchegg]

I was very fortunate in being invited to attend a preview reception for the public engagement events to follow.

All I can say is WOW! The designs are incredible and it already feels more like home than the Kassam ever did. It is a thing of beauty inside and out, and there are no shortcuts or half measures involved in this. One example is that there will be a sensory room for children who are neurodiverse, but rather than being hidden under the stand this will have a view of the pitch but with soundproofing for those that find the noise overwhelming.

But what was even more impressive was the people involved. I spoke with the architect, someone from Fabrik who are responsible for the landscape design, the team behind the transport plans, and those who have helped put these engagement events together. They are all really impressive people and you already get the feeling that this is more than just another project for them. They were just as excited about showing off their work as I was to see it, and they all spoke with genuine passion for what is to come.

Tim Williams was also there are spoke very well about the stadium project but also why it is essential that the club is protected through this so that we never again face the same situation as we have with Kassam. Niall McWilliams was there and whilst I didn't get to speak to him for long, it is clear that he lives and breathes this project and deserves huge credit for getting is this far. I also spoke with Mick (fax machine) Brown and it was great to see someone who has been involved with our club for 50 years beaming with excitement about the stadium, especially as he is a Kidlington lad. If Niall is the man that gets us into the new stadium, then Mick is the man who pretty much kept the club alive long enough for this to happen!

There were also a number of local councillors there for OCC, CDC and parish councils, and also the miserable looking Ms McIvor. Sadly she left before I had to opportunity to have a chat!! I did speak with some of the councillors, and whilst a few still had reservations it felt like others were more understanding. Nigel Simpson is a councillor that has been very supportive, and he and his family are season ticket holders. He's a great ally, and he's not alone. He was describing how both Tories and Labour are supportive in principle. He's also not a huge fan of Mr Middleton!!!

If you get the opportunity then please get yourselves along to the engagement events, and make sure you share your views too. This is now feeling very real, but we all still have a huge role to play in getting this to planning. Now is our time to Stand United.

 

[Matt W]

To be fair she’s described me pretty well

Are you the old prolific Eric from back in the day on here? if so welcome back