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Nelson's replacement?
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Surely that depends if he has another offer on the table. In his position surely you do what he is doing and say nothing until he has it sorted. We do tend to want to look badly on players for doing exactly what we would do
If I was looking to change job I would find a new one before resigning from the old, is this any different ?
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It all depends on job and how you get on with the company.
He hasn't signed a contract so the writing is on the wall. He will have had approaches via his agent etc and to have had no contact is suprising. His leaving is not surprising and he knows what is on the table and whether he is considering it or not.
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He's out of contract on 30th June regardless! It's not like he's resigning a position, it's a fixed term appointment.
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Level: Callum O'Dowda
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He made it pretty clear he was likely to be off. He told the club he wanted to play in the Championship. That might not happen but bigger clubs than us will want him.
Alright throwing him an improved contract after the season had ended and after he'd told the club of his ideal intentions. Maybe instead of stripping him of the captaincy and halting October contract discussions wasn't the best idea.
He's been a great servant and owes us nothing
Alright throwing him an improved contract after the season had ended and after he'd told the club of his ideal intentions. Maybe instead of stripping him of the captaincy and halting October contract discussions wasn't the best idea.
He's been a great servant and owes us nothing
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He has been a very professional player , wouldn't say a great servant but he hasn't let us down on the pitch and he did the same with contract with Plymouth so not a great suprise to do the same with us
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i thought the captaincy was removed because he or his agent would not discuss/negociate a new contract?
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Why? He would have left anyway. He played far better when he was not captain in my view (got better as the season went on)
Maybe he was better without the armband and it was a good move?
Mystery Yellow
Level: Chris Maguire
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Totally agree Simon,
Curtis Nelson done a great job for us we put a offer on the table if he wanted to stay (by a current date) but we all knew he was likely to move on (wishing to getting championship football) but if it is a big club like Sunderland or Ipswich so what, for me them 2 should expect to go up next season if the recruit well then Nelson should get his wish of championship football (bar a year later)
It time to move on we need to find a decent replacement towards his level
Gary Baldi
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Good luck to him (apart from is he goes to Sunderland 
), but we move on.
), but we move on.
Scotchegg
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He has been offered a number of improved deals but turned them down as he has ambitions to player as high up the pyramid as possible. That's his choice, and he deserves respect for playing out his contract without dropping form.
It has nothing to do with the captaincy, or any negotiations on the clubs part! But why let the facts get in the way of another little dig!
That cliche has always been a pet hate of mine.
Nelson (and all other players) are “employees”. If anyone are “servants”, ‘tis we, the long-suffering fans.
Very few “servants” have considerably more comfortable lifestyles than those they “serve”!
What if the best offer comes along in the very week before the season starts? Why would he burn his bridges at Oxford in case nothing better comes? Why should “more than enough time” suit Oxford fans online and not Curtis Nelson?
I’m as disappointed as anyone that he’s leaving but we really can’t get irate about someone else doing the best they can for themselves!
I guess, removing the captaincy wouldn’t have helped with the negotiations.
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But we’re not talking about him telling the club he’s holding out for better, rather the fact that neither he nor his agent have said anything to the club. That’s the bit that irks me.
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Scotchegg
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Negotiations had come to an end, and Nelson's form (along with others) wasn't great. The captaincy was removed, Nelson could focus on his game and he put in a shift until the last game. This is to the credit of Nelson, but also Robinson who put the team before an individual.
I don't blame Nelson for wanting better opportunities or a big pay rise. Football is a short career and he has to be a little selfish in getting what he wants. Equally, I don't blame the club. We moan about 'money men' being involved in the game but then expect us to break the bank to sign or keep the best players.
Nelson was offered a very good deal but turned it down. If he doesn't get a better offer and chooses to stay then fantastic. If he goes, then good luck. That is football and no blame either way is necessary.
He’s not obliged to. He’s still an employee of Oxford United for another two weeks. Oxford have offered a contract and set their deadline. If Curtis doesn’t meet the deadline Oxford can deal with that as they will. He really isn’t required to trip himself up out of sheer courtesy to us. I’m as irked as you are but we can reasonably assume he’s not signing and move on.
I beg to differ re Nelson’s form. I actually think he was coming back from a long term injury and his performances improved week on week.
The captaincy costs nothing financially, so feel if we really wanted to give it our best chance of retaining him it certainly didn’t help by removing it from him. What was good from this was, Nelson remained the consummate professional football player he is.
Having said that, I feel other factors have impacted his thoughts e.g. our poor form the first few months of the season, financial shenanigans throughout leading to doubt of club’s ownership/ambitions of ever reaching the Championship which Nelson basically joined for. Basically the goal posts had shifted from the ones he heard/saw when he signed.
Question, not sure how you know what deal Nelson’s been offered?
But, however which way you look at it, the removal of his captaincy certainly wouldn’t have helped which even you should understand or may be not.
Brahma
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You don't know very much.
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You'd be surprised!!
And for someone who knows so little, isn't it amazing that I seem to get most things right, whereas the in the knows get so much wrong?!
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This exchange is a new low. If someone knows something tell us, but don’t go around giving hints and making out you’re in the know. We need to sign someone!
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I think we need a few signings ....cabin (waiting for signings) fever is starting to spread..
FalmouthOx
Level: Callum O'Dowda
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Football today is a shorter career game that it was 20 years ago. Players seal 2-3 deals, and are 6-12m away from leaving when they finally hit form (RD?) and we then squeal about them maybe leaving for "nothing". Just commodities. Apart from the superstars making 20+ (and grant you theres a lot of seriously overpaid s**t we will never even see on the telly) a lot of footballers especially in L1/L2 live a paltry exitstence. Even 4k-5k a week is not mind blowing given the length of their paying careers. Beano is our hero and as broke as many!!. I could never quit either my current job or my passive income from online poker to risk playing CF professionally for OUFC @ that level. Many will be in the same boat - footballers careers ends at 35+!! I'm way ahead of the guy making even 20k a week for 2 years in terms of expected lifetime earnings - theirs is all stacked at the short end. But if I was a CF scoring goals or a wing back with a love of w*****g in public I would always look to leverage and leave? We are not the holy grail- just another stepping stone towards it. How would YOU play the hand?
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Cardiff then!
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Cardiff agree deal to sign Curtis Nelson amid Sunderland interest
The 26-year-old is a free agent as his contract ends this month and, despite interest from Sunderland, he is expected to sign a deal for Neil Warnock and join Cardiff City in the Championship.
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I’d much prefer to see him go to Cardiff than a league one team. Good move for him too. Thanks for everything Curtis!Cardiff agree deal to sign Curtis Nelson amid Sunderland interest
The 26-year-old is a free agent as his contract ends this month and, despite interest from Sunderland, he is expected to sign a deal for Neil Warnock and join Cardiff City in the Championship.www.dailymail.co.uk
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Good for him.
He said that he wanted to leave to play in the Championship and he is good enough to play there.
I am.pleased that he appears to be going there rather than to a League 1 club.
Good luck Curtis.
He said that he wanted to leave to play in the Championship and he is good enough to play there.
I am.pleased that he appears to be going there rather than to a League 1 club.
Good luck Curtis.
ToTheManorBorn
Level: Mateo Corbo
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Cardiff is a genuinely sound more. And if it goes well they are another selling club from which he could move on again into the Premier Division in a couple of years. So Curtis, well done, thank you and good luck.
Didcotox
Level: Chris Maguire
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Never understand the “short career” argument. They are able to get other jobs once their football career has ended and earn a normal salary.
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Cardiff will be a good move for him. Always seen as a solid Championship club that got lucky with a couple of PL seasons, and as a result they've remained a little more grounded than some teams who've gone down. Warnock is an old school manager who will support and develop Nelson and will hopefully mean that he's not only going as a squad player but one who will have a fair chance to establish himself.
Oxford have done all they could, but more money, better football and a bigger club are hard to turn down. Good luck to Curtis and we look forward to seeing his replacement!
Oxford have done all they could, but more money, better football and a bigger club are hard to turn down. Good luck to Curtis and we look forward to seeing his replacement!
