Ex-Player Thread John Mousinho

yellowbow said:
It can’t really be argued that Mous did exceptionally well there this season. Not a huge budget - not sure how it compared to ours - and injuries to key players, but they stayed up comfortably in the end with a tricky run in.

He got them fighting when it mattered, as we found out first hand.
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Let’s not let emotions about a former player cloud our judgement of him..he did well to keep them up, he did a good job, but I can’t see where the hype comes from that justifies an exceptional label.
 
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Portsmouth’s survival is the most underrated story of the season

Portsmouth have one of the best managers in the country. They are one of the most sustainable clubs. The important question: can you keep rebottling lightning?
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It's behind a paywall unfortunately, but just before the Pay Us or Get Fucked message appears, you can read the sub header that calls Mous 'One of the best managers around' or words to that effect.
 
Eaststanding said:
Let’s not let emotions about a former player cloud our judgement of him..he did well to keep them up, he did a good job, but I can’t see where the hype comes from that justifies an exceptional label.
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Hold on a sec. Lots of people saying Bloomers did a good job despite 2 wins in 8 and us going down with as much fight as a wet paper bag.

If that’s the case, surely Mous with a lesser budget, less spent, keeping them up comfortably is comparably exceptional?
 
greatunclekip said:
Hold on a sec. Lots of people saying Bloomers did a good job despite 2 wins in 8 and us going down with as much fight as a wet paper bag.

If that’s the case, surely Mous with a lesser budget, less spent, keeping them up comfortably is comparably exceptional?
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How long has Mousinho been at Portsmouth compared to Bloomfield at Oxford?
 
greatunclekip said:
Hold on a sec. Lots of people saying Bloomers did a good job despite 2 wins in 8 and us going down with as much fight as a wet paper bag.

If that’s the case, surely Mous with a lesser budget, less spent, keeping them up comfortably is comparably exceptional?
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I’m not buying that narrative.
Bloomfield failed to keep us up, he did a better job than Rowett would likely have done given the trajectory he had us on, but I’d say he gave it a good go, and that’s it.
If you want it in black and white, Bloomfield failed in his objective, Mousinho succeeded, he did ok.
But that’s it.
 
Eaststanding said:
I’m not buying that narrative.
Bloomfield failed to keep us up, he did a better job than Rowett would likely have done given the trajectory he had us on, but I’d say he gave it a good go, and that’s it.
If you want it in black and white, Bloomfield failed in his objective, Mousinho succeeded, he did ok.
But that’s it.
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So if Bloomfield takes us up as champions and keeps us up for two seasons he’ll have done ok?
 
ubermeistervonmeat said:
Not really the point - he got them fighting when it mattered as has been said above - Bloomfield did not in fact arguably the opposite with negative tactics - hence they will be in Champ next year and we won't be
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Bloomfield is guilty of some awful mistakes, but had he had a full season we would most likely be fine. Mousinho had a full season with his squad.
 
greatunclekip said:
But he also got them promoted as comfortable champions. So that adds further credence to him having done an exceptional job surely?
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He's done well, but exceptional feels like an exaggeration.

They picked up form at the end of the season when it was most needed, we picked it up earlier and unfortunately we couldn't maintain that form when other teams around us kept getting freak results in their favour consistently.
 
90syeIlow said:
He's done well, but exceptional feels like an exaggeration.

They picked up form at the end of the season when it was most needed, we picked it up earlier and unfortunately we couldn't maintain that form when other teams around us kept getting freak results in their favour consistently.
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The same freak results which tend to happen at the end of most seasons - simple fact is he has shown over the last few seasons that he is a far better manager than Bloomfield
 
ubermeistervonmeat said:
The same freak results which tend to happen at the end of most seasons - simple fact is he has shown over the last few seasons that he is a far better manager than Bloomfield
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Mousinho has had the benefit of being employed at his position for much longer and given time when he could easily have been sacked.

I'm refusing to compare the two until Bloomfield has had a full season here.
 
Since Bloomfield’s first game in charge with us, Pompey have won 7 games, Oxford have won 6. When you look at losses, Bloomfield has lost 8, Pompey 9 so I am not sure Mous is that far ahead of Bloomfield when comparing the two since MB took over here.
 
Steve Gilbert said:
Since Bloomfield’s first game in charge with us, Pompey have won 7 games, Oxford have won 6. When you look at losses, Bloomfield has lost 8, Pompey 9 so I am not sure Mous is that far ahead of Bloomfield when comparing the two since MB took over here.
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It's just because Portsmouth finished the season well.

Kip and others won't mention the ridiculous run of poor form they've had multiple times this season.
 
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90syeIlow said:
It's just because Portsmouth finished the season well.

Kip and others won't mention the ridiculous run of poor they've had multiple times this season.
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But they finished above us in League 1. Des did an amazing job. They finished above us last season. Rowett did a great job.

They stayed up this season as Bloomers was pulling off his now annual relegation trick. Bloomers apparently did well.

All on a lesser budget and a crippling injury list.

There is of course nuance but anyone not thinking Mous has not done superbly is not really playing ball.
 
greatunclekip said:
But they finished above us in League 1. Des did an amazing job. They finished above us last season. Rowett did a great job.

They stayed up this season as Bloomers was pulling off his now annual relegation trick. Bloomers apparently did well.

All on a lesser budget and a crippling injury list.

There is of course nuance but anyone not thinking Mous has not done superbly is not really playing ball.
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Flipping heck, it’s not often you get a triple negative. Fair play. Can you tell me what it means, please?
 
greatunclekip said:
But they finished above us in League 1. Des did an amazing job. They finished above us last season. Rowett did a great job.

They stayed up this season as Bloomers was pulling off his now annual relegation trick. Bloomers apparently did well.

All on a lesser budget and a crippling injury list.

There is of course nuance but anyone not thinking Mous has not done superbly is not really playing ball.
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So Mous & Bloomfield have done pretty much the same when it comes to results since MB took over, yet Mous has done a superb job and Bloomfield has failed?

I’ve thought we were down since Charlton away, the damage was done long before Bloomfield took over.
 
greatunclekip said:
But they finished above us in League 1. Des did an amazing job. They finished above us last season. Rowett did a great job.

They stayed up this season as Bloomers was pulling off his now annual relegation trick. Bloomers apparently did well.

All on a lesser budget and a crippling injury list.

There is of course nuance but anyone not thinking Mous has not done superbly is not really playing ball.
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Look at the form table since Bloomfield took over - we are not in the relegation zone based on it.

We are relegated because of the damage done beforehand, poor individual errors, relegation rivals going on unbeaten runs as well as fearful tactics from MB at times when we needed to go for results. MB is not the one and only definitive reason why we are playing in League One next season.
 
90syeIlow said:
Look at the form table since Bloomfield took over - we are not in the relegation zone based on it.

We are relegated because of the damage done beforehand, poor individual errors, relegation rivals going on unbeaten runs as well as fearful tactics from MB at times when we needed to go for results. MB is not the one and only definitive reason why we are playing in League One next season.
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I never said he was.same as he wasn’t at Luton last season. But he is a key part in not being able to get enough available points. As he was at Luton.
 
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