Ex-Player Thread Gavin Whyte

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We as a club should sit him down, give him another year on his contract and a pay rise, we need to look after our best players - And KEEP them AKA Nelson, let’s hope we have learnt our lesson, same can be said for Dickie and Branagan amongst others.
 
derek said:
I'm not sure there is a lesson to learn from the Nelson situation. The club was fully aware of the need to get him to sign a new contract, but he turned the offers down.
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I know it looks likely he's off but maybe well hopefully the board now on board so to speak can make him an offer of which he would seriously look at and consider.
 
Things change quickly in football including budgets.

As Scotch said, we've saved massively on Holmes and Carruthers (who were both on staggering weekly wages - a la Roofey speculation :D), so without replacing them two - you'd already be well under the budget afforded this season. It's not a big issue.

We will probably see the likes of Shearer, McMahon, Jonte Smith, Nelson, Raglan, maybe Keheller and Obika go. We've sent Kashi, Graham and Samir off home. Question marks over Napa and Hall and James Henry for me.

That's an awful awful lot of money saved yet we've kept the nucleus of our key players together. Blimey half that lot were not even near the first team.

Karl has a s**t load of money to spend and I doubt many people will argue with the speculative opinion above.
 
Nelson will want to move on, just as you might move to a better job. We can’t offer him 10k a week and home crowds of 20,000
 
ljs said:
With the reduced playing budget...?
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One assumes the overall budget will be less without the extras of this season but no-one at this stage has suggested in real terms that would be the case..being more judicious with Prem/Champ loans not withstanding.
 
derek said:
I'm not sure there is a lesson to learn from the Nelson situation. The club was fully aware of the need to get him to sign a new contract, but he turned the offers down.
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When did they first offer him a new contract? How much was it? Are you saying at no point in his time here, perhaps a year after joining, would he have signed say an extra 1 or 2 year extension, for the money we spent on, say, Pelaski or Jamie Hanson?
 
Simon Bradders said:
Things change quickly in football including budgets.

As Scotch said, we've saved massively on Holmes and Carruthers (who were both on staggering weekly wages - a la Roofey speculation :D), so without replacing them two - you'd already be well under the budget afforded this season. It's not a big issue.

We will probably see the likes of Shearer, McMahon, Jonte Smith, Nelson, Raglan, maybe Keheller and Obika go. We've sent Kashi, Graham and Samir off home. Question marks over Napa and Hall and James Henry for me.

That's an awful awful lot of money saved yet we've kept the nucleus of our key players together. Blimey half that lot were not even near the first team.

Karl has a s**t load of money to spend and I doubt many people will argue with the speculative opinion above.
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In that case, I eagerly await our signing of a proven 20 goals a season striker (not the North Leigh lad).
 
HampshireYellow said:
When did they first offer him a new contract? How much was it? Are you saying at no point in his time here, perhaps a year after joining, would he have signed say an extra 1 or 2 year extension, for the money we spent on, say, Pelaski or Jamie Hanson?
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How do you know we didn't try very hard and offered what we could?
From all that I gave read Nelson is very highly thought of. Tiger and DE would be fully aware of the value if Nelson with a contract.
His injury probably screwed up getting a very good price for him last summer.
I suspect that Nelson would only have considered staying had we gone up.
 
HampshireYellow said:
When did they first offer him a new contract? How much was it? Are you saying at no point in his time here, perhaps a year after joining, would he have signed say an extra 1 or 2 year extension, for the money we spent on, say, Pelaski or Jamie Hanson?
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What @Foley said.
 
Gavin Whyte won’t play against QPR because he’s been given an extra week off due to his exertions for NI - er, that happened at the tmstart of ore-season, right? Hasn’t he already played minutes against in other friendlies?

Hmmm, that doesn’t make sense. Either he’s injured or all is not well.
 
OxfordYankee said:
Gavin Whyte won’t play against QPR because he’s been given an extra week off due to his exertions for NI - er, that happened at the tmstart of ore-season, right? Hasn’t he already played minutes against in other friendlies?

Hmmm, that doesn’t make sense. Either he’s injured or all is not well.
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cue 10 pages of mass panic, speculation and wild rumours until tuesday friendly and he’s on the team sheet.
personally don’t think there’s anything to read into this but if he were to go it would be for a huge sum and we may already have found a replacement (see i’ve started the speculation already)
 
AbbeyOx said:
cue 10 pages of mass panic, speculation and wild rumours until tuesday friendly and he’s on the team sheet.
personally don’t think there’s anything to read into this but if he were to go it would be for a huge sum and we may already have found a replacement (see i’ve started the speculation already)
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Are you ITK? source? Did @ECYellow tell you? Oh GOD!!!! ;)
 
It looks like the club are concerned about his hamstrings, so are ensuring he has the appropriate rest time. Back in training on Monday, same as Rob Hall.
 
I think he’s quality. We’ll be lucky to hang on to him. Maybe his absence today was genuine but wouldn’t be surprised if he is going. Bloody hope not
 
Shaun Rice said:
I think he’s quality. We’ll be lucky to hang on to him. Maybe his absence today was genuine but wouldn’t be surprised if he is going. Bloody hope not
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MAYBE his absence was genuine?! Despite it being mentioned at the begin of the week as a way to ease him back gradually after his season was extended with international games? And the fact that he was at the ground modeling the new away kit?!
 
OxfordYankee said:
Gavin Whyte won’t play against QPR because he’s been given an extra week off due to his exertions for NI - er, that happened at the tmstart of ore-season, right? Hasn’t he already played minutes against in other friendlies?

Hmmm, that doesn’t make sense. Either he’s injured or all is not well.
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Seriously? The lad hasn't stopped after his travels with NI and this is part of his individualised preseason plan, give your head a wobble he isn't going anywhere unless it's silly money.
 
Scotchegg said:
MAYBE his absence was genuine?! Despite it being mentioned at the begin of the week as a way to ease him back gradually after his season was extended with international games? And the fact that he was at the ground modeling the new away kit?!
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Yeah but clubs say crap like that sometimes when it ain’t true. Funny how illnesses, injuries sometimes occur right before a player is off ;-)
I know the club can do no wrong in your eyes but they don’t always tell the 100% truth.

As for “easing him back in gradually” that’s already happened. I think that’s where the speculation comes from. That and the fact that I don’t think any of us would be surprised if it were announced he’s signed for a championship side.

Maybe that was what KR was talking about when he said about players he thought were out of our reach were back on?
Maybe the reason for all this delay is we’re wait for Whyte to leave before we can sign even better players than we were looking at?

I had no idea he was at the ground today. Didn’t even see the new kit until I looked online.
But just because he was modelling it don’t mean jack. John Lundstram was the main face of our 2017/18 kit launch mid July but by the 25th he was gone.

Anyway my point was even if the absence is genuine. I have no idea. I would not be surprised if he was off.
 
dickwalton1964 said:
They’re seriously taking the p*ss at £1.5m. I’d value Whyte at £3m plus and as it’s Cardiff I’d stick £2m on the price for Nelson and ask for £5m for Whyte.
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Not surprising that clubs like Cardiff are in for him, he is a class act and that would be the right sort of step up for him if he were to go.

I’d also put him at £3 mill plus sell ons etc.

I’ve got no issue if we sell him at a decent price and reinvest a sensible proportion. That is the model and it makes sense.

Interesting to see the reaction on here if he does go for under £2 mill. Also interesting to see how Tiger plays this if cast iron bids come in.
 
Upthecowboys said:
Not surprising that clubs like Cardiff are in for him, he is a class act and that would be the right sort of step up for him if he were to go.

I’d also put him at £3 mill plus sell ons etc.

I’ve got no issue if we sell him at a decent price and reinvest a sensible proportion. That is the model and it makes sense.

Interesting to see the reaction on here if he does go for under £2 mill. Also interesting to see how Tiger plays this if cast iron bids come in.
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Used to be the model, under Apples and Eales. We havent been told what the model is now.
 
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