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He can do what he likes obviously. But my point was/is that if he'd got us in the Playoffs or promoted, he'd have been on the radar of much bigger clubs than Bristol City. The fact that he skipped off immediately suggests that a) he's chasing the money and b) he didn't think he could get us promoted. Look at the current PL managers. I reckon at least 15 of them proved their creds by getting promotion at smaller clubs. By the way, chasing the money is fine, but I think what annoyed so many people is that it exposed all his management guff as sanctimonious bs.I don't think Manning leaving is as straight forward as you make it out to be i.e doesn't believe in himself, didn't think he could get us up etc. It might make some people feel better to think those the were the reasons. Reality is Bristol City are a bigger club than us, playing consistently in a higher division who were able to offer significantly more in wages. I think a better argument would be that he went there because he does believe in himself and that he had no emotional attachment to Oxford.
He can do what he likes obviously. But my point was/is that if he'd got us in the Playoffs or promoted, he'd have been on the radar of much bigger clubs than Bristol City. The fact that he skipped off immediately suggests that a) he's chasing the money and b) he didn't think he could get us promoted. Look at the current PL managers. I reckon at least 15 of them proved their creds by getting promotion at smaller clubs. By the way, chasing the money is fine, but I think what annoyed so many people is that it exposed all his management guff as sanctimonious bs.
I think there’s more dead wood mate, dont forget Findlay, Marcus browne, seddon,Weakest league L1, probably in a generation - certainly in my recent memory. Sitting clear second in November, a time scale when the league has settled down and you expect current positions to be a reasonable guide as to how the rest of the season might go. I’ve not seen a stand out side in the entire division, in fact I can’t recall who but the best side I’ve seen at ours over 90 minutes was a team in the bottom half and one we beat on the day/night - Charlton maybe ? Exeter possibly. To say we could never get promoted and there was hangover from KR ? Really ? What’s the hangover ? Elliott Moore, who he signed, has been our stand out player. McGuane, who he signed, has been not far behind (certainly early season), Cairon Brown, who he signed, has been exceptional bar the last two or three games. There’s a bit of dead wood left - Henry, Murphy etc - but come on ! There’s not masses of Robinson finger prints left on this side bar the ones I mention who have been among our top five players over the season.
What we need is a good DOF behind himDon't think DES will know what to do with the players once they come back still say he's out of his DEPTH we are going into a downward spiral with him in charge we need a new MANAGER
But you don’t win games with 11 players you need a strong bench which is what we’ll have when injured players returnBrowne or Edwards only one of them would start, and only then if we dropped one our 2 new wingers.
Did we not sign any new fans in the January transfer window? Could definitely do with some fresh impetus and get rid of the deadwood.So we have a great window and play great against Pompey and we’re praising Des.
We draw with Reading…. it’s Des out!!!!
Good lord, don’t know about a new manager….we need new fans!!
He can do what he likes obviously. But my point was/is that if he'd got us in the Playoffs or promoted, he'd have been on the radar of much bigger clubs than Bristol City. The fact that he skipped off immediately suggests that a) he's chasing the money and b) he didn't think he could get us promoted. Look at the current PL managers. I reckon at least 15 of them proved their creds by getting promotion at smaller clubs. By the way, chasing the money is fine, but I think what annoyed so many people is that it expoI don't think Manning leaving is as straight forward as you make it out to be i.e doesn't believe in himself, didn't think he could get us up etc. It might make some people feel better to think those the were the reasons. Reality is Bristol City are a bigger club than us, playing consistently in a higher division who were able to offer significantly more in wages. I think a better argument would be that he went there because he does believe in himself and that he had no emotional attachment to Oxford.
"Get out, Brown!" For anyone under the age of 50, this is what an old bloke (in the 1970's) on the Beech Road used to shout every game, normally after about ten minutes. He'd keep up a stream of abuse for the full 90 minutes. He showed impressive stamina.Horton Out
Haha I remember thatHe can do what he likes obviously. But my point was/is that if he'd got us in the Playoffs or promoted, he'd have been on the radar of much bigger clubs than Bristol City. The fact that he skipped off immediately suggests that a) he's chasing the money and b) he didn't think he could get us promoted. Look at the current PL managers. I reckon at least 15 of them proved their creds by getting promotion at smaller clubs. By the way, chasing the money is fine, but I think what annoyed so many people is that it expo
"Get out, Brown!" For anyone under the age of 50, this is what an old bloke (in the 1970's) on the Beech Road used to shout every game, normally after about ten minutes. He'd keep up a stream of abuse for the full 90 minutes. He showed impressive stamina.
So would I, it would be a remarkable achievement given the s**t Manning inherited.At least we were in the playoffs, twice in fact. I would settle for that this season.
I think there’s more dead wood mate, dont forget Findlay, Marcus browne, seddon,
At the moment we have at least 4 wages wasted some of them are huge and this effects how we can do in the transfer window
Your first sentence, as with most things football, is very subjective. I'm not convinced it is better than L1. I just look at some of the players we have had who came from there as established players who didn't set the world alight in L1/L2. Dave Mackay, Sean Claire and others etc plus Kane Hemming was the SPL second top goal scorer when he came to us. I think it is generally a poorer standard than L1.Findlay who is doing pretty well in a league a bit better than L1, Seddon arrived with a decent reputation and has done alright out on loan, although admittedly I wouldn’t want him back. Browne is an enigma, he’s the one genuine match winner we have - when he’s fit obviously. I don’t think we can heap blame on KR for him, everyone recognises his talent and was delighted when he signed. Every squad everywhere will carry a bit of deadwood, there won’t be a club in the country who hasn’t got at least one or two who they’d love to ship out.
Agreed. Can’t believe some of the criticism aimed at Des. He’s come in mid season to an injury ravaged squad who were probable upset by the Snake leaving. He has with Ed, in my opinion, excelled in the transfer window. People should give him time now settle the squad in.So we have a great window and play great against Pompey and we’re praising Des.
We draw with Reading…. it’s Des out!!!!
Good lord, don’t know about a new manager….we need new fans!!
Another interesting thing I noticed about the SPL this weekend - Livingston took 34 fans to Rangers yesterdayYour first sentence, as with most things football, is very subjective. I'm not convinced it is better than L1. I just look at some of the players we have had who came from there as established players who didn't set the world alight in L1/L2. Dave Mackay, Sean Claire and others etc plus Kane Hemming was the SPL second top goal scorer when he came to us. I think it is generally a poorer standard than L1.
Cmon mate Findlay is very ordinary at best and nowhere worth the money. Marcus browne if fit is championship to prem Level but unfortunately he’s done and has been for a while under KR. And Seddon is nowhere good enough, compare him to Leigh and Bennett and it’s enormous. I give a pass on seddon as it was earlier in KRs tenure, but let’s be honest KR wasn’t in his right mind the last year and we are seriously overpaying on wages.Findlay who is doing pretty well in a league a bit better than L1, Seddon arrived with a decent reputation and has done alright out on loan, although admittedly I wouldn’t want him back. Browne is an enigma, he’s the one genuine match winner we have - when he’s fit obviously. I don’t think we can heap blame on KR for him, everyone recognises his talent and was delighted when he signed. Every squad everywhere will carry a bit of deadwood, there won’t be a club in the country who hasn’t got at least one or two who they’d love to ship out.