New Stadium Plans - The Triangle - Planning

Benox said:
Its a cracker. Mention of overseas businessmen, soliciting support from all over the world, aggressive fans, OUFC can stay at the Kassam and to top it all off most of our fans live in Blackbird Leys.

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Was he that oddball who left his camera on for most of the OCC Cabinet meeting? He then waffled on beyond his timeslot.
 
LeftSideLarry said:
A chap called John Kelly, who was previously Oxfordshire’s Chief Safety Officer and the Chairman of the OUFC Safety Advisory Group, has written a fairly lengthy objection, which, to me, is designed to scare Planning Officers and Elected Members with thoughts of their personal liability should something go wrong at the stadium in the future.

Reading his letter, one can only conclude that we’re asking to build the stadium in 1980’s Beirut.

There’s a second objection today, which has been lodged by a lady who has just shouted ‘House!’ in her game of FoSB bingo.
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He did well to get in Hillsborough, Grenfell and the risk of terrorism. I also hadn't considered that the footbridge could fall when people walk over it (football fans after all are well known for knocking bridges over).

Bit disappointed he didn't mention the risk of tsunami, volcanic eruptions, wildfires or those famous Kidlington hurricanes.

For those who havn't read it, I'm not joking that the first things were actually in his objection.
 
Benox said:
He did well to get in Hillsborough, Grenfell and the risk of terrorism. I also hadn't considered that the footbridge could fall when people walk over it (football fans after all are well known for knocking bridges over).

Bit disappointed he didn't mention the risk of tsunami, volcanic eruptions, wildfires or those famous Kidlington hurricanes.

For those who havn't read it, I'm not joking that the first things were actually in his objection.
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He missed out Nukes for a full house.
 
unification said:
Andrew Gant is standing in the Cutteslowe and Sunnymead Ward for Oxford City Council though. He is the incumbent there which is inexplicable to me.

I hope the good folks of that ward do the right thing.
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thats McIvor turf? ... do we know if/who the pro stadium candidates are in that ward?... and could an election leaflet drop be arranged to support them with a few willing volunteers helping the cause
 
Benox said:
He did well to get in Hillsborough, Grenfell and the risk of terrorism. I also hadn't considered that the footbridge could fall when people walk over it (football fans after all are well known for knocking bridges over).

Bit disappointed he didn't mention the risk of tsunami, volcanic eruptions, wildfires or those famous Kidlington hurricanes.

For those who havn't read it, I'm not joking that the first things were actually in his objection.
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It's unedifying to say the least that he's used the deaths of those innocent people in unrelated disasters to try and make point.
 
Orkney Islands Yellow said:
It's unedifying to say the least that he's used the deaths of those innocent people in unrelated disasters to try and make point.
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Especially considering the 35th anniversary of the Hillsborough Disaster was yesterday and was being spoken about in the media.

You would think someone who has been involved in safety at football matches would also know how much stadiums have changed in those years.

In very very poor taste IMO.
 
Concretebob said:
HOUSE!

Any proof of aggressive language by OUFC supporters? Didn't think so.
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TBH there has been plenty about on social media - and by aggressive I don't mean threats to kick their head in, but tone and suggestions of knowing where people live. I did spend some of my time messaging people and telling them they are not helping, but got bored of the abuse back.
 
A lot of support being added to the planning portal today. One very long objection with large amounts of copy and paste from Stratfield Brake's guidance, despite them saying not to do that.

It did prompt me to go back and look at their guidance. This is a particular highlight for me where they question the accuracy of fan travel data because supporters provided the responses:

'The Fan Travel section of the Sustainability Statement is based on surveys of football supporters, many of whom have a vested interest in the stadium moving. This is therefore not a reliable source of data'

That's like saying lets bring in a new health club only for women, but we'll only survey men about their thoughts so it's not biased.
 
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OUFCGav said:
TBH there has been plenty about on social media - and by aggressive I don't mean threats to kick their head in, but tone and suggestions of knowing where people live. I did spend some of my time messaging people and telling them they are not helping, but got bored of the abuse back.
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That's disappointing to hear. Truth be told I've only really engaged in the debate on here and Twitter. Facebook is a bit of a cesspit sadly.
 
OUFCGav said:
TBH there has been plenty about on social media - and by aggressive I don't mean threats to kick their head in, but tone and suggestions of knowing where people live. I did spend some of my time messaging people and telling them they are not helping, but got bored of the abuse back.
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Yeah I've no doubt there has been cases of this. Alongside that we've also seen a lot of attacks and antagonism trying to paint supporters a certain way that have probably tested even the most composed supporters patience. I think overall the message from the majority has been to be honest and upfront, but in a respectful way.
 
Benox said:
A lot of support being added to the planning portal today. One very long objection with large amounts of copy and paste from Stratfield Brake's guidance, despite them saying not to do that.

It did prompt me to go back and look at their guidance. This is a particular highlight for me where they question the accuracy of fan travel data because supports provided the responses:

'The Fan Travel section of the Sustainability Statement is based on surveys of football supporters, many of whom have a vested interest in the stadium moving. This is therefore not a reliable source of data'

That's like saying lets bring in a new health club only for women, but we'll only survey men about their thoughts so it's not biased.
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As we've seen several times throughout this unnecessarily long process, FoSB do not feel football are worthy of taking part in a democratic process or using public facilities like car parks or train stations.
 
Benox said:
Yeah I've no doubt there has been cases of this. Alongside that we've also seen a lot of attacks and antagonism trying to paint supporters a certain way that have probably tested even the most composed supporters patience. I think overall the message from the majority has been to be honest and upfront, but in a respectful way.
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"Mars Express" & "ferretmeister" on the Fail website spring to mind.
 
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