Ex-Staff Liam Manning

dickwalton1964 said:
You’re telling me that if you were offered the opportunity of replacing Des Buckingham with Liam Manning right now, you wouldn’t take it ? I’d snap Mannings hand off in that scenario. We’d have an identity again and a manager who knows how to win in L1 - two things we just don’t have under Des Buckingham.
Click to expand...
Hopefully you’ll snap off the hand that was giving his meaningless fist pumps!

He dumped us and left a very sour taste, exactly as Ian Greaves did all those years ago. Unfortunately the replacement this time doesn’t appear to have a hope of being as remotely successful.

But no way should LM be anywhere near our club again.
 
Chippy said:
Hopefully you’ll snap off the hand that was giving his meaningless fist pumps!

He dumped us and left a very sour taste, exactly as Ian Greaves did all those years ago. Unfortunately the replacement this time doesn’t appear to have a hope of being as remotely successful.

But no way should LM be anywhere near our club again.
Click to expand...

£10,000 a week hike in wages on a 3 year deal. He will get £1.5-£2m pay off if he’s sacked soon. Is there seriously an Oxford fan out there who would not have gone in his position? What do you expect him to do stay just because us fans love the club for a lifetime? These managers are no more than stop gaps in the bigger picture. Klopp says he loves Liverpool - give it a year or two and what are we meant to make of it when he’s running up the touchline in his Real Madrid top in a CL game at Anfield ? All managers are doing the fist pumps, it’s an in the moment reaction to a win that pumps the fans too. 300% wage increase, we are all off no matter what’s been said or done before.
 
dickwalton1964 said:
£10,000 a week hike in wages on a 3 year deal. He will get £1.5-£2m pay off if he’s sacked soon. Is there seriously an Oxford fan out there who would not have gone in his position? What do you expect him to do stay just because us fans love the club for a lifetime? These managers are no more than stop gaps in the bigger picture. Klopp says he loves Liverpool - give it a year or two and what are we meant to make of it when he’s running up the touchline in his Real Madrid top in a CL game at Anfield ? All managers are doing the fist pumps, it’s an in the moment reaction to a win that pumps the fans too. 300% wage increase, we are all off no matter what’s been said or done before.
Click to expand...
Thank God the world isn’t completely populated with Dicks.
 
To be fair, I think most people on here have been capable of taking emotion out of it and understanding the ‘why’ he acted the way he did. I don’t think many on here have written like they don’t understand the financial or career-progression reasons for it.

But when you’re the jilted party in any jilting it makes you angry. And that’s before you get into the nuts and bolts of the ‘how’ he acted.

He was a snake. He put his ambition and personal gain above what we on this forum love. Even if we get why, that doesn’t mean we can’t be angry about it, or not want him anywhere near the club ever again (unless it’s managing in the opposition dugout and getting thrashed whilst an entire stadium hisses and chants ‘you greedy b@stard, you know what you are’ at him)
 
TailsWeWin said:
Thank God the world isn’t completely populated with Dicks.
Click to expand...
Would it make them dicks or is that just the way of the world? You could probably count on one hand players in the last 15 years who have stayed loyal to a club despite being offered significantly more elsewhere, never mind managers
 
There’s a wage increase and there’s a 10 grand a week increase or out it another way £40-45,000 a month. That’s life changing. From £180k to £250k I’d get it that there’s a decision to be made for a relatively young coach regarding the bigger picture - yes, a wage increase but you need to factor in other stuff. 10 grand a week, you aren’t really too bothered about anything - it’s an opportunity you don’t turn down, simple as that.
 
dickwalton1964 said:
There’s a wage increase and there’s a 10 grand a week increase or out it another way £40-45,000 a month. That’s life changing. From £180k to £250k I’d get it that there’s a decision to be made for a relatively young coach regarding the bigger picture - yes, a wage increase but you need to factor in other stuff. 10 grand a week, you aren’t really too bothered about anything - it’s an opportunity you don’t turn down, simple as that.
Click to expand...
He has not had his wage increased by £10,000 a week.
 
Cookie said:
He has not had his wage increased by £10,000 a week.
Click to expand...
According to 888Sport the L1 average manager's salary is 200k. In 2023 The Mirror said a survey showed 'he average salary of a Championship manager three years ago was £800,000', so it's probably increased since then.

10k a week more may not be far off.
 
MustardYellow said:
According to 888Sport the L1 average manager's salary is 200k. In 2023 The Mirror said a survey showed 'he average salary of a Championship manager three years ago was £800,000', so it's probably increased since then.

10k a week more may not be far off.
Click to expand...

My understanding was that Manning was on around £250k with us and is on somewhere around £600k with Bristol City. Not to be sniffed at of course, but equally something that he may regret if sacked and unable to get another decent job again.
 
If Manning had stayed and overseen the same dip in form as Buckingham has (which is entirely possible), there'd be plenty of fans saying he should be sacked - probably the same fans that are saying Buckingham should go.
So it backs up his decision to leave in the first place, financially far better to be facing the sack on a £600k/year 3 year contract than on a 250k 1 year contract. Important time for Manning though, fail at City and as others have said, he starts to look like Appleton, only without the actual sporadic success.

One interesting point for me is the City fans complaining about the number of non-impact injuries they have (hamstring/calf strains etc) - the same types of injuries we suffered with during our injury crisis. I know we replaced the head of performance, but I wonder whether Manning and Hogg's training methods had an impact too.
 
dickwalton1964 said:
£10,000 a week hike in wages on a 3 year deal. He will get £1.5-£2m pay off if he’s sacked soon. Is there seriously an Oxford fan out there who would not have gone in his position? What do you expect him to do stay just because us fans love the club for a lifetime? These managers are no more than stop gaps in the bigger picture. Klopp says he loves Liverpool - give it a year or two and what are we meant to make of it when he’s running up the touchline in his Real Madrid top in a CL game at Anfield ? All managers are doing the fist pumps, it’s an in the moment reaction to a win that pumps the fans too. 300% wage increase, we are all off no matter what’s been said or done before.
Click to expand...
I think you are missing the point. it's not what he did, it's the way he did it. Did Manning not say on the Saturday, words to the affect of, 'nothing to see here', then promptly cleared off the next Tuesday. So he knew all along it was going to happen.
 
Bitter said:
I think you are missing the point. it's not what he did, it's the way he did it. Did Manning not say on the Saturday, words to the affect of, 'nothing to see here', then promptly cleared off the next Tuesday. So he knew all along it was going to happen.
Click to expand...
What did you expect him to say? Football is an industry unlike any other, you're not going to get dragged in front of the office in the real world and get asked about rumor's of you going elsewhere.
 
North Wales Yellow said:
What did you expect him to say? Football is an industry unlike any other, you're not going to get dragged in front of the office in the real world and get asked about rumor's of you going elsewhere.
Click to expand...
I wouldn’t expect the assistant manager to do an interview on the Monday saying that they would definitely be in charge for the game the next day only to then leave and not have the manners to say bye to any of the players and to make sure you really are a s**t house, go in early the next to clear your desk to make sure you don’t see any of the people you’ve just shafted.

I remember a manager discussing a player leaving the club and saying to him, there is a right way and a wrong way to leave a club, make sure you leave in the right way with honesty and integrity and that way no one can have an issue with it.
 
RgYellows said:
Yeah and I’d be worth £10k a week if I scored 5 goals every game, but I don’t.


We can’t spend our playing budget on long service awards.


If you base it on something other than their overall contribution, I think they’re both exceptional value for money.


We are almost certainly paying some of their wages for them to play for someone else, which doesn’t seem the best deal.


To who?


To who?

it’d be superb business to sell an out of contract player, even Kip would agree.


It was described as the rubble from the train wreck. The train wreck was the terrible year of form under KR.


For a couple of years I have wondered if we have a core that thinks it’s better than it is


He did

I haven't seen many people argue that Des improved things so far


and indeed he didn’t!
Click to expand...

Clinical finishing there.
 
Bigdwoolly said:
If Manning had stayed and overseen the same dip in form as Buckingham has (which is entirely possible), there'd be plenty of fans saying he should be sacked - probably the same fans that are saying Buckingham should go.
Click to expand...

Probably also the same ones who were saying Manning should go after two games this season.
 
Steve Gilbert said:
I wouldn’t expect the assistant manager to do an interview on the Monday saying that they would definitely be in charge for the game the next day only to then leave and not have the manners to say bye to any of the players and to make sure you really are a s**t house, go in early the next to clear your desk to make sure you don’t see any of the people you’ve just shafted.

I remember a manager discussing a player leaving the club and saying to him, there is a right way and a wrong way to leave a club, make sure you leave in the right way with honesty and integrity and that way no one can have an issue with it.
Click to expand...
Don't disagree that the way he acted being the scenes was very poor. I just don't think it's fair to scrutinize some of the interviews he did as I can't remember a manager ever being open about leaving in the public domain.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

H
Ex-Staff A Bristol City Fan - U's Thoughts On Liam Manning
3 4 5
Replies
88
Views
10K
West Oxon U’s
West Oxon U’s
captainox
  • Locked
  • Poll
Manager/Coach Life After Manning - New Manager Search
127 128 129
Replies
3K
Views
173K
Northstandboy
Northstandboy
Back
Top Bottom