General New Stadium Plans - The Triangle - Land Deal

[Marked Ox]

This is going to get screenshotted and shared but...

There are three vacancies to be councillors on Kidlington Parish Council

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Bought to my attention by Kidlington Development Watch so they started it! https://mailchi.mp/f27aaf4666f3/kdwnews6may23?e=96097a6d4d

Why residents? Ian Middleton isn't a Kidlington resident is he?

 

[Wandering Yellow]

Could the more active/knowledgeable supporters on this such as @Colin B estimate the chances of the new stadium going ahead? Or is it impossible to make such predictions at this point?

 

[Malc]

16k = under 15k when it's done. It's the Oxford way unfortunately. Thought at first it was a typo.

Why aim to be a top 30 club with this newly enginered reduced capacity. I thought 18k originally was a little underwhelming but I listened to most fair minded points and grew a pair and was sort of happy ish in the end with 18k. Then I saw this and immediately thought of the song oops! I did it again but changed this to oops! we've done it again. Big ideas shot down without a mention and sneeked in the back door. I hope this 'caveat' is a winner because I cannot see it from here (the stadium) and neither will anyone else with 2000 seats lopped off the stadium and dispersed with overnight. What on earth will we forfeit next?

And before the pro chunterings start on the keyboard...I've seen 'international stadium' being mentioned more and more with the world class facility being used less and less. Just saying.

After 20 odd years of sitting in a 3 stand fiasco it has of today the beginnings of a deja vu feeling.

I get the Bournemouth top 20 thing with a 11k capacity but they have issues with increasing but we have the chance of doing it right first time around and then start surrendering by the looks of it. Cost effectiveness?

Should've started at 21k and took a hit to 18k. I despair.

10k in a dead rubber tomorrow-15k in a game where we could get 18k in a new stadium? Enjoy the same old same old.

Measure twice cut once.

Don't give them your name Pike.

Think back a year. We wanted Stratford Brake. A group of opponents convinced/frightened a local council to not give up the lease. They are the ones to blame!
The owners have had to slim the stadium down because of those nice people.
Be happy that we could get the Triangle.

 

[Smokey’s Chair]

16k = under 15k when it's done. It's the Oxford way unfortunately. Thought at first it was a typo.

Why aim to be a top 30 club with this newly enginered reduced capacity. I thought 18k originally was a little underwhelming but I listened to most fair minded points and grew a pair and was sort of happy ish in the end with 18k. Then I saw this and immediately thought of the song oops! I did it again but changed this to oops! we've done it again. Big ideas shot down without a mention and sneeked in the back door. I hope this 'caveat' is a winner because I cannot see it from here (the stadium) and neither will anyone else with 2000 seats lopped off the stadium and dispersed with overnight. What on earth will we forfeit next?

And before the pro chunterings start on the keyboard...I've seen 'international stadium' being mentioned more and more with the world class facility being used less and less. Just saying.

After 20 odd years of sitting in a 3 stand fiasco it has of today the beginnings of a deja vu feeling.

I get the Bournemouth top 20 thing with a 11k capacity but they have issues with increasing but we have the chance of doing it right first time around and then start surrendering by the looks of it. Cost effectiveness?

Should've started at 21k and took a hit to 18k. I despair.

10k in a dead rubber tomorrow-15k in a game where we could get 18k in a new stadium? Enjoy the same old same old.

Measure twice cut once.

Don't give them your name Pike.

I hardly ever post - but this is a top top post….

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

Why residents? Ian Middleton isn't a Kidlington resident is he?

No rules about where councillors live and where they can represent. I think the lady who got the wording of the poll question amended would make a wonderful councillor.

 

[WuTang]

Prefer a smaller, well designed, noisy 16k stadium with safe standing than a 25k eyesore full of empty seats each game. The latter would totally ruin the experience for me. If we somehow became a mainstay in the Premier League I'm sure there would be opportunity to expand one of the stands and increase slightly, you can even dig deeper these days!

Ambition is well and good, but over 30 years every club will experience highs and lows, riding high and sinking down again. I would rather ride high with 16k loyal OUFC fans in a 16k stadium, which is then also suitable for future years when we may drop into League One on similar attendances or slightly lower attendances.

This is a stadium for life, not just some wishful future glory days!

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

16000 is great. Its that or have an MK Dons scenario.

 

[Scotchegg]

A couple of things to note from this.

Firstly, there has been little talk about reduced capacity prior to this when NMcW could have potentially used it as an olive branch to those opposing the stadium - "we've listened and have reduced the capacity to have less impact etc etc".

Secondly, @Colin B has spoken of potential caveats and does not appears overly concerned.

Together not only do I have confidence that this won't be a problem, but I actually have more confidence that we are doing everything needed to ensure that this goes through each of the planning stages successfully and without unnecessary delay - which is the most important thing right now.

 

[Bacon]

16k = under 15k when it's done. It's the Oxford way unfortunately. Thought at first it was a typo.

Why aim to be a top 30 club with this newly enginered reduced capacity. I thought 18k originally was a little underwhelming but I listened to most fair minded points and grew a pair and was sort of happy ish in the end with 18k. Then I saw this and immediately thought of the song oops! I did it again but changed this to oops! we've done it again. Big ideas shot down without a mention and sneeked in the back door. I hope this 'caveat' is a winner because I cannot see it from here (the stadium) and neither will anyone else with 2000 seats lopped off the stadium and dispersed with overnight. What on earth will we forfeit next?

And before the pro chunterings start on the keyboard...I've seen 'international stadium' being mentioned more and more with the world class facility being used less and less. Just saying.

After 20 odd years of sitting in a 3 stand fiasco it has of today the beginnings of a deja vu feeling.

I get the Bournemouth top 20 thing with a 11k capacity but they have issues with increasing but we have the chance of doing it right first time around and then start surrendering by the looks of it. Cost effectiveness?

Should've started at 21k and took a hit to 18k. I despair.

10k in a dead rubber tomorrow-15k in a game where we could get 18k in a new stadium? Enjoy the same old same old.

Measure twice cut once.

Don't give them your name Pike.

Well said.

Remember when we were promised a shiny new stadium in Greater Leys. 3 stands will do!

 

[Colin B]

Once built it would never get another tier added later though, but I take your point.

Lots of ways of skinning a cat.........................

 

[Scotchegg]

Lots of ways of skinning a cat.........................

That'll upset the vegans!!

 

[Malc]

That'll upset the vegans!!

Not if you don't eat it.

 

[Marked Ox]

Lots of ways of skinning a cat.........................

That'll be Oxford United and supporters being cruel to animals on the next FoSB missive/poster.

 

[Colin B]

Could the more active/knowledgeable supporters on this such as @Colin B estimate the chances of the new stadium going ahead? Or is it impossible to make such predictions at this point?

99% and that's because nothing is ever 100%.

 

[werthersoriginal]

I like 16K. Not half empty most games. And I love the way people are panicking about when we are in the Premiership and playing Liverpool, maybe they won’t be able to get a ticket!!

 

[holdsteady]

Well said.

Remember when we were promised a shiny new stadium in Greater Leys. 3 stands will do!

Just because it happened once doesn’t mean it will happen again though?

 

[Scotchegg]

Not if you don't eat it.

 

[Manorlounger]

A couple of things to note from this.

Firstly, there has been little talk about reduced capacity prior to this when NMcW could have potentially used it as an olive branch to those opposing the stadium - "we've listened and have reduced the capacity to have less impact etc etc".

Secondly, @Colin B has spoken of potential caveats and does not appears overly concerned.

Together not only do I have confidence that this won't be a problem, but I actually have more confidence that we are doing everything needed to ensure that this goes through each of the planning stages successfully and without unnecessary delay - which is the most important thing right now.

You may not be my favourite poster but, at least you read and digest what has been previously posted.
16,000 may not be what was initially suggested but, if one were to read what has been posted, it's not the end of the story.

 

[Bacon]

Just because it happened once doesn’t mean it will happen again though?

You are correct, it doesn’t. But you can see why some people are concerned, surely?

Started off with Stratfield Brake. Then to a 18k world class stadium at The Triangle. Now it’s 16k. What’s next?

 

[SteMerritt]

Seriously