Manager/Coach KREXIT: The 'Robbo Out' thread.

[Paul Cannell]

As UTO said, the owners want to wait til the summer to appoint the new manager. That I can understand. It’s a big appointment and we have to get it right.

What I don’t understand is that they don’t seem to think we can do better than KR between now and May. It’s 1pt from 21 guys, wake up.

Yep. I think they can barely do worse than keeping the manager. What's needed isn't to be clever, it's putting the players who can/want to put in a shift in positions that fit them and the team then playing in a settled way so they can start playing like a unit.

Eidt: obvs it's not helpful that the squad is half-knackered and wholly unbalanced but there it is.

 

[Sarge]

behind the scenes in the board room this afternoon? .....

 

[yellowbow]

Yes I think that's it. As it is we're nailed on to lose to Rovers, whereas with any sort of change we might get a bounce.

It’s a cup final on Saturday. A massive six pointer.

Put yourself in the shoes of anyone associated with Bristol Rovers for a minute. Would you prefer to play us with KR still in charge or would you prefer to come to Grenoble Road with him gone, an instant feel good factor returned amongst the fans and a stadium once again filled with excitement and optimism?

TW is almost trying to get us relegated

 

[Sheik djibouti]

And all of this is increasingly pointing to just how precarious a position the club is currently in.

The whole move is on a knife-edge.

Without it, why would the current owners stick around?

And until it is sorted, why would said owners/financiers give any serious thought to other "complicating factors", such as the current on field performance of the team and manager, especially when all probably agree there is no quick fix to the predicament we find ourselves in...either on or off the pitch?

And yes...they are the ones with the Loot/Lute (delete as applicable*).

 

[RyanioBirdio]

As UTO said, the owners want to wait til the summer to appoint the new manager.

Which from what I was told on Saturday night is a new development in itself, because until then they were still quite comfortable with the idea that he could carry on next season once this silly little relegation nonsense was put to bed.

It seems that he is going to go now, but they seem to be desperate to find the worst way imaginable to handle it. Which is to not handle it for as long as possible, from the looks of it.

 

[Yellow River]

As UTO said, the owners want to wait til the summer to appoint the new manager. That I can understand. It’s a big appointment and we have to get it right.

What I don’t understand is that they don’t seem to think we can do better than KR between now and May. It’s 1pt from 21 guys, wake up.

It’s bizarre. What is the rationale in thinking KR can suddenly turn round? As you say 1 point from 21. It’s not normal thinking. Where has this blind faith come from? It makes no sense.

Another game goes by and this winless run continues. By keeping Robinson in situ the club is reducing the chances of a new manager securing our league 1 status. It’s wreckless.

 

[PQ]

when does KR's current contract expire pls?

 

[Sarge]

when does KR's current contract expire pls?

about 18 months time- maybe a bit less ?

 

[greatunclekip]

My personal opinion?

Whatever is thought about tactics etc, it is only the players who can win games. If ‘they’ are not performing for whatever reason, then there will be no success. It is their responsibility to try harder than they appear to be doing right now.

Surely, if there is dissatisfaction with KRs methods, tactics, etc etc, we would have heard something, but nothing much is coming out of the dressing room. James Henry appears to say it like it is…

Personally I think KR has done the right thing stepping back from things for a few days. With all the vitriolic stuff going around on social meejah, ‘football’ must be the last thing on his mind - it’s all pretty unpleasant for him and his family right now.

You are spot on to be honest. The coach has nothing to do with winning games. Also nothing to do with bringing in the underperforming players, or telling them how to beat teams. People assuming a coach would do that are just naive in fairness.

I don't doubt for a second football is the last thing on his mind. It was in summer as well, hence the sack of shite that arrived that was absolutely nothing to do with Karl, who just needs to think about his family.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Why does 1 point from 21 keep being used as the reason for him to go? That’s 7 games.

We’ve been s**t all season + the 2nd half of the last season. The 3 transfer windows in that time too were rubbish. That’s why he should go.

14 months of decline since the NYD 1-1 awful draw with Cheltenham to start 2022.

 

[Sheik djibouti]

when does KR's current contract expire pls?

End of next season, Tim

 

[YellowSubmarine]

when does KR's current contract expire pls?

Sunday June 30th 2024 officially

 

[Joey]

Why does 1 point from 21 keep being used as the reason for him to go? That’s 7 games.

We’ve been s**t all season + the 2nd half of the last season. The 3 transfer windows in that time too were rubbish. That’s why he should go.

14 months of decline since the NYD 1-1 awful draw with Cheltenham to start 2022.

Usually you can twist statistics to make any argument (see our spectacular unbeaten run with just a couple of wins earlier this season) but whichever way you state it he's been failing massively for a long time.

One of my favourite ways of looks at it is since the fans forum when we were told promotion was still the aim we've taken 11 points from 13 games, which would be 40 over a season and 99% certain to go down (Fleetwood stayed up with 40 last season but that's the exception and won't be enough this year).

For reference Plymouth, who the enlighten one could "see falling away" have picked up 24 from 11, or a nice round 100 over a season.

Sad face.

 

[ChamonixOx]

Before Saturday there was no plans to remove him.
The board aren’t interested in a short term replacement until the end of the season. Obviously would have caretaker(s) until they get their man. But they won’t look to appoint an outsider until just the summer.

A concern is/was if they get a new man in without any chance now of any changes to any of the playing squad, would they get the results needed. Look at Toure, Critchley recently for example. Or even in our past with Rix and Waddock.
But let’s be honest, they won’t do any worse now than what KR is doing.

The hope is/was KR would do enough for a comfortable enough end of the season without the relegation battle we now look to be heading in. And then replace. I’m certain he won’t be here come the summer.
Hopefully he’s gone before the weekend, but like I said, pre match Saturday that was not the plan whatsoever.

@UTO - Has the Board lost interest in your opinion? The failure to remove Robinson certainly lacks ambition, but are there things deeper than this going on in your view?

 

[MJB]

Which from what I was told on Saturday night is a new development in itself, because until then they were still quite comfortable with the idea that he could carry on next season once this silly little relegation nonsense was put to bed.

It seems that he is going to go now, but they seem to be desperate to find the worst way imaginable to handle it. Which is to not handle it for as long as possible, from the looks of it.

It’s so unfortunate for KR that he clearly uses up all of his articulate, considered thoughts when speaking with the Board and then all he has left in interviews is muddled nonsense.

He must be quite the brains trust behind closed doors, given how rapt our leaders are with him.

 

[RyanioBirdio]

It’s bizarre. What is the rationale in thinking KR can suddenly turn round? As you say 1 point from 21. It’s not normal thinking. Where has this blind faith come from? It makes no sense.

Another game goes by and this winless run continues. By keeping Robinson in situ the club is reducing the chances of a new manager securing our league 1 status. It’s wreckless.

The least amount of points the football club has amassed in the last 20 years was in the season we were relegated out of the Football League with 49. We are currently averaging 1.09 points per game this season, which would mean based on the current average, that is where we will end up again. 49 points, and although possibly safe in that scenario, not by much.

Only we aren’t averaging 1.09 points per game in real terms. Across the last seven games, we’re averaging 0.14 points per game. I believe this is now the worst points return in a seven game run since the relegation season of 00/01.

If you include the final eight games of last season, we have taken 44 points from the last 41 league games. That’s 1.07 points per game. For context, the disaster class combo of Clotet and Caretaker Faz managed 1.25 points per game between them in 17/18.

We are not getting better. We are getting worse.

Meanwhile the club is getting more rotten, more unstable, the fan base is becoming increasingly disillusioned with every passing week, and it’s at the point now where not only is there no coming back for the manager what so ever, but the growing ill feeling towards him is going to stick to the board, so that simply removing him won’t instantly galvanise the fan base in a heartbeat.

It’s the behaviour of people who don’t understand the first thing about running a League One club, despite appearing to think that they’re above it.

But then maybe it’s us who are the fools, given we pushed them through the first stage of their pursuit of a new stadium without batting an eyelid, and in return we have a Chairman who is happy to ‘like’ the manager talking utter garbage in the press at a time when the vast majority of fans just want him gone, while refusing to communicate with people directly.

 

[AbsoluteZero]

I've completely changed my mind. The 15% off everything at the club shop is a good enough incentive for us all to suddenly become happy.

 

[Marston Road yellow]

Still nothing. Local rag is saying nothing other than they understand that he’s saying but no sources or comments. At least the mail sees that it’s a story, that has relevance to be commented on. Someone at the club HAS to say something.

I’m guessing that he’s staying and while they say nothing the protests are on him and not them. That will soon change…

 

[Swaby39]

Wonder how many emails Tim’s had today

 

[ChamonixOx]

Free Saturday it is this weekend then - apart from the rugby. Sadly, with the current board, we may all have plenty of free Saturdays in the not-too-distant future!