Transfer News Transfer Window Summer 21

[Nadi-]

We already have Mcnally, Mcguane, Cooper, Stevens aswell as the youth coming through to give experience to and help them move up the ladder aswell as funding the club. I may get shot here but if we had a more experienced centre back last season at the start rather then relying on Atkinson to step up quickly we could of been in the autos rather then just making the play offs.

I think a right back who couldn’t defend, goalkeeper not at the top of his game and missing Cameron brannagan and Alex Gorrin, were more detrimental to our poor start than a 31 year old being centre half

 

[battman]

We were shxt early doors
Clare Ruffels Eastwood all poor
Nothing to do with a centre half

So you're forgetting the times Long had to play centre-half because Atkinson and Mousinho were unavailable? And when Ruffs was injured? Had we signed an experienced CB, Long could have relieved Clare at RB, also meaning our first choice right back wasn't also our back-up CB and LB. Sometimes in football it's not just about the players who were playing, it's the ones who weren't.

 

[Obstructed view]

We already have an asset in Moore

Hopefully if he signs a new contract

 

[RyanioBirdio]

People alway mention Hansons ridiculous wages - can anyone ITK give an idea of what the amount is, since it always seems to be quoted as fact?

He’s on about 3k a week.

 

[Mitcham Exile]

If they announce our new signing and the away kit at the same time, I hope they use the hashtag #WhyteStrip ...

 

[Yellowarmy]

Any further updates on Gavin Whyte and a new defender, UTO, EC and horseman? maybe as we are playing rovers tomorrow Whyte will meet us there from Cardiff.?

 

[Swaby39]

An experienced central defender in their late 20s/early 30s is what we were missing last season. Had we had one, our start may not have been as poor as it was, and we could have pushed for automatic promotion ourselves.

I wouldn’t say that’s accurate at all. For large parts of the season, centre back was not an issue for us in any way. In fact, their 3-way partnership with Stevens was the platform we needed to have such a great second half of the season. Atkinson got in TOTY and Moore was very unlucky not to be.

Our poor start to the season was for lots of reasons but I don’t think any old CB in their mid 20s would have prevented that. Might have helped a bit but as it proved later on, we had one of the best centre backs in the division in there - it was just early days at that point. Lots of things were off to begin with. Every team has the same excuses at the start, everyone buys and sells players. It’s about preparation and mentality - who’s approaching those first games like it’s the run in. Who’s prepared the best; the fittest, the most organised etc.

Having said that, I agree in that I’d rather we didn’t lean on McNally too much so another is needed and I think we all agree on that. It’s certainly the clear gap in the side as every other position is owned by a player we know (as best you can) will produce the goods. McNally may shine, then again, he may not. It’s a formality we get another decent defender in there and rightly so.

 

[beyondthefourth]

23 year old josh knight signed by Peterborough, moving up a standard and sign good youngsters like him and Tomlinson.

So the best young players you can find have already been bought, and if that's been done by Peterborough, then there is a good reason for Beevers to be available that isn't "he's s**t".

Any young players that you can recommend that are actually available?

 

[Nadi-]

So the best young players you can find have already been bought, and if that's been done by Peterborough, then there is a good reason for Beevers to be available that isn't "he's s**t".

Any young players that you can recommend that are actually available?

Mentioned 3 young centre half’s a while back.
Middlesbrough have made a offer on another 23 year old this week, so there’s youngsters good enough for the championship

 

[OX14]

If they announce our new signing and the away kit at the same time, I hope they use the hashtag #WhyteStrip ...

When the away kit is black?

 

[LeftSideBoy]

When the away kit is black?

Is it?

 

[beyondthefourth]

Mentioned 3 young centre half’s a while back.
Middlesbrough have made a offer on another 23 year old this week, so there’s youngsters good enough for the championship

Mayo
Gibson/Brown
Masterson

These sound interesting, loans from above or young player from below?

 

[OX14]

Is it?

I thought I read the away kit is black and the third is white.

 

[Horse]

I suspect Peterborough know Beevers isn’t championship standard but ideal for our league. They’ll want him back again next year when we pass them.

 

[Nadi-]

So you're forgetting the times Long had to play centre-half because Atkinson and Mousinho were unavailable? And when Ruffs was injured? Had we signed an experienced CB, Long could have relieved Clare at RB, also meaning our first choice right back wasn't also our back-up CB and LB. Sometimes in football it's not just about the players who were playing, it's the ones who weren't.

I agree with your comment about the ones who weren’t.
It was a lack of depth at centre half and fullback that was the issue, not their age.
I still don’t think we’ve addressed it, a versatile fullback who’s comfortable on the right/left like Tomlinson.
And another centre half, the lad from forest would be good.
Taylor Moore

I suspect Peterborough know Beevers isn’t championship standard but ideal for our league. They’ll want him back again next year when we pass them.

always good to keep a old one on hand though
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[OX14]

I suspect Peterborough know Beevers isn’t championship standard but ideal for our league. They’ll want him back again next year when we pass them.

Why give him another 3 year contract then? He was also in the league 1 team of the season so not sure how he isn't good enough for the championship.

 

[battman]

I wouldn’t say that’s accurate at all. For large parts of the season, centre back was not an issue for us in any way. In fact, their 3-way partnership with Stevens was the platform we needed to have such a great second half of the season. Atkinson got in TOTY and Moore was very unlucky not to be.

Our poor start to the season was for lots of reasons but I don’t think any old CB in their mid 20s would have prevented that. Might have helped a bit but as it proved later on, we had one of the best centre backs in the division in there - it was just early days at that point. Lots of things were off to begin with. Every team has the same excuses at the start, everyone buys and sells players. It’s about preparation and mentality - who’s approaching those first games like it’s the run in. Who’s prepared the best; the fittest, the most organised etc.

Having said that, I agree in that I’d rather we didn’t lean on McNally too much so another is needed and I think we all agree on that. It’s certainly the clear gap in the side as every other position is owned by a player we know (as best you can) will produce the goods. McNally may shine, then again, he may not. It’s a formality we get another decent defender in there and rightly so.

We certainly got our s**t together for the second half of the season, but we were threadbare at the back at the start of the campaign. Just because Moore and Atkinson were able to both A) stay fit and B) form a strong partnership doesn't mean that the decision was the right one, and it doesn't mean the poor start to the season can be underwritten. Mousinho tried to hobble his way through the season but soon realised that wasn't possible, and we didn't bring in a reinforcement (Grayson) until the end of the January window. Atkinson was in and out of the team at the start due to a mixture of niggles/suspensions and Ruffels was out for a bit too to compound our defensive miseries. The signing of an experienced, capable CB could have worked wonders for a side lacking in experience and bite.

Had we lost one of Moore or Atkinson in the second half of the season, we wouldn't have finished in the play-offs. Moore had to play every league game this season just gone, which is virtually unheard of in the modern era. Also relying on them to be the sole CBs meant we had a lack of tactical flexibility. I'm sure there could've been some games where we needed to mix it up with a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 but couldn't due to the lack of a 3rd fit CB. Imagine what we could have done with Atkinson playing on the left side of a 3 and Clare being pushed up to RWB almost immediately to reduce his defensive struggles.

You can argue it all worked out in the end, but that doesn't mean it can't have worked out a lot better than it did.

 

[bazzer9461]

Things change? Don’t shoot the messenger..

He was just saying

 

[bazzer9461]

When did he say it was happening?

A few posts back yesterday or the day before

 

[bazzer9461]

I’d rather have Phil f*****g Trainer back.

Really now there are limits in your response by Phil f*****g Trainer do me a favour