Transfer Window Summer 2023 Transfer Window Thread

[Northstandboy]

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Signed: Rúben Rodrigues

 

[Golden Dr Otto]

The window is open but the doors need closing

 

[Jaboysmith]

Have we signed anyone yet?

Oh wait

 

[Canterburyexile]

I saw few rumours on Twitter that Thorniley was at the training ground yesterday. No idea if they were true.

 

[Jaboysmith]

I saw few rumours on Twitter that Thorniley was at the training ground yesterday. No idea if they were true.

I think the general opinion is that it is

 

[n1]

I saw few rumours on Twitter that Thorniley was at the training ground yesterday. No idea if they were true.

Looks like it might be legit. Would be a sensible and exciting signing. Proven left sided centre half who has won promotion from League One, familiar with the club, and played successfully with Elliott Moore already in his career.

 

[Big Ronaldo]

Not sure that it is a thing these days but I well remember how great it was to have Aldridge and Hamilton up front for us many moons ago.
2 Strikers up front playing with a greater understanding of each others movement is something that you rarely see in any modern day team.
Sometimes it just clicks into place.

 

[dickwalton1964]

Looks like it might be legit. Would be a sensible and exciting signing. Proven left sided centre half who has won promotion from League One, familiar with the club, and played successfully with Elliott Moore already in his career.

Would definitely pave the way for Findlay to leave. I think Negru looks really promising though - potentially another McNally, Dickie, Atkinson - and I wouldn’t want too many blocking his route to the first team. Moore, Thorniley, Negru, Brown and Long would cover the centre back positions. New keeper and two new full backs to upgrade on Long and Brown and that’s the defence done.

 

[dickwalton1964]

Not sure that it is a thing these days but I well remember how great it was to have Aldridge and Hamilton up front for us many moons ago.
2 Strikers up front playing with a greater understanding of each others movement is something that you rarely see in any modern day team.
Sometimes it just clicks into place.

Systems and formations have evolved I suppose but there is no obvious reason why a throwback to our great 80’s side shouldn’t work in the modern game. There’s nothing particularly complex about an over lapping full backs swinging in a cross to the back stick where your target man nods it back for a poacher to tap in. Just as hard to defend against now as it was in the mid 80’s. A question of personnel I guess.

 

[Oufccraig45]

Wonder if Liam is trying to get them in b4 jetting of for warm weather training as will need plenty of time to gel b4 season starts now that would be a STATEMENT to the league

 

[Mad Dog]

The window is open but the doors need closing

I think they were referring to the metaphorical "trapdoor" they were falling through, down into league 2

 

[OX14]

Wonder if Liam is trying to get them in b4 jetting of for warm weather training as will need plenty of time to gel b4 season starts now that would be a STATEMENT to the league

That's where Robinson went wrong the past 4 seasons. He was trying to be clever by playing the waiting game on signing the next crock from a higher level, Get the players in early and all have a full preseason with eachother and hopefully that will equate to a good start to the season.

 

[Mad Dog]

Wonder if Liam is trying to get them in b4 jetting of for warm weather training as will need plenty of time to gel b4 season starts now that would be a STATEMENT to the league

Hopefully! The last time we had a manager sensible enough to do that, we got promoted!

 

[OxShireWest]

See Luke Matheson has been released by Wolves. Very highly rated as a 17/18 year old at Rochdale. Not worked out for him at Wolves but plenty of first team experience for a lad of only 20 and plays in a position we need (right back).

Could be worth a punt.

 

[dickwalton1964]

See Luke Matheson has been released by Wolves. Very highly rated as a 17/18 year old at Rochdale. Not worked out for him at Wolves but plenty of first team experience for a lad of only 20 and plays in a position we need (right back).

Could be worth a punt.

Wasn‘t he the lad who scored at Old Trafford with his first touch when he came on as a sub for Rochdale in a cup game when he was about 16 ? He made the headlines for being back at school the following morning.

 

[Left Wing Cross]

Systems and formations have evolved I suppose but there is no obvious reason why a throwback to our great 80’s side shouldn’t work in the modern game. There’s nothing particularly complex about an over lapping full backs swinging in a cross to the back stick where your target man nods it back for a poacher to tap in. Just as hard to defend against now as it was in the mid 80’s. A question of personnel I guess.

The 442 block is very stable defensively but with the current focus having more central midfielders, the two are exposed when in possession, especially if there is a counter press. Indeed, with an inverted fullback, there can be as many as 4 opposition midfielders occupying that space. The most successful 442 team in the past few years is Sean Dyche's Burnley who were able to cope by pushing their wingers inside to form a narrow midfield and by mostly bypassing the midfield to gain territory and win freekicks (which isn't a pretty watch).

While I can understand the desire to return to the flying winger and overlapping fullback model (indeed, the historically best Oxford teams used it), it will take a change within the tactical system throughout football for it to become as relevant as it once was.

 

[Grumpy Git]

We need a player for every position. Each position needs a player who knows and feels happy to play in that position. We need a full squad of players.
Sounds simple, but it was something Robinson failed to do every season.

 

[OxShireWest]

Wasn‘t he the lad who scored at Old Trafford with his first touch when he came on as a sub for Rochdale in a cup game when he was about 16 ? He made the headlines for being back at school the following morning.

Yep that's the one!

 

[SirAndyOfCrosby]

See Luke Matheson has been released by Wolves. Very highly rated as a 17/18 year old at Rochdale. Not worked out for him at Wolves but plenty of first team experience for a lad of only 20 and plays in a position we need (right back).

Could be worth a punt.

Absolutely f**king not.

When you say 'plenty of first team experience' - he has played a handful of matches in the last 3 years, the majority of which were at a Scunthorpe side that got relegated from League Two with a whimper in 2022.

I will be gobsmacked if this kid ever plays in the Football League again, let alone for an ambitious League One club.

Only 'worth a punt' if Sam Allardyce Jnr turns us down to sign instead for West Brom and we also fail to agree terms with Kashif Siddiqi as player coach.

 

[tatabanya]

It’s interesting that if/when Thorniley is confirmed, that will be two players in the door who were identified and pursued by the old recruitment team. Both ooc now which makes the process a bit easier, and getting the deals actually done was a massive part of the issue before, but worth mentioning nonetheless that these aren’t new names plucked by Manning and Waldron.

 

[Older Shotts]

It’s interesting that if/when Thorniley is confirmed, that will be two players in the door who were identified and pursued by the old recruitment team. Both ooc now which makes the process a bit easier, and getting the deals actually done was a massive part of the issue before, but worth mentioning nonetheless that these aren’t new names plucked by Manning and Waldron.

Good point, however good to see LM has given the deals the go ahead rather than someone else who might have said no as they weren't his idea..

 

[Manorlounger]

It’s interesting that if/when Thorniley is confirmed, that will be two players in the door who were identified and pursued by the old recruitment team. Both ooc now which makes the process a bit easier, and getting the deals actually done was a massive part of the issue before, but worth mentioning nonetheless that these aren’t new names plucked by Manning and Waldron.

Deals that, frankly, wouldn't have happened had KR still been here. There will be more to come and maybe not all will get finalised but, the chances of success have risen enormously.

 

[North Wales Yellow]

Rhys Healey leaving Toulouse.... yes please

 

[n1]

Thought the below thread from a local Portsmouth journalist might be of interest. A - because they're a close rival, and B - because it mentions their interest in Gavin Whyte. Sounds like their business is ramping up now too, and that deals will start to be done. Not very excited by many of the names mentioned I must say.

 

[tatabanya]

Rhys Healey leaving Toulouse.... yes please

Going to Watford

 

[tatabanya]

Deals that, frankly, wouldn't have happened had KR still been here. There will be more to come and maybe not all will get finalised but, the chances of success have risen enormously.

Yes totally agree, although it does look like Thorniley was in KR’s circle and wanted to come back a couple of times before he left.

 

[OxShireWest]

Absolutely f**king not.

When you say 'plenty of first team experience' - he has played a handful of matches in the last 3 years, the majority of which were at a Scunthorpe side that got relegated from League Two with a whimper in 2022.

I will be gobsmacked if this kid ever plays in the Football League again, let alone for an ambitious League One club.

Only 'worth a punt' if Sam Allardyce Jnr turns us down to sign instead for West Brom and we also fail to agree terms with Kashif Siddiqi as player coach.

Nearly 50 professional games at the age of 20 most definitely constitutes as plenty of experience for his age.

Suggesting an individual player is bad because he was part of a squad that got relegated is... interesting... analysis, ignoring any and all nuance. The lad had an 8 figure sum paid for him by an established Premier League club as a teenager. Clubs like Wolves don't just buy any kid for the fun of it. Such decisions are made based on scouting and data.

Yes, his development at Wolves probably didn't go as well as they had hoped so he's been released because they don't believe he'll make the first team - that doesn't make him a bad player or prospect. We signed Brannagan after he had only played 16 professional games and had been released.

Plus, if you're right and everyone thinks like you, he'll be on the cheap!

 

[Yellow There!]

Thought the below thread from a local Portsmouth journalist might be of interest. A - because they're a close rival, and B - because it mentions their interest in Gavin Whyte. Sounds like their business is ramping up now too, and that deals will start to be done. Not very excited by many of the names mentioned I must say.

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A mate who has family involved at Portsmouth said he was told that the board are going to spend as little money as they can feasibly get away with this season, which won't go down well. Enough for a decent go but not big money/big names.

 

[Charles]

I guess when players who are O.O. CONTRACT then no fee is payable apart from a signing on fee ! Does this mean a better wage can be offered out of the budget given to Manning for buying players as he didn't have to spend ?

 

[Cotswolds Cowboy]

It’s interesting that if/when Thorniley is confirmed, that will be two players in the door who were identified and pursued by the old recruitment team. Both ooc now which makes the process a bit easier, and getting the deals actually done was a massive part of the issue before, but worth mentioning nonetheless that these aren’t new names plucked by Manning and Waldron.

Spot on
The recruitment team were continually undermined and overruled by the excuse of manager we had before Manning
Manning is obviously someone who values and listens to his staff which has to be a massive plus