What do we know?

At a guess, coffeegate..
It doesn't (or maybe it does?) Include things like basic cleaning of the toilets....or removing birdshit off the seats (that cost £20 + per match to sit on)....as neither have been addressed or done at all for in the region of 5 years now,the service charge dispute has been on going for much less than 5 years I believe
 
Elsewhere in the accounts it says the tenant has reduced the services it takes (I guess coffeegate etc). profits roughly halved. And there is a bad debt provision too.
That would be good news for Oxvox (ANO) getting a deal but FK does seem to be vindictive when it comes to OUFC.
 
The club has been in official arbitration with Firoka since Sept/Oct 2016.

At that time the then MD, Greig Box Turnbull, wrote in the matchday programme that he expected the matter
to be sorted within weeks !
 
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We are vilifying Eales because he said "I will only sell in the bests interests of OUFC. " There were two parties willing to put up to 20 million into this club and Eales turned them down when he found out he could make more money for himself
How do we know this? Because Charlie says? And how do we know how much Tiger is prepared to put in?

Don't believe all you read on an obscure internet forum!!!
 
How do we know this? Because Charlie says? And how do we know how much Tiger is prepared to put in?

Don't believe all you read on an obscure internet forum!!!

I do believe what Charlie says in this instance,why put that information out here if it isn't true. There are plenty of people who would have challenged those facts by now.

I do take your point about Tiger and I have said on another thread time will tell about how much backing he has.But there is this gut feeling I have that Tiger is not all he seems.

I feel whoever is running our club should come under more scrutiny.

In the past we have had Maxwell and Kassam, both welcomed with open arms by some.

One took us to the heights and one took us to the depths,but both put our club in a bad position in the longer term
 
We are vilifying Eales because he said "I will only sell in the bests interests of OUFC. " There were two parties willing to put up to 20 million into this club and Eales turned them down when he found out he could make more money for himself
I do believe what Charlie says in this instance,why put that information out here if it isn't true. There are plenty of people who would have challenged those facts by now.

I do take your point about Tiger and I have said on another thread time will tell about how much backing he has.But there is this gut feeling I have that Tiger is not all he seems.

I feel whoever is running our club should come under more scrutiny.

In the past we have had Maxwell and Kassam, both welcomed with open arms by some.

One took us to the heights and one took us to the depths,but both put our club in a bad position in the longer term
Not sure how you can say they are facts, chas does have a habit of having a differing view of reality, well he is a pr guru so knows how to spin a yarn or two.
 
I see Tiger is now notified as a person with significant control.
"The person holds, directly or indirectly, 75% or more of the shares in the company."
"The person holds, directly or indirectly, 75% or more of the voting rights in the company."

So the questions to be asked are ? Is Tiger acting on his own? Or are there other people in the background? If the holding company had different majority shareholders to Tiger then it should be disclosed ?

So where’s the money coming from?
 
So the questions to be asked are ? Is Tiger acting on his own? Or are there other people in the background? If the holding company had different majority shareholders to Tiger then it should be disclosed ?

So where’s the money coming from?
Tiger is the only shareholder in the holding company. There is one other director.
 
Tiger is the only shareholder in the holding company. There is one other director.


Has a Tiger said how much he’s putting into the club financially? - If not then he needs to ASAP!!!!!
 
Oxfordmail released an article confirming it about 5 mins after I posted it [emoji85]. I thought he might stay, especially if it is Robinson as manager
They've probably got email notifications on for any company filings of the club, so it became public knowledge today rather than needing any investigative journalism.
 
Just a minute, we are not obscure. I'll have you know that we've applied to the Guiness Book of Records for the "longest new manager" thread in history.

And the new members are flooding in too.
Poor buggers. ;)
 
With it now two weeks since the announcement of the takeover by Sumrith Thanakarnjanasuth, I thought it worth pulling together some of the various bits and pieces not just from the past fortnight, but the many months leading up to the takeover. So, what do we actually know so far?

Well, from the official announcements: very, very little. We were told that Darryl is retaining a small stake (less than 10%), that the capital structure of the club has been strengthened and debt reduced, and Tiger has stated that he is in this on his own (with a little advice from others).

As ever, the devil is in the detail. How has the capital structure of the club been strengthened? And what has the debt been reduced to? And to whom is that remaining debt owed? The recent letter to shareholders does shed a little light on this, announcing the issue of 2,411,860 shares in OUFC at £1 a pop. These shares will be allocated to Oxford Investment Holding PTE Ltd (Tiger’s holding company for OUFC) in return for cash investment and Ensco 1070 Ltd (Darryl’s holding co.) in return for “capitalization of certain accrued shareholder debt”. Again, however, there is no detail beyond this. How much cash investment and how much debt reduction?

As Darryl has said that he will be having a shareholding below 10%, it’s reasonable to assume that he’s going to be getting 10% or less of the new shares, with Tiger investing for the other 90%; this would equate to roughly £2.1m cash into the club.

But what about the debt? When Darryl bought the club, the total debt was £8,570,872 with £7,538,878 owed to WPL (give or take a bit as the figures are for year end June ’16, and the deal was concluded a couple of days later).

By June 2015, the debt had grown to £10,589,588, with £5,383,878 owed to WPL (suggesting Ensco had paid them £2.1m for the shares), and £3.2m owed to Ensco. Then, by the last published accounts which were for the year ended June 2016, the total debt was c.£12m, with £10,866,290 owed to Ensco. That figure includes the £4,383,870 which was previously owed to Woodstock Partners, but was bought by Ensco for £1.

So, it will be interesting to see just how much of that debt has been written off, and just how much of Tiger’s £2.4m-ish will be used to pay back some of that debt.

The issue of the £4.3m debenture over OUFC’s assets and future income has been discussed at length already on here. The only note I would make here is that we have moved from a position of soft debt owed to the club’s owner, to a position of hard debt.

Now, one of the key issues for me is just who is involved in this takeover. Back in October I flagged up a number of individuals who may be involved with Tiger to some extent. Since then, it’s been revealed that Taweesuk “Jack” Srisumrid has been involved in, at the very least, an advisory capacity to Tiger. The records at the Singapore equivalent of Companies House show that Oxford Investment Holdings were formed back in August 2017 and reveal another name: Supranee Piamphongsarn, who is listed as a Director of the company along with Tiger.

Who is Supranee “Oil” Piamphongsarn? And if Tiger is in this on his own, why is she a Director of the holding company? Well, she is the wife of Theekharoj “Bank” Piamphongsarn. “Bank” was, possibly still is, a Director of Empire Asia Group, the company founded by Pairoj Piempongsant. Now, those of you who have been paying attention will remember that Pairoj was, along with “Jack”, a representative of Shinawatra during his dealing with Manchester City. And both “Bank” and “Jack” were directors at Reading, despite not officially being shareholders. Also, along with Tiger, they remain directors of the company used to hold the land extracted from Reading.

In August 2017, within a couple of days of Oxford Investment Holdings being formed, “Bank” also replaced Tiger as the Director of Universal UK Investment Co Ltd, the vehicle used for Tiger’s shareholding in Reading. This may be because, according to Companies House records, that company still holds a charge over the assets of Reading FC and this may have been considered a barrier to Tiger taking over at Oxford.

“Bank” is also Executive Director of Reignwood International Resources Investments, a joint venture between the Reignwood Group of China and the Bakrie Group of Indonesia. Reignwood are owned by Chanchai Rouyrungrueng, a man so closely associated with Shinawatra that he was seen as the official representative of his party in Beijing.

Does any of this answer the question about whether Tiger is acting alone? Not definitively. But there is certainly a good chunk of circumstantial evidence here to suggest that he isn’t.


2 weeks on from this post, have we decided if Tiger is being bankrolled by dodgy Thai's or a skint fantasist looking for a train set?

Also, is Oxford a basketcase, unable to pay taxes and staff or a well run club with exciting prospects?

Finally, we all know that OxVox are no longer the independent voice of Oxford United, but are they too close to the asset stripping DE or the evil foreigner Tiger, or both?

PS, keep up the good work!!
 
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