Trump watch (2)

[Yellow Hoods]

Piers Morgan hoping to secure second date with Donald Trump ....

http://newsthump.com/2018/01/29/piers-morgan-hoping-to-secure-second-date-with-donald-trump/

 

[Gary Baldi]

I didn't think he looked much of a porker on the interview. Or someone who suffers from dementia.

 

[mcf86]

I didn't think he looked much of a porker on the interview. Or someone who suffers from dementia.

Mr T conducted himself very well, he also had good posture -unlike Morgan slouched in his chair. Hope he gets to visit the UK

 

[Gary Baldi]

It looks like he will be over here twice this year. Plenty of time for everyone to get offended beforehand

 

[Gary Baldi]

I'm certainly all in favour of Mr Trump making an appearance or two. It will be interesting to see who can be bothered to turn out in favour of him or against him.

I'm expecting one set to be flying 'special relationship' half and half flags while wishing we had someone like Donald in charge. I'm expecting the other set to be well and truly offended by him already, no need to work on it in the lead up to his visit(s).

I'm also expecting most of the British public to not give a toss.

My gut feeling is a lot of anti Trumpers will be on parade getting the knickers in a knot while the pro Trumpers will be at work wondering what the fuss is about. Antifa and their ilk will destroy property, spray paint stuff, get in beefs with the rozzers and generally act like arses while recording it on their iPhones. Sturgeon will pontificate like normal. Boris will use a random word that will confuse everyone. Ho hum.

At least the police will be happy with the overtime!

 

[Basham Wonderland]

Not our place to protest a democratically elected leader of a free country, but I'm sure that sentiment will be lost on the many 16-30 year old vegan Corbynistas who turn out to protest his visit.

 

[Gary Baldi]

Yeh, any protest is likely to be hi-jacked by extremists. If there was a guarantee of peaceful protest I would attend myself, because I think it's important that Mr Trump realises not everyone around the world thinks he's a matinee idol. And as for it not being our business what a democratically elected leader does or says - nonsense. It's the exact opposite. In a democracy (like the UK) we can express our feelings, within the law, about anybody or anything.

As its stands, Mr Trump is likely to be able to dismiss extreme protest for what it is. Sensible voices opposed to what he stands for will be lost. After his cosy interview with Mr Morgan he will continue to believe he's a superhero, opposed only by a 'mindless few'.

The sad part is the loudest voices will be the ones who had the quietest voices when President Xi had his tour of the UK.

And in all honesty, I do wonder how many real anti Trumpers there are? Like many things nowadays, the outrage has become very amplified and I suspect that most of the general public will be mildly unfussed, unbothered or mildly fussed. Or just bored of it. Like we are on most things outside of the national football teams and Strictly.

 

[HeyMcAleny]

Trump is a disgrace to the great office which he sadly holds. The fact that he's putting off his visit for as long as possible, and blaming other reasons, is typical of his character.

He knows he's being divisive with his statements. Well that's his choice. "He says it as he sees it" is the defence.

Well, a lot of people will be saying it as THEY see it when he visits. Which is only fair.

 

[m]

Not our place to protest a democratically elected leader of a free country, but I'm sure that sentiment will be lost on the many 16-30 year old vegan Corbynistas who turn out to protest his visit.

It's our place to protest about whatever we bloody feel like!

 

[Basham Wonderland]

It's our place to protest about whatever we bloody feel like!

I'm sure he'll resign immediately upon reading the many imaginative and no-doubt hilarious placards on display.

 

[Gary Baldi]

If a similar sign to the below isn't there, I will be disappointed

 

[Morris Oxford]

If a similar sign to the below isn't there, I will be disappointed

I’d better take my Horton Out placard then.

 

[Gary Baldi]

I’d better take my Horton Out placard then.

Please do. It will stand out in sea of unfunny wig jokes, Russia puns and such placards.

 

[mcf86]

A chance for the loonie left brigade who slept over during the 'Brexit' vote to spew their bile and wave their banners. Bless.

 

[m]

I'm sure he'll resign immediately upon reading the many imaginative and no-doubt hilarious placards on display.

Indeed. You'll note I made no judgement on the merits of any particular protest.

 

[CJ]

I'm afraid I dislike Corbyn more than Trump

 

[mcf86]

Corbyn and Abbott two very odd bedfellows, and two reasons why I'll never vote Labour again, well, for a very long time at least.

 

[Whingit]

Eejit protesters. Should be rolling out the red carpet for him, let him have a nice banquet with Liz as long as somebody shoves a nice trade deal under his nose for him to sign beforehand.
"You want to see the queen Donny? Oh alright then, she might even let you wear one of her nice shiny hats. Oh wait, you wouldn't mind signing this quickly would you?"

 

[m]

I think Dianne Abbott exists to equal and oppose Boris Johnson.

If either one didn't exist the Earth would spin off its axis.

 

[Deleted member 462]

I think Dianne Abbott exists to equal and oppose Boris Johnson.

If either one didn't exist the Earth would spin off its axis.

She’s done the sums on that, and it’s true, by 5000 ish % she thinks. Although that’s not what she said.

 

[Gary Baldi]

Trump's speech last night had a 75% "approval" rating from viewers according to CBS.

And almost a standing O from a Democrat

 

[Basham Wonderland]

Trump's speech last night had a 75% "approval" rating from viewers according to CBS.

And almost a standing O from a Democrat

If one gif was an allegory for the West in 2018, it would be this.

 

[Gary Baldi]

Smashing! Let's see what his next approval rating is. Of the 13 polls taken by 13 different organisations (including CBS News) in January, his approval ratings ranged from 35% to 45%, his disapproval ratings from 53% to 59%.

I'd suggest the Democrat applauding Trump in your clip might be to the right of the party? Does happen you know. Not every Labour MP is a Corbynista.

I'm not suggesting he's the second coming of Obama (nor would I ever - 2 different sides of the political coin), but the speech clearly resonated with Republicans and Independents, and even a good portion of Democrats too. It does run contrary to the perception that his message and he, are out of touch with America. When his utterings are not filtered through the lens of the media, he comes across so much better - even if the lack of filter will always offend some people.

Not sure if that Dem is right of the party. Just made me laugh that Chuck Schumer told him to sit down when he tried to be spontaneous. Utterly fascinating to see the dynamics that are taking place.

 

[Gary Baldi]

I always felt sorry for Sean Spicer. He was the public face of Trump's early and significant dysfunction and didn't deserve all of the criticism he got. I think appointing Sarah Huckabee-Sanders was such a wise move on many levels. A tough and wise operator from what I can see. All the posturing and SNL stuff stopped the moment she got the job.

The Grammy's is a fascinating case in point. It got more political in the last couple of years and people turned off in their droves this year. Will the Oscars soon share the same fate? Then you have Taylor Swift getting significant grief because she won't talk about politics or condemn Trump - when clearly she understands that people don't always want to be preached at and by doing it, you can alienate half of your fan base. Just like Katy Perry is finding out.

I did think he would be one and done, but regardless, the various judicial appointments Trump has made that the media have ignored becoz of Russia, Russia, Russia obsessions will have a longer term impact on America than most people realise.

Re the press Less Twitter outrage, less "unnamed sources" lies and more clinical and deep journalism. It's a shame how far CNN has fallen in the past 2 years.

 

[HeyMcAleny]

I'm not suggesting he's the second coming of Obama (nor would I ever - 2 different sides of the political coin), but the speech clearly resonated with Republicans and Independents, and even a good portion of Democrats too. It does run contrary to the perception that his message and he, are out of touch with America. When his utterings are not filtered through the lens of the media, he comes across so much better - even if the lack of filter will always offend some people.

Not sure if that Dem is right of the party. Just made me laugh that Chuck Schumer told him to sit down when he tried to be spontaneous. Utterly fascinating to see the dynamics that are taking place.

'His utterings not filtered through the lens of the media'

I think you've got this the wrong way around. Trump speaks to us WITHOUT even needing the media. I follow him on Twitter! I also watch him speak unscripted to his faithful at his rallies.

A speech however, is the one time when you're NOT listening to Trump, rather his team of speechwriters. Even Trump can't mess up a good speech. Does he really mean it though? I doubt it.

 

[Gary Baldi]

'His utterings not filtered through the lens of the media'

I think you've got this the wrong way around. Trump speaks to us WITHOUT even needing the media. I follow him on Twitter! I also watch him speak unscripted to his faithful at his rallies.

A speech however, is the one time when you're NOT listening to Trump, rather his team of speechwriters. Even Trump can't mess up a good speech. Does he really mean it though? I doubt it.

While he is on Twitter and at times excellent value, a lot of people are NOT on Twitter/Social Media, and thus the medias interpretation of what he says on there and on other places is what they see and think has been said. If see the WaPo write another story that contains "2 inside sources", I'll lose the will to live.

Did he really mean that speech? Yeah. He talked about jobs, immigration, USA USA USA (among other things), all recurrent themes of his oratory right from the very start. I'd say the one consistent thing is his focus on his ideals and wanting to deliver on them, even when he goes on tangents to get there. How often did he talk about tax reform in the past 2 years? A lot. The same about immigration and the deep state

 

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[Marked Ox]

So the Trump reckons he had 'tremendous success' in the mid-terms. Republicans consolidate control of the Senate, but lose control of the House of Representatives, which reliably churned out hard-line immigration legislation, Obamacare repeal and steep cuts to social programmes under Republican rule. Surely this means references to 'tremendous success' are fake news?

Trump is still an autocratic president though, and controls the judiciary, so I doubt he'll lose much sleep.

Trump can claim it is a 'tremendous success' as he now has an 'enemy' who he can blame when things go wrong or he doesn't get his policies through.

He can play to his core to try to get re-elected for a 2nd term which given his ego/narcissism is probably all he cares about. I can see it now with Trump claiming the Democrats are anti-US and anti-democratic (purely obviously because they aren't backing him) after blocking his policies*.

*Of course, ignoring the Republicans doing it to Obama.

 

[Gary Baldi]

Neither side really came out of that as a winner - the Blue Wave didn't happen as expected nor did the Trump growth translate to the ballot box in the areas he hoped. A mixed bag (and I suspect, a large waste of money that could be spent better elsewhere). I can only see the awful rhetoric from both sides getting worse now as it feels a more closer battle. But positives are a younger intake into the various houses - I cannot believe how staid their politics has become - and youth/minority engagement.

I wonder if Feinstein would trade the House of Representative majority for control of the Senate? The Supreme Court composition could become a battleground and with a firmer Republican grip in the Senate, it could swing it further to Trump and future Republicans. The fact McConnell has been pushing through judicial appointments before the mid terms will only strengthen their slant on the court system.

Now the Dems need to find a candidate for 2020 that isn't a Clinton or Sanders or too "left". So far, the cupboard looks bare for them.

 

[Peterdev]

Interesting Wall Street likes the result. Hopefully it will keep his excesses in check.
Before the markets reacted to his rantings in an unpredictable manner. He’s playing with peoples lives.Has he finished that wall with Mexico yet? Thought that was supposed to start two years ago