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So you would have to drive to Redbridge and hope to get a charging pointhttps://energysuperhuboxford.org/technologies/electric-vehicle-charging/
A few of these would do the job!
So you would have to drive to Redbridge and hope to get a charging pointhttps://energysuperhuboxford.org/technologies/electric-vehicle-charging/
A few of these would do the job!
The Vauxhall UK CEO was suggesting that in the next 10 years the price will come down significantly.It will take years to build up a charging network, the biggest drawbacks will be the cost of the cars and unless a hybrid the range,
It will take years to build up a charging network, the biggest drawbacks will be the cost of the cars and unless a hybrid the range,
But the point is for 90% of journeys that range absolutely does work. I could change to an electric car with a charge range of 250 miles today, and it would have minimal impact due to the nature of journeys. Of course a sales rep tearing up and down the M40 would struggle, but for the majority of people the ranges just aren't an issue. Price, however, most definitely is.Slap a 400-500 mile range on a charge and develop a charging network that is speedy and can cope with demand then this will move to another level.
At the moment 200-300 mile range and an hour+ to charge just doesn’t work.
But the point is for 90% of journeys that range absolutely does work. I could change to an electric car with a charge range of 250 miles today, and it would have minimal impact due to the nature of journeys. Of course a sales rep tearing up and down the M40 would struggle, but for the majority of people the ranges just aren't an issue. Price, however, most definitely is.
Cornwall is one of my favourite places, yeah getting down there would be problematic I'd get round this by hiring a 'proper' car if I had an electric at the moment, but that won't be a solution in 2030 of course. 10 years to get it sorted...Fair point but I think this is also just psychological. If you want to take your car on holiday to say Scotland or Cornwall you will always be thinking about the distance and charging issues. It may only happen once or twice a year but nevertheless I think it is an issue.... certainly is for me. Agreed though, for a normal week the range for an average motorist is probably not an issue.
Also, I think the tech is changing so rapidly that an electric car now will still be archaic in a few years time... So high cost and rapid depreciation has to be a real concern at the moment.
The quick charging is the key.Absolutely.
Range has to improve by 100% minimum to really make this viable because the charging network will just
Slap a 400-500 mile range on a charge and develop a charging network that is speedy and can cope with demand then this will move to another level.
That is just the start of the infrastructure that is eventually planned. Will it be delivered by 2030?So you would have to drive to Redbridge and hope to get a charging point
Why not pence per mile for using the road network? More you use, more you pay, could price that to the environmental impact of the vehicle. Gas guzzlers pay more, EV`s
So rich people who can afford the new and expensive EVs pay less to travel than those of us who have to stick with what we've got?Gas guzzlers pay more, EV`s less.
Unless you are incentivised by the state (or hell, even The World Bank as this is a global issue!) to get rid of your polluting vehicle and benefit from having a new zero emission* vehicle. Bit more carrot and a bit less stick!So rich people who can afford the new and expensive EVs pay less to travel than those of us who have to stick with what we've got?
Have you ever seen the film The Fly? It might change your opinionPersonally, I'm waiting for teleportation technology to improve. Travel sure would be a lot easier then[emoji23]
That's why I said "improve"Have you ever seen the film The Fly? It might change your opinion
I agree that one of the biggest issues with this is the initial outlay and it also requires so many other elements to fall into place (how it is installed, how it is used, how energy efficient your building is to begin with, whether your current heating system also heats your water, whether you have underfloor heating, making it more efficient etc etc) for you to make a saving over time. That said, even if it works out at zero additional cost over 20 years, it is worth it if you can afford the initial costs (grants are available through the Renewable Heat Incentive Scheme which will bring the cost down by £2300 ish).The other thing that struck me as a bit odd was that gas heating systems will be replaced by heat pumps , the tv news showed council housing in oxford where the work was being carried out ,a figure of £15000 was mentioned to install this, if this is the case the cost is going to be a real issue, I replaced my very old and no doubt inefficient boiler which had lasted for 35 years with a new one which cost £2000 , £15000 bill would have been a massive financial outlay , which I would have had to give serious thought to
You can buy a EV for 20kSo rich people who can afford the new and expensive EVs pay less to travel than those of us who have to stick with what we've got?
I personally am not a 'new car purchaser'. I don't have the odd £20K lying about to buy a new car and neither do I want to spend £300 per month for the rest of my life to lease one.You can buy a EV for 20k
You can lease/PCP long range EV for less than £300 a month (80-90% of all new cars purchased this way).
All well within reach of the vast majority of all new car purchasers.
So rich people who can afford the new and expensive EVs pay less to travel than those of us who have to stick with what we've got?