International News Russian War With Ukraine

Essexyellows said:
Cracks appearing in the European united front?

www.bbc.co.uk

Hungary blocks €50bn of EU funding for Ukraine

Hungary blocks new funding just hours after a deal is struck on starting talks to admit Ukraine to the EU.
www.bbc.co.uk

Hardly good news for Ukraine following on from the recent decisions in the USA.

As Otto von Bismarck said...... "Do not expect that once taking advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russian has always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on an agreement signed by you, you are supposed to justify. They are not worth the paper it is written. Therefore, with the Russian is to play fair, or do not play"
Click to expand...

Otto von Bismarck wants to try making a bit more sense when he speaks IMO.
 
Essexyellows said:
Cracks appearing in the European united front?

www.bbc.co.uk

Hungary blocks €50bn of EU funding for Ukraine

Hungary blocks new funding just hours after a deal is struck on starting talks to admit Ukraine to the EU.
www.bbc.co.uk

Hardly good news for Ukraine following on from the recent decisions in the USA.

As Otto von Bismarck said...... "Do not expect that once taking advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russian has always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on an agreement signed by you, you are supposed to justify. They are not worth the paper it is written. Therefore, with the Russian is to play fair, or do not play"
Click to expand...

Hardly a crack in the European front though, is it? Everyone in line except for whacky autocrat Orban who would quickly get back in line if there was any talk of the EU taps being turned off for Hungary. He acted exactly as expected.
 
unification said:
Hardly a crack in the European front though, is it? Everyone in line except for whacky autocrat Orban who would quickly get back in line if there was any talk of the EU taps being turned off for Hungary. He acted exactly as expected.
Click to expand...
And exactly as Putin dictated.

Following the Republican Trumpbots in congress and Nutty Viktor, I presume Rishi's new uniform-loving besties in Italy will be next to kick up a ruckus....probably followed by the Dutch Demagogue and the chainsaw wielding Argie nutjob.

What a time to be alive :ROFLMAO:
 
unification said:
Hardly a crack in the European front though, is it? Everyone in line except for whacky autocrat Orban who would quickly get back in line if there was any talk of the EU taps being turned off for Hungary. He acted exactly as expected.
Click to expand...

I`m sure the EU would have mentioned the taps drying up before he voted, its how they work is it not?
 
Sheik djibouti said:
And exactly as Putin dictated.

Following the Republican Trumpbots in congress and Nutty Viktor, I presume Rishi's new uniform-loving besties in Italy will be next to kick up a ruckus....probably followed by the Dutch Demagogue and the chainsaw wielding Argie nutjob.

What a time to be alive :ROFLMAO:
Click to expand...

‘Lefties getting battered. Happens all the time’.
 
Last edited:
Essexyellows said:
Cracks appearing in the European united front?

www.bbc.co.uk

Hungary blocks €50bn of EU funding for Ukraine

Hungary blocks new funding just hours after a deal is struck on starting talks to admit Ukraine to the EU.
www.bbc.co.uk

Hardly good news for Ukraine following on from the recent decisions in the USA.

As Otto von Bismarck said...... "Do not expect that once taking advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russian has always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on an agreement signed by you, you are supposed to justify. They are not worth the paper it is written. Therefore, with the Russian is to play fair, or do not play"
Click to expand...
Your beginning to sound more and more like that dispicable opportunist Nigel Farage .
 
bashamwonderland said:
"Opportunist"

Spent like 30 years campaigning for a single issue which he achieved against the odds 😂

Hilarious.
Click to expand...
Alright then, he spotted a gap in the “market” and turned it into a chasm .
It wasn’t an overnight success, but he’s still an opportunist
 
Just came here to recommend a documentary called Ukraine: Enemy in the Woods on BBC.

It's filmed on bodycams by the soldiers themselves. It threw up a lot of difficult feelings for me but I'm glad I watched it.

It's all just terribly sad. When some of the boys mention their ages it just fills me with a kind of frustration and rage, 19 years old and fighting a war is just a story as old as time. Rich men can't have a dialogue so they send working class boys to the slaughter. Putin is nowhere near the frontlines. It's an age old story. When will humanity learn it's lesson?

The Russians captured seem to perhaps believe the propaganda the Ukrainians torture them, it seems most go looking to earn some money.

It's amazing this war wages on and yet it's very much in the background for most countries west of Poland right now. The cold war documentary "turning point" on Netflix highlights that this tension between the west and Russia is nothing new, it can be biased and even conspiratorial at times but it's also worth a watch. I don't think the west can afford to sleep on Putin again.

When Putin took Crimea the response was pathetic and I think we are paying that price. Putin sees a weak west obsessed with its internal divisions and a US OAP politician and he thinks he can do what he wants. When Russia are at the borders of Poland we have a real problem.
 
Wandering Yellow said:
When Putin took Crimea the response was pathetic and I think we are paying that price. Putin sees a weak west obsessed with its internal divisions and a US OAP politician and he thinks he can do what he wants. When Russia are at the borders of Poland we have a real problem.
Click to expand...
Which one of the OAPs are you referencing?
 
stokeu said:
Which one of the OAPs are you referencing?
Click to expand...
Biden specifically. I think Putin saw his chance with Biden and went for Ukraine, the optics were right for him. Just my opinion, of course. The US has a plethora of problems particularly at the Mexican border, the right are obsessed with that and the left are obsessed with identity politics. I think Putin and his advisors may have considered an opportunity to take Ukraine with much less resistance than they really faced.
 
Wandering Yellow said:
Biden specifically. I think Putin saw his chance with Biden and went for Ukraine, the optics were right for him. Just my opinion, of course. The US has a plethora of problems particularly at the Mexican border, the right are obsessed with that and the left are obsessed with identity politics. I think Putin and his advisors may have considered an opportunity to take Ukraine with much less resistance than they really faced.
Click to expand...
Who thinks Trump would have helped Ukraine? Why would Putin not have invaded under Trump?
"But U.S. funding for arms shipments to Ukraine remains uncertain because of opposition from former President Donald Trump and his Republican allies in Congress."
 
chuckbert said:
Who thinks Trump would have helped Ukraine? Why would Putin not have invaded under Trump?
"But U.S. funding for arms shipments to Ukraine remains uncertain because of opposition from former President Donald Trump and his Republican allies in Congress."
Click to expand...
Because I think Putin sees Trump as someone more of his ilk.

Didn't he threaten to wipe Moscow off the map if Putin went into Ukraine?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

M
International News Russian missiles fired into Poland
Replies
11
Views
1K
Oxymoron
Oxymoron
M
International News Do you think the Russian Navy wanted to make a point?
Replies
0
Views
1K
Marked Ox
M
Back
Top Bottom