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EPL Man City charged

So the premier league managed to charge Everton in March this year and then give them a 10 point deduction (still haven’t told Everton how they came to 10 points) 8 months later, yet Man City who got charged in February for over 100 financial breaches won’t have a trial begin (BEGIN!!) until Autumn next year!


Add the latest story about the premier league brushing over players and managers still allowed to work while under investigation for sexual abuse/under age sex and it really does leave a very bad taste in the mouth.

The trouble for the prem is the scale of this, if they find Man City guilty they have to hammer them (relegation and massive fine) but if they do that they need an absolute watertight case else they are being sued to oblivion. Everton on the other hand will probably stay up and let it go with nothing more than having a chip on the shoulder about it, the prem got lucky with how bad the promoted teams are this year, ten points sounds harsh but its survivable.

Personally I look forward to the case, its going to be a shitshow.
 
The trouble for the prem is the scale of this, if they find Man City guilty they have to hammer them (relegation and massive fine) but if they do that they need an absolute watertight case else they are being sued to oblivion. Everton on the other hand will probably stay up and let it go with nothing more than having a chip on the shoulder about it, the prem got lucky with how bad the promoted teams are this year, ten points sounds harsh but its survivable.

Personally I look forward to the case, its going to be a shitshow.
Everton are also putting an appeal in by tomorrow and I think they will get it reduced to something like 6 points and will stay up.

As for City, if the trial starts next autumn then when is the outcome? A year later? That will be 2 and a half years on from when they were first charged!
 
Everton are also putting an appeal in by tomorrow and I think they will get it reduced to something like 6 points and will stay up.

As for City, if the trial starts next autumn then when is the outcome? A year later? That will be 2 and a half years on from when they were first charged!

I suppose they went heavy knowing they would reduce it later, not really much of a punishment in that case if it gets halved.

I actually can't see them finding Man City guilty, it basically opens up a huge can of worms over all these previous seasons etc that it could rumble on for years, I think thjey would rather just went away.
 
One of the interesting things about the Everton points deduction is it is worked out according to how many millions they exceeded the cap. So Everton tried about four different ways to explain why certain bits of expenditure shouldn't count.
eg preliminary work on the new stadium, finance costs on the stadium, a player they couldn't sell for the right price.
 
So the premier league managed to charge Everton in March this year and then give them a 10 point deduction (still haven’t told Everton how they came to 10 points) 8 months later, yet Man City who got charged in February for over 100 financial breaches won’t have a trial begin (BEGIN!!) until Autumn next year!


Add the latest story about the premier league brushing over players and managers still allowed to work while under investigation for sexual abuse/under age sex and it really does leave a very bad taste in the mouth.

Man City appear to have more lawyers working for them.
 
Everton are also putting an appeal in by tomorrow and I think they will get it reduced to something like 6 points and will stay up.

As for City, if the trial starts next autumn then when is the outcome? A year later? That will be 2 and a half years on from when they were first charged!

You're assuming it will even start and if it does, finish. Man City will tie it up in the courts if the PL actually find them guilty.
 
You're assuming it will even start and if it does, finish. Man City will tie it up in the courts if the PL actually find them guilty.

They gave Everton a ten point deduction for one charge, even if they halve that on appeal what will be the punishment for 122? No way are some of the richest people alive taking that sort of punishment lying down, this will go on for years with the clubs who have missed out on trophies and Europe also jumping in if Man City are found guilty. I reckon the Premier league are actually hoping that Man City find enough loopholes to get off, that solves the much bigger problems that come after for them.
 
It was never going to be like Everton was it? Man City will fight back, the owners are rich enough to drag this out for years and years.
 

What a horrible club Man City are. About time the premier league grew some balls and got on with charging them with their 115 charges!
This is just another stage in their process to stifle the charges. There will be more lawyers employed on this than at the Post Office enquiry. Particularly liked the "a tyranny of the majority" line, attacking the whole premise of the premier league setup as being the envious majority unfairly targetting the successful.
 
This is just another stage in their process to stifle the charges. There will be more lawyers employed on this than at the Post Office enquiry. Particularly liked the "a tyranny of the majority" line, attacking the whole premise of the premier league setup as being the envious majority unfairly targetting the successful.

Pity the Football Governance Bill didn't get through in time.
 
Man City complaining about financial regulation.

They want it removed so what, they can win 10 titles in a row? 20?

I hate the PL and everything it represents.

Wolves fans not renewing STs in record numbers due to price hikes and VAR.

It's supposed to be what we want to get there. Football is well and truly broken.

Premier League is just a league for the telly and tourists.
 
Did anyone see the "scenes" when Man City won the title by the way?

Quite genuinely, I've seen our support go more mad about beating Crawley Town away. And I'm not joking.

Soulless drivel

My thoughts exactly...

On the back of our incredible day and joyous celebrations it was even more stark as to how flat it was. At their own ground too!!

From the clips I saw, the parade looked just as flat.

How sad to not be able to feel the sort of emotions we felt.
 
I think sustained success over a long period of time removes some of the joy from it, that’s just inevitable.

I personally don’t really see the difference between Man City spending money given to them by a country and Man Utd spending money given to them from hundreds of thousands of Asian and Indian fans buying cheaply-made replica shirts… both are technically good for our economy, but bad for footballing competition…
 
Did anyone see the "scenes" when Man City won the title by the way?

Quite genuinely, I've seen our support go more mad about beating Crawley Town away. And I'm not joking.

Soulless drivel

The Constable injury time winner to put us five points clear at the top of the Conference? We probably went more bonkers that day than Man City fans have at any point since their "Aguerooooooo" moment.......

As an aside, was just looking up our team that day, and saw that Jamie Cook was starting. I had completely forgotten that he was part of our squad for the conference promotion season......but just couldn't get into the matchday squad most of the year. Whatever happened to him? My main memory of him (cleverly bringing things back full circle, and therefore keeping this thread on topic ;)) is scoring at Maine Road when we beat Man City!
 
The Constable injury time winner to put us five points clear at the top of the Conference? We probably went more bonkers that day than Man City fans have at any point since their "Aguerooooooo" moment.......

As an aside, was just looking up our team that day, and saw that Jamie Cook was starting. I had completely forgotten that he was part of our squad for the conference promotion season......but just couldn't get into the matchday squad most of the year. Whatever happened to him? My main memory of him (cleverly bringing things back full circle, and therefore keeping this thread on topic ;)) is scoring at Maine Road when we beat Man City!

About ten years ago I bumped into him at Heythrop Park Golf Club (doesn't FK own that!?). He was the golf pro there at the time. Anyway we got chatting and we reminisced about his goal v Luton. Nice bloke and he seemed genuinely pleased to be talking to an Oxford fan. How times have changed though from using the 12th man fund for signing him to where we find ourselves now.
 
My main memory of Jamie Cook is him going past Desailly at the Manor a week after I had been chatting to him at Fifth Avenue, that and calling him a cheating c**t when he dived for Henry Box against Oxford boys in a school match, to be fair I did foul him, although the penalty he scored was only enough to cancel out my (very rare) opening goal and take it to a replay which we won, goes to show that (not really) cheaters never prosper.

You don’t get those sort of memories supporting Man City.
 
About ten years ago I bumped into him at Heythrop Park Golf Club (doesn't FK own that!?). He was the golf pro there at the time. Anyway we got chatting and we reminisced about his goal v Luton. Nice bloke and he seemed genuinely pleased to be talking to an Oxford fan. How times have changed though from using the 12th man fund for signing him to where we find ourselves now.

Maybe we should do that again.

If every season ticket is anywhere between£50 and £100 less than expected… just donate the difference into a player fund 🙂

Around £400k - £500k right there .
 
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