Important Petition

As many of you may be aware, the Sports Minister Tracey Crouch recently rejected West Brom’s application to install rail seating in their ground, against experts advice.

In fact, not only did Tracey Crouch MP reject the application, she went further, suggesting that instead of allowing ‘persistent standers’ their own area, the ground-regulations surrounding Persistent Standers should be more heavily enforced.

Safe Standing benefits everyone in the country. Every club, every fan. If you like to stand, you’ll be safe in the knowledge that you can stand in peace, without being persecuted by stewards. If you like to sit down, nobody will be standing in your view as they’ll be in the standing section. Simple, eh?

Tracey Couch advised that this issue “isn’t in her inbox” and that the issue was being raised by a “vocal minority”. Now is the time to show Tracey that this is a very big issue. The petition has almost hit 50k signatures in two days - it’s time to go even further.

The Ultras are a huge advocate for safe standing (most of our shins have been mutilated by seats) and the thought of this being implemented at the Kassam is an exciting prospect.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/207040
 
Signed ....and email sent to Annaliese Dodds Oxford East MP on the subject-asking her views regarding safe standing and other issues when Football supporters are treated differently to spectators who watch top level Rugby, Cricket and other sports

Her predecessor Andrew Smith was very much a supporter of the introduction of Safe Standing at Football matches in England and Wales
 
Signed ....and email sent to Annaliese Dodds Oxford East MP on the subject-asking her views regarding safe standing and other issues when Football supporters are treated differently to spectators who watch top level Rugby, Cricket and other sports

Her predecessor Andrew Smith was very much a supporter of the introduction of Safe Standing at Football matches in England and Wales
shared it on social media too
 
Done - but I fear that the wishes of football supporters (and certainly those who go to games rather than being spoon fed it on the telly) are a hugely low priority for the government. I also suspect that the shadow of various football disasters will fall over this issue even though those of us interested in the subject know that the relevance is slight. Here's hoping though...
 
Signed ....and email sent to Annaliese Dodds Oxford East MP on the subject-asking her views regarding safe standing and other issues when Football supporters are treated differently to spectators who watch top level Rugby, Cricket and other sports

Her predecessor Andrew Smith was very much a supporter of the introduction of Safe Standing at Football matches in England and Wales

I have always wondered how the all seater stadia rule for certain football grounds (those at a certain level that were built after a certain time, so not even all football grounds) survives in this country when standing is allowed in other sports and even football at both a professional and amateur level.

I went to Cheltenham festival on gold cup day, where standing on shallow terraces is allowed for a huge and very inebriated crowd, it’s ridiculous to single football out as if standing is so dangerous it must be when attending any sporting/musical/large crowd drawing event, the event you are watching would have no effect on that. I think a legal challenge would have more effect than constantly petitioning for it, suppose its finding someone with deep enough pockets to fund that though.
 
They still have a terrace at Leicester Tigers. You can stand on said terrace drinking a beer watching a game.

The biggest difference is that most folk at the likes of rugby, Cheltenham etc can generally handle having a skin full and not wanting to fight everyone.
As @holdsteady says it needs a legal challenge from someone like the FSF....petitions aren`t worth a w**k.
 
I think I have seen more fighting at horse racing than I have at football, much worse for it, I wouldn’t say football in this country is any worse than any other event nowadays.

It’s definitely a class thing, or at least perceived class, a legal challenge would at least challenge that.

Now that Hillsborough has been legally proven to have been caused by inept crowd management this is the perfect time to overturn it, an anti sports minister rather than one who just pays lip service to it is actually better to go after in the courts.

I have signed the petition but it’s a waste of time other than as way of showing that other avenues have been exhausted, the best thing the FSF can do is get with the clubs who want to change it and challenge it legally.
 
Wow that petition has really taken off. It was only around 13,000 signatures when I signed on Wednesday evening. Great stuff.
 
Done,

Need 100K signatures to have to debate it in parliament. It would be good to smash through this barrier.

The government have no right to ignore the safety issues and want to keep this in when safe standing is allowed in Scotland, the lower leagues and many other European countries.

Unfortunately not. I believe they have to consider it for debate, they aren’t actually obligated to debate it. Still worth the effort though because you never know.
 
Unfortunately not. I believe they have to consider it for debate, they aren’t actually obligated to debate it. Still worth the effort though because you never know.
Yes you are right.
I guess that there has to be a good reason why they wouldn't debate it with 100K signatures (I am not sure what has happened in previous situations)
 
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