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How about 24 or 48 hours or even more, when no one mentions IM or SH or any of the FOSB jokers and as a result stop giving them any semblance of credibility to the nonsense they talk. I long for the days when no one mentions them and we just completely ignore them.
Understand, but their constant misinformation, lies and smears about the stadium need countering. And as @unification says we are in a lull period in the process.

We simply cannot have the antis controlling the narrative. The club's future depends on this stadium being built.

The day we can ignore them is the day we move into the new stadium or FoSB formally disband (which they should have done over a year ago)
 
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It's impossible to ignore FOSB, there not going to go away. Take the Oxford mail for example. The mistruths they put on there is unbelievable. Fair play to all the people that don't ignore them, & put them to rights in the comment section.
Plus nextdoor & other social platforms.
If nothing was said & ignored , it would put them in a position of power, to all the people that are genuinely neutral..
 
Addressing misinformation is one thing, and it is right that we all continue to do that.
However some of what is posted recently has been very personal and does not help at all. It is much better to focus on the positive that the plans will bring. The planners will know what is relevant and true.
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"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle." Sun Tzu, The Art of War.
 
Whilst appreciating the sentiment of what @OUSP is trying to do, I have to say I disagree with it.

As someone whose character was denigrated in public by Middleton, leading to me having to take action against him, I do not think we can just ignore these people. Left to their own devices we have seen the sort of lies they come up with, and many impressionable people were initially taken in by it. We cannot let them control the narrative, as all they have left are lies and misinformation. We MUST challenge them robustly at every turn, and if this means a few choice words are used, then so be it, as they don't hesitate to do so.

We ARE on the right side, and shouldn't hesitate to fight our corner. This is not a rehearsal, we only have one shot at this, so don't sit back and let them win the race for hearts and minds. If you don't like what they're saying, challenge it.
 
Whilst appreciating the sentiment of what @OUSP is trying to do, I have to say I disagree with it.

As someone whose character was denigrated in public by Middleton, leading to me having to take action against him, I do not think we can just ignore these people. Left to their own devices we have seen the sort of lies they come up with, and many impressionable people were initially taken in by it. We cannot let them control the narrative, as all they have left are lies and misinformation. We MUST challenge them robustly at every turn, and if this means a few choice words are used, then so be it, as they don't hesitate to do so.

We ARE on the right side, and shouldn't hesitate to fight our corner. This is not a rehearsal, we only have one shot at this, so don't sit back and let them win the race for hearts and minds. If you don't like what they're saying, challenge it.
I agree with this sentiment. Call them out, counter the lies wherever they appear. What I'm not so at ease with is the meme jokes that have been appearing on this thread recently, I don't think they really help. But that's personal opinion, they aren't breaking any forum rules.
 
I agree with this sentiment. Call them out, counter the lies wherever they appear. What I'm not so at ease with is the meme jokes that have been appearing on this thread recently, I don't think they really help. But that's personal opinion, they aren't breaking any forum rules.
As someone who is responsible for many of these memes, I would like to say all sources are in the public domain.

If you feel it is too much, PM me about it, not an issue at all.
 
The pressure group FoSB , and their 'supporters' have a history of protesting against anything ( anyone for volleyball?) , they are used to manipulating the narrative , scaremongering and circulating misinformation, usually they are challenging faceless corperations, they are not used to being challenged to prove the many wild claims that they make.

OUFC have this one chance to secure our future, if spokespersons for FoSB, their supporters or for that matter local councillors spread misinformation that may mislead, in the local media or on social media platforms, I , along Im sure with others too, will continue to call them out, ask them for proof of their claims, and will continue to do so until the future of OUFC is secured
 
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As someone who is responsible for many of these memes, I would like to say all sources are in the public domain.

If you feel it is too much, PM me about it, not an issue at all.
No, as I said just personal opinion. We've had no complaints, and the last thing I will be doing is trying to influence what is posted purely based on my own tastes.
 
I agree with this sentiment. Call them out, counter the lies wherever they appear. What I'm not so at ease with is the meme jokes that have been appearing on this thread recently, I don't think they really help. But that's personal opinion, they aren't breaking any forum rules.
I agree.
Overall OUFC fans have been robust in their arguments, but reasonable.
I am.not sure what these jokes are doing to help the club and the argument
 
The pressure group FoSB , and their 'supporters' have a history of protesting against anything ( anyone for volleyball?) , they are used to manipulating the narrative , scaremongering and circulating misinformation, usually they are challenging faceless corperations, they are not used to being challenged to prove the many wild claims that make.

OUFC have this one chance to secure our future, if spokespersons for FoSB, their supporters or for that matter local councillors spread misinformation that may mislead, in the local media or on social media platforms, I , along Im sure with others too, will continue to call them out, ask them for proof of their claims, and will continue to do so until the future of OUFC is secured
Everything I have read that emanates from FoSB, Middleton and Hill (amongst others) has done nothing but encourage the belief that they must be called out. Not just the misinformation and downright lies but also, the bile and, in some instances, almost depraved ravings that have emerged from two of those named in particular. I'm amazed that Steve Hill has not been disenfranchised completely from FoSB given the nature of what has recently come to light.
Middleton is standing for election to parliament. He has put himself forward as a representative of the people. That is a very scary thought.
Steve Hill is just a very unpleasant person with questionable morals.

No, the calling out of these people must go on. I applaud those individuals on here, in particular, but also on other social media platforms for their efforts.
So long as we all rise above their tactics and shame them for what they are, then fine by me.
 
I am.not sure what these jokes are doing to help the club and the argument
Perhaps it's a form of gallows humour (want of a better phrase there) as these people are so full of themselves and self important, that making making light of a situation is a way of dealing what is quite a critical time in our clubs future.

These people are jokes themselves, remember.
 
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And this is why I will continue to call them out brought in to fosb lies View attachment 18538
and just who has been peddling that misinformation ^^ ? , certain Green councillors and FoSB. THIS is a prime example as to why FoSB and their supporters should be called out, people really do believe their deliberate mistruths, which are intended to feed the fears of local residents
 
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And this is why I will continue to call them out brought in to fosb lies View attachment 18538
Adequate stadium? It hasn't got running water on matchdays!

The Littlemore station they talk of does not exist. Oxford Parkway does.

The Oxford Fail really are scum for running that headline in January.

This is why these people need to be called out!
 
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