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Ricky Otto said:
And so it begins...
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Coronavirus: Further 2,988 cases confirmed in UK

The largest daily number of positive tests since 22 May is "concerning", the health secretary says.
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Why is the media not demanding Johnson resign immediately? It’s clear he’s got no plan or policy and the figures are dreadful. Oh, I forgot, his mates own most of the media, and the Internet is riddled with Russian disinformation.
 
stokeu said:
it began weeks ago.....look at the graph
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That graph isn’t updated but there’s a 50% rise overnight and a big spike last few days. It’s mirroring the very sudden explosive rise we saw in Texas that pottersrightboot denied likely due to the imagined differences in UK and USA localized policies
 
Its a bit of a spike but in my local borough wandsworth where teenagers have been mingling loads for at least a couple of months theres only 3 positive tests. It may be the tip of an iceberg but you would have thought by now numbers would be much higher if that was the case. Most of these teenagers are living at home with their parents!
 
werthersoriginal said:
Why is the media not demanding Johnson resign immediately? It’s clear he’s got no plan or policy and the figures are dreadful. Oh, I forgot, his mates own most of the media, and the Internet is riddled with Russian disinformation.
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There is a spike in most of Europe (particularly Spain and France- but there is even a rise in Germany)
It would be easy to keep numbers down by keeping the economy locked down but that has other huge ramifications ( just wait and see)
The trouble will be if the increased numbers start affecting vulnerable people and increase hospital rates.
At the moment in Countries with big second spikes , these are mainly restricted yo younger people.
 
Without undermining the concerns about national spikes (and there are more than enough threads for those concerns), it will be localised spikes that will have an impact on games. There was a point where infection rates in Oxford were pretty high, but that appears to have settled down a bit now.
 
Scotchegg said:
Without undermining the concerns about national spikes (and there are more than enough threads for those concerns), it will be localised spikes that will have an impact on games. There was a point where infection rates in Oxford were pretty high, but that appears to have settled down a bit now.
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But not everyone who comes to games lives in Oxford or even Oxfordshire, by any means. So while if there is a spike in Oxford then I'd have thought the games will revert to behind closed doors, if there is a more generalised national spike then surely the same will apply? Unless the club is going to look at the local rates for the postcode of every supporter (or bubble of supporters), and I can't see that happening.
 
ZeroTheHero said:
As someone who goes on his own, I'd *like* to say this is complete codswallop. Unfortunately though I can see the logic that allowing the largest 'bubbles' in will (never mind the money) allow the most people to see the games.

Bum.
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I’m in the same boat as you, and also tend to agree that makes more sense. Not reason why they can’t rotate the criteria from game to game though.
 
makv said:
I’m in the same boat as you, and also tend to agree that makes more sense. Not reason why they can’t rotate the criteria from game to game though.
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Same situation here as well - and I just admit the same thought had crossed my mind that, bigger bubbles mean more $$$ to the club so could potentially get prioritisation...
 
Why does it matter that someone who pays more should get more priority people choose what they can afford to pay doesn’t make them any less of a fan just because they couldn’t afford the more expensive tickets the club should try and make it as fair as they can for people to attend matches and I’m sure they will try there best
 
OUFC94 said:
This is going to be quite controversial, but I personally think the households who have spent the most on their season tickets should get priority to the first games back. It makes no sense to allow one person who’s bought a ticket in the cheapest area and spent £20 per game for example vs a family of four (or more) in the premium seats who have spent over £100 per game.
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As a single ST holder in the North Stand I find it difficult to logically argue with this.


If the argument goes that ST holders should be let in first as they have made a financial commitment then the above is a logical extension of that if not all ST holders are allowed in.

Would be frustrating but we are looking at returning far sooner than I expected. Swings and roundabouts.
 
oufc1991 said:
Why does it matter that someone who pays more should get more priority people choose what they can afford to pay doesn’t make them any less of a fan just because they couldn’t afford the more expensive tickets the club should try and make it as fair as they can for people to attend matches and I’m sure they will try there best
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Would you say that someone who doesn't have an ST should get priority over someone who does?

It's the same thing for me.
 
m said:
Would you say that someone who doesn't have an ST should get priority over someone who does?

It's the same thing for me.
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What I’m saying is a person or people who have a ST should be allowed in first BUT the cost of said ST shouldn’t make a difference to who get priorities because not everyone can afford the most expensive ST but all ST holders paid not knowing if or when they would be allowed to the games
 
oufc1991 said:
Why does it matter that someone who pays more should get more priority people choose what they can afford to pay doesn’t make them any less of a fan just because they couldn’t afford the more expensive tickets the club should try and make it as fair as they can for people to attend matches and I’m sure they will try there best
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Because it's a business at the end of the day, and if people are spending more money and putting more money into the business, they get priority. I buy a season ticket on my own but I appreciate that families who spend 4x as much as what I do have more right to be there than I do. And like someone else said, logistically it makes sense because 4 people can sit in that "bubble" compared to my one man bubble.

I'd always choose to go first if I bought my ST on the understanding that I may not attend games for quite a while, and they need to do whats best for them.
 
OUFC94 said:
Because it's a business at the end of the day, and if people are spending more money and putting more money into the business, they get priority. I buy a season ticket on my own but I appreciate that families who spend 4x as much as what I do have more right to be there than I do. And like someone else said, logistically it makes sense because 4 people can sit in that "bubble" compared to my one man bubble.

I'd always choose to go first if I bought my ST on the understanding that I may not attend games for quite a while, and they need to do whats best for them.
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Is that not like saying just for example my neighbour has a Ferrari and I have a SEAT because his car cost more it should take priority over parking and I will just park where ever
 
oufc1991 said:
What I’m saying is a person or people who have a ST should be allowed in first BUT the cost of said ST shouldn’t make a difference to who get priorities because not everyone can afford the most expensive ST but all ST holders paid not knowing if or when they would be allowed to the games
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I don't see the logic in that.

What about the fan who can't afford the initial outlay of an ST but may end up paying more by attending more games throughout the season?

If the argument is that the ST holder has made a commitment, then a family of four in the SSU have made a bigger commitment than a single ST holder in the East Stand?
 
If the club can fit in 1000 single tickets or 900 families of four (3600 supporters) which do you think would be better for the club?
 
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